5 Oz. of Pain Exclusive: Josh Barnett responds to Dana White

FiveOuncesOfPain.com contacted former UFC heavyweight champion Josh Barnett to get his reaction to comments that UFC president Dana White directed at him during a conference call this afternoon to promote UFC 75.

White was asked to respond to Barnett’s recent assertion that Randy Couture was a “paper champion” (that was the phrase the reporter used), to which White replied, “Nobody gives a shit about Josh Barnett, especially not me.”

“He cared,” Barnett responded after White’s quote was read. “He gives a shit because if he didn’t he wouldn’t say anything and he wouldn’t get so worked up about it. He only uses his coveted swear words at important moments like when he tries to get fighters pumped up or gives them pep talks.”

Five Ounces Of Pain then asked Barnett if he was still in negotiations at the time of his original comments.

“I was not negotiating with the UFC at the time of the comments but I can’t really talk about all the negotiations that I’ve been involved with and will be involved with at this point,” he answered.

When asked if he felt there was still a chance he could sign with the UFC, Barnett didn’t rule it out.

“I could always sign with the UFC,” responded Barnett. “It’s only a matter of making things work right for the both of us.”

Furthermore, Barnett doesn’t believe he burned a bridge with the UFC with the negative comments he made towards Couture.

“You don’t burn bridges with Dana,” the youngest heavyweight champion in UFC history stated. “If you can make him money, he puts you in there. If he thinks he’s going to get rich, he uses you or in some instances he has his guys that he calls his ‘boys,’ or whatever. He knows where his bread is buttered and if he sees green — it’s a go. Randy got an instant title shot coming out of retirement. You know why? Because he saw green.

“I’m not the only person to ever have issues with Dana and I’m sure — in fact I know for a fact — that there are fighters that are in the Ultimate Fighting Championship right now that have a problem with Dana White. But this is a completely different scenario. If he wants to have personal issues with fighters then there’s nothing I can do to help that guy.

“In terms of business, I make promoters money and promoters make me money and that’s what it comes down to and when it comes to calling somebody unbeatable you better make sure next time that the guy that beat him for the heavyweight title before isn’t in the same room.”

Five Ounces also took the opportunity to get Barnett’s comments about Renato Sobral’s contract not being renewed by the UFC. Barnett cornered Sobral for his fight against David Heath at UFC 74 this past Saturday. UFC president Dana White announced that Sobral’s contract has not been “renewed” and I asked Barnett that if the decision was indeed based on the extended choke applied to Heath if he felt the punishment was fair?

“I think it’s completely overblown and an overreaction. It takes two to tango. Why didn’t he release David Heath? Babalu said not a single unkind word about David Heath leading into that fight. Everything was just fine until he decided to get in Babalu’s face and call him an MF’er. He provoked the guy. This is someone that’s been fighting since the Vale Tudo days of Brazil. Maybe to sportswriters and fans it was a really ugly scenario — and you know what, if I had known he was going to do something like that I would have told him not to — but it’s not uncommon. It’s not something as a fighter — and I’ve been in this business 11 years — I have seen it more than I can count on both hands and both toes. That happens. Things happen.

“First off, if you’re going to provoke somebody then they now have a little extra incentive to come after you. That’s something you created and if the NSAC wants to fine or suspend, they’re going to make their decision. But I think it’s really ridiculous to put him to the floor and treat him like that when Dana, if he’s really hip to MMA and he’s used to follow it then he knows what’s going on, and he’s just trying to play a part in the media to make the CYA real happy at the expense of Babalu.

“Should he have done that? No, I don’t think he should have. Plus, with all the blood everywhere and the very dominating performance he put to David Heath, it made it look even worse. But it’s not just a simple matter of this guy was trying to hurt him. And you know what? People pass out all the time from refusing to tap and nobody faults them for that. It’s certainly within their own control.

“If I remember, B.J. Penn held a choke long on Jens Pulver and we don’t see him getting released from his contract?”

29 COMMENTS
  • Captain says:

    I am glad to see Josh defending Babalu because I consider him one of the more savy and level-headed fighters out there.

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  • garth says:

    I don’t know how long people are going to have to respond to the “BJ did it too” garbage. The differences are already well-documented. I’m willing to bet that if it had been some other fighter who Barnett wasn’t cornering he’d have a different take.
    And Josh? You did get beat to lose your belt. His name was Roids, and you thought he was your friend.

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  • kentyman says:

    Why didn’t you grill him on the steroids issue?

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    Barnett needs to remember that he tested positive for steroids after he beat Couture. White needs to remember that just because he “doesn’t give a shit” about somebody doesn’t mean that “nobody” gives a shit about that person.

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  • Mobb Deep says:

    I second kentyman. Why didn’t call him out on his failed test after the Couture fight?

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  • teachbug says:

    I think Barnett is a roided headed idiot, he compares what sobral did to what penn did.
    hes a fool who is looking out for his buddy.
    Penn didnt make pulver pass out, and there was no bad blood afterwards. Sobral put a mans life in danger, hes a thug, and a criminal from before already before the fight, screw him, he needed to go. take that crap to bodog!

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  • Cooter says:

    It’s not like Barnett hasn’t been beaten since defeating Couture. Mirko has beaten him 3 times and big Nog once. I’d say they would have more claim to the belt than him at this point. Just because it’s in his possession doesn’t mean he’s still the champion. If anything, HE’S the paper champ. He needs to get over himself. There’s a reason UFC hasn’t been chasing him. There are much better fighters to be signed.

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  • Smiths says:

    garth: “The differences are already well-documented.”

    No, they aren’t. It’s pretty obvious why they released Babalu, and by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That’s all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let’s say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can’t make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn’t as much as the latter. BJ was never punished in any form (he did say that he held it long on purpose, to release his frustration and angst and everything, in an interview), while Babalu was fined and fired. If there is one thing where Barnett is right, that’s his last comment. If you fire Babalu, you must at least fine BJ and make it public that they didn’t like what BJ did either. There is absolutely nothing fundamentally different between what BJ did and what Babalu did.

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  • sonzai says:

    “by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That’s all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let’s say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can’t make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn’t as much as the latter.”

    And if I do 90 in a 60 zone, wouldn’t my fine be much, MUCH higher than if I were doing 70? By your logic, if I’m doing 120 in a 60, there should be no greater punishment than if I had been doing 70. Yet the law, and society, deem there be different punishments for the two. One is just that much more dangerous for others. Should BJ have been fined? I believe so. But BJ also wan’t just arrested and had his rather unnattractive mug shot plastered up everywhere. Precedence and context (beyond disrepectful words before a fight) do count.

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  • Mike says:

    As far as fighters go Barnett is at the top of the heavy weights for a reason. He has only lost to people that are higher in the rankings. I am as big as coutyre fan as anyone but facts are facts. As far as steriod use is concerned, I would have to say that almost everyone in MMA has used at least once, even couture. If not steriods than some type of test boost or hormone. Its part of sports whether legal or not the only difference is that you can buy one at the health store.

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  • MataLeao says:

    Wow I forgot that roids are a magic drug that make you win fights. That’s so true, Barnett must suck.

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  • TAZMAN says:

    Please remember BJ let go once the ref got involved, Babalu did not…..

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  • Screwface says:

    ive seen barnett lose in pride a lot and he was never gracious in defeat, he always reached for unbelievable excuses and belittled his opponents, and we all know about prides lax steroid testing, barnett would be outclassed in the ufc esp since testing is more forceful. Once upon a time he was a decent fighter, but hes no randy. a baroni at best :p, i hope dana passes, ufc doesnt need him. not a good representitive for the sport imo

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  • bubbafat says:

    Uh, I keep hearing steroids this and steroids that. I believe( please don’t quote me, SAM maybe you can confirm or not) Barnett was stripped because of Winstrol. Not long before Tim Sylvia was stripped for the same reasons and I don’t hear anyone taking cred from Sylvia. Barnett is one of the best in the world, and if the UFC is going to make statements about them having the best fighters, they need to have Barnett, Hunt, Emelianenko, Kang, Gomi etc. Steroids haver nothing to do with this argument.

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  • kentyman says:

    “Steroids have nothing to do with this argument.”

    bubbafat, yes they do.

    First off, Winstrol IS an anabolic steroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol). But Josh popped for Boldenone, which is also an anabolic steroid. Either way, he used steroids, which probably contributed to beating Couture.

    Josh can’t belittle Randy unless he ever proved that he was better without juicing. Until that day, Josh needs to shut up.

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  • reagan says:

    Josh is an idio for acting like this..What babalu did was sickeing. And Josh isn the champ of the UFC like he claimed in another thread.. He cheted and fought on steroids and was made to give his title up for winning it legit.

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  • TheTruth says:

    Give me a break. Go find a .gif of the chokes, BJ held his choke longer, said he was going to teach Pulver a lesson…and was not punished at all.

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  • patrickgamil says:

    barnett energy size savvy likes to fight
    werdum most underated – could defeat anyone
    nogueira cant be finished best HW BJJ
    gonzaga loss to couture was do to freaky fall – choking on blood still kick coutures arm into 2
    fedor each fight reveals more potential
    tim sylvia still can put nyone to sleep and cant be KO’d
    mark hunt sames as big tim
    exception semmy schiilt body KO’ed hunt with 6’11″ 300 lb spinning back kick to gut
    arlovski / aleks – best hands

    the 3 top brazilians will expose and end lesnars career. i love brock but dana cant sheild him from

    couture

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