Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Exclusive: Josh Barnett responds to Dana White http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Thu, 24 May 2012 21:35:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: patrickgamil http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-48051 patrickgamil Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:08:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-48051 barnett energy size savvy likes to fight werdum most underated - could defeat anyone nogueira cant be finished best HW BJJ gonzaga loss to couture was do to freaky fall - choking on blood still kick coutures arm into 2 fedor each fight reveals more potential tim sylvia still can put nyone to sleep and cant be KO'd mark hunt sames as big tim exception semmy schiilt body KO'ed hunt with 6'11" 300 lb spinning back kick to gut arlovski / aleks - best hands the 3 top brazilians will expose and end lesnars career. i love brock but dana cant sheild him from couture barnett energy size savvy likes to fight
werdum most underated – could defeat anyone
nogueira cant be finished best HW BJJ
gonzaga loss to couture was do to freaky fall – choking on blood still kick coutures arm into 2
fedor each fight reveals more potential
tim sylvia still can put nyone to sleep and cant be KO’d
mark hunt sames as big tim
exception semmy schiilt body KO’ed hunt with 6’11″ 300 lb spinning back kick to gut
arlovski / aleks – best hands

the 3 top brazilians will expose and end lesnars career. i love brock but dana cant sheild him from

couture

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]]> By: FIGHTBEAT.COM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-2251 FIGHTBEAT.COM Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:28:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-2251 [...] It might be a little bit old at this point, but it’s news to me. The guys over at Five Ounces of Pain recently conducted an interview with Josh Barnett & got his retort to Dana White’s recent comments at the UFC 75 Conference Call. A small excerpt from the interview has Barnett claiming that “You don’t burn bridges with Dana,” & “If you can make him money, he puts you in there. If he thinks he’s going to get rich, he uses you or in some instances he has his guys that he calls his ‘boys,’ or whatever. He knows where his bread is buttered and if he sees green — it’s a go. Randy got an instant title shot coming out of retirement. You know why? Because he saw green”. It’s a pretty good read & you can check it out here. [...] [...] It might be a little bit old at this point, but it’s news to me. The guys over at Five Ounces of Pain recently conducted an interview with Josh Barnett & got his retort to Dana White’s recent comments at the UFC 75 Conference Call. A small excerpt from the interview has Barnett claiming that “You don’t burn bridges with Dana,” & “If you can make him money, he puts you in there. If he thinks he’s going to get rich, he uses you or in some instances he has his guys that he calls his ‘boys,’ or whatever. He knows where his bread is buttered and if he sees green — it’s a go. Randy got an instant title shot coming out of retirement. You know why? Because he saw green”. It’s a pretty good read & you can check it out here. [...]

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]]> By: The MMA Digest » Dana White has no interest in Josh Barnett http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-2052 The MMA Digest » Dana White has no interest in Josh Barnett Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:59:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-2052 [...] for them to provide a valuable service to the organization. Barnett realizes this and made note about the fact that if he is able to bring in massive revenue to the UFC, White will take him b...Indeed a rematch between Couture and Barnett could make for a great fight with a strong storyline [...] [...] for them to provide a valuable service to the organization. Barnett realizes this and made note about the fact that if he is able to bring in massive revenue to the UFC, White will take him b…Indeed a rematch between Couture and Barnett could make for a great fight with a strong storyline [...]

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]]> By: 0.8 Seconds Can Make a World of Difference? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-2018 0.8 Seconds Can Make a World of Difference? Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:58:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-2018 [...] at UFC 74 and the Penn-Pulver fight at the TUF Finale. As Barnett said during an interview with fiveouncesofpain.com, “I think it’s completely overblown and an overreaction. If I remember, B.J. Penn held a choke [...] [...] at UFC 74 and the Penn-Pulver fight at the TUF Finale. As Barnett said during an interview with fiveouncesofpain.com, “I think it’s completely overblown and an overreaction. If I remember, B.J. Penn held a choke [...]

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]]> By: Josh Barnett Responds to Dana White http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-2008 Josh Barnett Responds to Dana White Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:12:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-2008 [...] what are you waiting for? You can read the entire awesome interview by clicking here. [...] [...] what are you waiting for? You can read the entire awesome interview by clicking here. [...]

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]]> By: Josh Barnet Responds to Dana White http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-2007 Josh Barnet Responds to Dana White Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:07:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-2007 [...] what are you waiting for? You can read the entire awesome interview by clicking here. [...] [...] what are you waiting for? You can read the entire awesome interview by clicking here. [...]

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]]> By: MMA Sportcenter » Blog Archive » Barnett responde a Dana White http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1974 MMA Sportcenter » Blog Archive » Barnett responde a Dana White Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:38:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1974 [...] Josh Barnett responds to Dana White. [...] [...] Josh Barnett responds to Dana White. [...]

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]]> By: TheTruth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1972 TheTruth Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:45:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1972 Give me a break. Go find a .gif of the chokes, BJ held his choke longer, said he was going to teach Pulver a lesson...and was not punished at all. Give me a break. Go find a .gif of the chokes, BJ held his choke longer, said he was going to teach Pulver a lesson…and was not punished at all.

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]]> By: reagan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1963 reagan Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:55:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1963 Josh is an idio for acting like this..What babalu did was sickeing. And Josh isn the champ of the UFC like he claimed in another thread.. He cheted and fought on steroids and was made to give his title up for winning it legit. Josh is an idio for acting like this..What babalu did was sickeing. And Josh isn the champ of the UFC like he claimed in another thread.. He cheted and fought on steroids and was made to give his title up for winning it legit.

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]]> By: kentyman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1958 kentyman Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:38:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1958 "Steroids have nothing to do with this argument." bubbafat, yes they do. First off, Winstrol IS an anabolic steroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol). But Josh popped for Boldenone, which is also an anabolic steroid. Either way, he used steroids, which probably contributed to beating Couture. Josh can't belittle Randy unless he ever proved that he was better without juicing. Until that day, Josh needs to shut up. “Steroids have nothing to do with this argument.”

bubbafat, yes they do.

First off, Winstrol IS an anabolic steroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol). But Josh popped for Boldenone, which is also an anabolic steroid. Either way, he used steroids, which probably contributed to beating Couture.

Josh can’t belittle Randy unless he ever proved that he was better without juicing. Until that day, Josh needs to shut up.

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]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1955 bubbafat Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:55:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1955 Uh, I keep hearing steroids this and steroids that. I believe( please don't quote me, SAM maybe you can confirm or not) Barnett was stripped because of Winstrol. Not long before Tim Sylvia was stripped for the same reasons and I don't hear anyone taking cred from Sylvia. Barnett is one of the best in the world, and if the UFC is going to make statements about them having the best fighters, they need to have Barnett, Hunt, Emelianenko, Kang, Gomi etc. Steroids haver nothing to do with this argument. Uh, I keep hearing steroids this and steroids that. I believe( please don’t quote me, SAM maybe you can confirm or not) Barnett was stripped because of Winstrol. Not long before Tim Sylvia was stripped for the same reasons and I don’t hear anyone taking cred from Sylvia. Barnett is one of the best in the world, and if the UFC is going to make statements about them having the best fighters, they need to have Barnett, Hunt, Emelianenko, Kang, Gomi etc. Steroids haver nothing to do with this argument.

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]]> By: Screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1953 Screwface Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:44:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1953 ive seen barnett lose in pride a lot and he was never gracious in defeat, he always reached for unbelievable excuses and belittled his opponents, and we all know about prides lax steroid testing, barnett would be outclassed in the ufc esp since testing is more forceful. Once upon a time he was a decent fighter, but hes no randy. a baroni at best :p, i hope dana passes, ufc doesnt need him. not a good representitive for the sport imo ive seen barnett lose in pride a lot and he was never gracious in defeat, he always reached for unbelievable excuses and belittled his opponents, and we all know about prides lax steroid testing, barnett would be outclassed in the ufc esp since testing is more forceful. Once upon a time he was a decent fighter, but hes no randy. a baroni at best :p, i hope dana passes, ufc doesnt need him. not a good representitive for the sport imo

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]]> By: Josh Barnett Still in UFC’s Future? » MMA HQ - Mixed Martial Arts News and Analysis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1952 Josh Barnett Still in UFC’s Future? » MMA HQ - Mixed Martial Arts News and Analysis Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:25:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1952 [...] typical response from Dana White, if you ask me. Following the UFC 75 conference call, Sam Caplan from FightOuncesofPain.com called Josh Barnett and interviewed him to get his reaction and discuss the whole UFC situation with him. Barnett had some interested words [...] [...] typical response from Dana White, if you ask me. Following the UFC 75 conference call, Sam Caplan from FightOuncesofPain.com called Josh Barnett and interviewed him to get his reaction and discuss the whole UFC situation with him. Barnett had some interested words [...]

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]]> By: Josh Barnett Has a Reason to Wear Shoes in the Ring http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1951 Josh Barnett Has a Reason to Wear Shoes in the Ring Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:25:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1951 [...] not because of his catch wrestling background. It’s because he’s disfigured. Here he is answering questions about Renato Sobral’s choke on David Heath: “Maybe to sportswriters and fans it was a [...] [...] not because of his catch wrestling background. It’s because he’s disfigured. Here he is answering questions about Renato Sobral’s choke on David Heath: “Maybe to sportswriters and fans it was a [...]

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]]> By: TAZMAN http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1948 TAZMAN Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:25:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1948 Please remember BJ let go once the ref got involved, Babalu did not..... Please remember BJ let go once the ref got involved, Babalu did not…..

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]]> By: MataLeao http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1946 MataLeao Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:56:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1946 Wow I forgot that roids are a magic drug that make you win fights. That's so true, Barnett must suck. Wow I forgot that roids are a magic drug that make you win fights. That’s so true, Barnett must suck.

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]]> By: Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1944 Mike Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:17:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1944 As far as fighters go Barnett is at the top of the heavy weights for a reason. He has only lost to people that are higher in the rankings. I am as big as coutyre fan as anyone but facts are facts. As far as steriod use is concerned, I would have to say that almost everyone in MMA has used at least once, even couture. If not steriods than some type of test boost or hormone. Its part of sports whether legal or not the only difference is that you can buy one at the health store. As far as fighters go Barnett is at the top of the heavy weights for a reason. He has only lost to people that are higher in the rankings. I am as big as coutyre fan as anyone but facts are facts. As far as steriod use is concerned, I would have to say that almost everyone in MMA has used at least once, even couture. If not steriods than some type of test boost or hormone. Its part of sports whether legal or not the only difference is that you can buy one at the health store.

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]]> By: FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1937 FightOpinion.com - Your Global Connection to the Fight Industry. Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1937 [...] Barnett responds to Dana White’s latest comments. He also responded in audio form on Fight Network Radio [...] [...] Barnett responds to Dana White’s latest comments. He also responded in audio form on Fight Network Radio [...]

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]]> By: sonzai http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1936 sonzai Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:17:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1936 "by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That’s all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let’s say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can’t make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn’t as much as the latter." And if I do 90 in a 60 zone, wouldn't my fine be much, MUCH higher than if I were doing 70? By your logic, if I'm doing 120 in a 60, there should be no greater punishment than if I had been doing 70. Yet the law, and society, deem there be different punishments for the two. One is just that much more dangerous for others. Should BJ have been fined? I believe so. But BJ also wan't just arrested and had his rather unnattractive mug shot plastered up everywhere. Precedence and context (beyond disrepectful words before a fight) do count. “by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That’s all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let’s say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can’t make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn’t as much as the latter.”

And if I do 90 in a 60 zone, wouldn’t my fine be much, MUCH higher than if I were doing 70? By your logic, if I’m doing 120 in a 60, there should be no greater punishment than if I had been doing 70. Yet the law, and society, deem there be different punishments for the two. One is just that much more dangerous for others. Should BJ have been fined? I believe so. But BJ also wan’t just arrested and had his rather unnattractive mug shot plastered up everywhere. Precedence and context (beyond disrepectful words before a fight) do count.

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]]> By: Smiths http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/comment-page-1/#comment-1935 Smiths Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:59:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/08/30/fiveouncesofpaincom-exclusive-josh-barnett-responds-to-dana-white/#comment-1935 garth: "The differences are already well-documented." No, they aren't. It's pretty obvious why they released Babalu, and by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That's all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let's say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can't make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn't as much as the latter. BJ was never punished in any form (he did say that he held it long on purpose, to release his frustration and angst and everything, in an interview), while Babalu was fined and fired. If there is one thing where Barnett is right, that's his last comment. If you fire Babalu, you must at least fine BJ and make it public that they didn't like what BJ did either. There is absolutely nothing fundamentally different between what BJ did and what Babalu did. garth: “The differences are already well-documented.”

No, they aren’t. It’s pretty obvious why they released Babalu, and by that standards BJ is absolutely guilty as hell. It just belongs in the same category, which I find it hard to believe that anyone dares to deny. That’s all that should matter. The degree of punishment might differ, but a violation is a violation. Let’s say the speed-limit is 60. Someone goes at 70, and someone else goes at 90. They are both GUILTY. You can’t make the former innocent just because the degree of violation isn’t as much as the latter. BJ was never punished in any form (he did say that he held it long on purpose, to release his frustration and angst and everything, in an interview), while Babalu was fined and fired. If there is one thing where Barnett is right, that’s his last comment. If you fire Babalu, you must at least fine BJ and make it public that they didn’t like what BJ did either. There is absolutely nothing fundamentally different between what BJ did and what Babalu did.

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