Comments on: HDNet Fights conference call notes with Mark Cuban and Guy Mezger http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Thu, 24 May 2012 21:35:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Bryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-8458 Bryan Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:27:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-8458 I'd like to see HDNet work with the Revolution Fight League out of Louisville, KY. A top notch MMA promotions company. I’d like to see HDNet work with the Revolution Fight League out of Louisville, KY. A top notch MMA promotions company.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2316 Tanner Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:31:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2316 Sam - I would say he's fairly credible as well. lol. I'd also like to hear what Sean says about it. Junkie said he was going to be submitting a blog or a column in the near future that could contain some information. I'd also like to see sean at 185, I think that in todays MMA game that if you're not cutting weight to get to 205 you're probably not big enough. It seems like that for most divisions. 185 is natural 205 guys cutting down. 170 seems like natural 180-185 gives are cutting to 170 etc. with a few exceptions. I think that the move to 185 will probably be best for him. Sam – I would say he’s fairly credible as well. lol. I’d also like to hear what Sean says about it. Junkie said he was going to be submitting a blog or a column in the near future that could contain some information. I’d also like to see sean at 185, I think that in todays MMA game that if you’re not cutting weight to get to 205 you’re probably not big enough. It seems like that for most divisions. 185 is natural 205 guys cutting down. 170 seems like natural 180-185 gives are cutting to 170 etc. with a few exceptions. I think that the move to 185 will probably be best for him.

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]]> By: el feo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2312 el feo Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:20:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2312 well no need to defend Tim Sylvia anymore is there Sam? I wonder if he'd pull that with Ben Rothwell in a similar hypothetical situation in the future. If and when Ben escapes from Ifl. No knock on IFL,I dig it but Ben's ready for top 10 fights. I expect Brandon Vera to handle biz and win me some money in the process. well no need to defend Tim Sylvia anymore is there Sam? I wonder if he’d pull that with Ben Rothwell in a similar hypothetical situation in the future.
If and when Ben escapes from Ifl. No knock on IFL,I dig it but Ben’s ready for top 10 fights.
I expect Brandon Vera to handle biz and win me some money in the process.

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]]> By: Captain7 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2308 Captain7 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:06:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2308 There is always the possibility that because Salmon is known by so many ufcjunkie fans that the UFC will give him another chance. Or it could be that he has 3 wins and only one lost since he stopped fighting for the UFC. There is always the possibility that because Salmon is known by so many ufcjunkie fans that the UFC will give him another chance. Or it could be that he has 3 wins and only one lost since he stopped fighting for the UFC.

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]]> By: Mark Cuban’s baby steps toward MMA respect « Cage Buzz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2306 Mark Cuban’s baby steps toward MMA respect « Cage Buzz Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:23:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2306 [...] those with other organizations such as the Art of War and Richard Steele’s Cage Promotions. (Five Ounces of Pain has more of the [...] [...] those with other organizations such as the Art of War and Richard Steele’s Cage Promotions. (Five Ounces of Pain has more of the [...]

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]]> By: Mika http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2305 Mika Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:11:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2305 All I know is that Comcast doesn't carry HDNet yet... damn you Comcast! All I know is that Comcast doesn’t carry HDNet yet… damn you Comcast!

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2303 Sam Caplan Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:57:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2303 Tanner, I read that post a little earlier. Obviously, Matt is a very credible source in regard to his brother's career. That being said, I'd be very surprised if the UFC allowed a contracted fighter to appear on HDNet for Cuban. As I said earlier, the UFC's policy for when a fighter on leave loses outside of the company, he is usually released from his contract. Perhaps they are making exceptions in the case of Sean? I'm eager to hear his comments so he can set the record straight. Tanner, I read that post a little earlier.

Obviously, Matt is a very credible source in regard to his brother’s career. That being said, I’d be very surprised if the UFC allowed a contracted fighter to appear on HDNet for Cuban.

As I said earlier, the UFC’s policy for when a fighter on leave loses outside of the company, he is usually released from his contract. Perhaps they are making exceptions in the case of Sean?

I’m eager to hear his comments so he can set the record straight.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2302 Tanner Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:51:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2302 I posted the same on Junkies site and Matt Salmon posted saying that Sean wasn't cut. you can check it out in the comments: http://mmajunkie.com/2007/09/12/mark-cuban-discusses-launch-of-hdnet-fights/#comments I posted the same on Junkies site and Matt Salmon posted saying that Sean wasn’t cut. you can check it out in the comments:

http://mmajunkie.com/2007/09/12/mark-cuban-discusses-launch-of-hdnet-fights/#comments

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]]> By: Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Cuban’s thing is good for the sport, meh for the fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2300 Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Cuban’s thing is good for the sport, meh for the fan Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:00:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2300 [...] offering, Cuban’s foray into MMA is good for the sport. Past his own show on October 14th, he’s planning on featuring 24 full fledged MMA events on his HDNet Fight Night program through 2008. Some of the names he mentioned were the IFO (Steele Cage), Art of War, and even the [...] [...] offering, Cuban’s foray into MMA is good for the sport. Past his own show on October 14th, he’s planning on featuring 24 full fledged MMA events on his HDNet Fight Night program through 2008. Some of the names he mentioned were the IFO (Steele Cage), Art of War, and even the [...]

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]]> By: Jason http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2297 Jason Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:07:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2297 I'm interested to see how this will play out. In the short term I think they will struggle, even if they do sign Fedor. If Fedor truly has a fighters mentality then yes money is important, but most fighters I know want to prove their the best and that won't happen when a stable of the best heavyweights are in the UFC. If Cuban is able to snag a few fighters away from the UFC when contracts come up for negotiations he may have a chance;however I think this will be the opportunity that will force Dana to provide his fighters more lucrative contracts in order to keep the top talent. Basically a win win for all fighters, especially the lower card or B-level fighters. I’m interested to see how this will play out. In the short term I think they will struggle, even if they do sign Fedor. If Fedor truly has a fighters mentality then yes money is important, but most fighters I know want to prove their the best and that won’t happen when a stable of the best heavyweights are in the UFC. If Cuban is able to snag a few fighters away from the UFC when contracts come up for negotiations he may have a chance;however I think this will be the opportunity that will force Dana to provide his fighters more lucrative contracts in order to keep the top talent. Basically a win win for all fighters, especially the lower card or B-level fighters.

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]]> By: UFCDaily.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2296 UFCDaily.com Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:31:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2296 Also I thought I'd add that it seems Salmon first fight for HDNet will be at 185 lbs. whereas his UFC fights all took place at 205. I don't know if his fight at Fight Festival is 185, 205, or somewhere in the middle. Also I thought I’d add that it seems Salmon first fight for HDNet will be at 185 lbs. whereas his UFC fights all took place at 205. I don’t know if his fight at Fight Festival is 185, 205, or somewhere in the middle.

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]]> By: UFCDaily.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2295 UFCDaily.com Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:45:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2295 Looking forward to the interview Sam. I know that's the normal policy but I haven't heard anything from Junkie saying that (whether they have info on his contract I don't know). He may very well have been let go to appear on something like this but I don't know what kind of fights are and aren't allowed when on leave from the UFC. Is his fight going to be televised? I assume (like the UFC) they won't broadcast every fight. Looking forward to the interview Sam. I know that’s the normal policy but I haven’t heard anything from Junkie saying that (whether they have info on his contract I don’t know). He may very well have been let go to appear on something like this but I don’t know what kind of fights are and aren’t allowed when on leave from the UFC.

Is his fight going to be televised? I assume (like the UFC) they won’t broadcast every fight.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2294 Tanner Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:37:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2294 Thanks for the insight Sam. I wasn't really a huge fan of Salmon as he's the typical wrestler turned MMA fighter. I'm a jiu jitsu guy and it just tickles me whenever wrestlers get caught in Guillotines from a take down but thats just me. I did like Salmon's articles on UFCJunkie tho. I hope he does do well in his career but that could be a sad note for him. Thanks for the insight Sam. I wasn’t really a huge fan of Salmon as he’s the typical wrestler turned MMA fighter. I’m a jiu jitsu guy and it just tickles me whenever wrestlers get caught in Guillotines from a take down but thats just me. I did like Salmon’s articles on UFCJunkie tho. I hope he does do well in his career but that could be a sad note for him.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2292 Sam Caplan Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:06:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2292 Guys: The UFC has made no official announcement but I can tell you that it's company policy that if you lose outside of your contract that you are released from your contract. I don't think the UFC would allow Salmon to appear on such a high-profile show that will be televised if he was still under contract to Zuffa. But that's purely conjecture on my part and based on no inside info. I'd look into it for you guys but I'm working on a fairly explosive interview right now that I am trying to get finished up. Guys:

The UFC has made no official announcement but I can tell you that it’s company policy that if you lose outside of your contract that you are released from your contract.

I don’t think the UFC would allow Salmon to appear on such a high-profile show that will be televised if he was still under contract to Zuffa. But that’s purely conjecture on my part and based on no inside info. I’d look into it for you guys but I’m working on a fairly explosive interview right now that I am trying to get finished up.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2291 Tanner Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:02:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2291 And that was how I understood it too. I'm just thinking that there may be serious implication of asking for a leave of your contract and then dropping a fight outside the UFC. Thanks for the input. And that was how I understood it too. I’m just thinking that there may be serious implication of asking for a leave of your contract and then dropping a fight outside the UFC. Thanks for the input.

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]]> By: UFCDaily.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2290 UFCDaily.com Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:57:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2290 I don't know if the lone loss (combined with 3 wins) will cut him from his UFC contract but from what I know he is basically on indefinite leave from the UFC and is free to fight wherever he chooses. Sam might have more but those are the basics as I understand them. I don’t know if the lone loss (combined with 3 wins) will cut him from his UFC contract but from what I know he is basically on indefinite leave from the UFC and is free to fight wherever he chooses. Sam might have more but those are the basics as I understand them.

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]]> By: UFCDaily.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2289 UFCDaily.com Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:56:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2289 I think the IFL is a perfect fit for this, especially if they would add more teams to increase the frequency of events. It is a 10 fight card from what I hear. Also, their deals with fighters are said to not be exclusive (one fight or not) so a lot of fighters who have existing contracts that allow them to fight for other promotions might find this as a good place for fights. I think they are doing this right by not taking on the UFC directly. I am looking forward to their first card I just wish the channel wasn't a premium channel though. I think the IFL is a perfect fit for this, especially if they would add more teams to increase the frequency of events.

It is a 10 fight card from what I hear.

Also, their deals with fighters are said to not be exclusive (one fight or not) so a lot of fighters who have existing contracts that allow them to fight for other promotions might find this as a good place for fights.

I think they are doing this right by not taking on the UFC directly. I am looking forward to their first card I just wish the channel wasn’t a premium channel though.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/comment-page-1/#comment-2288 Tanner Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:55:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/12/hdnet-fights-conference-call-notes-with-mark-cuban-and-guy-mezger/#comment-2288 I'm guessing because Sean Salmon lost to Travis Wiuff at the IFO event recently that he was cut from his UFC contract. I thought maybe Sam would be able to shed some light on this situation through his partnership with MMAJunkie, One of Salmon's sponsors while he was in the UFC. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I’m guessing because Sean Salmon lost to Travis Wiuff at the IFO event recently that he was cut from his UFC contract. I thought maybe Sam would be able to shed some light on this situation through his partnership with MMAJunkie, One of Salmon’s sponsors while he was in the UFC. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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