Comments on: New issue of FIGHT! hitting the newsstands & request for help with my next article http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:37:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Brent http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2639 Brent Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:49:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2639 "This gave Dana White and the Fertittas the prototype model of what a properly managed and marketed promotion could become." Haha, ok - except that that it was run by a Japanese crime family that eventually bankrupted the entire organization after losing the Fuji TV deal because of in-fighting with another Yakuza clan. Thanks for the model of proper management and marketing, Pride! “This gave Dana White and the Fertittas the prototype model of what a properly managed and marketed promotion could become.”

Haha, ok – except that that it was run by a Japanese crime family that eventually bankrupted the entire organization after losing the Fuji TV deal because of in-fighting with another Yakuza clan.

Thanks for the model of proper management and marketing, Pride!

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]]> By: jaydog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2637 jaydog Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:16:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2637 Pride Grand Prix 2003. When Dana brought Chuck over to Japan the reality was cemented: there were two big time fight promotions and the race was on to see who would grow the fastest and amass the biggest stable of world class fighters. Chuck's loss delayed the ballyhooed showdown with Wanderlei Silva, but it simultaneously boosted the reputation of Pride as a destination for the best of the best. I think the next three years were the best for Pride in terms of productions and talent. Pride Grand Prix 2003. When Dana brought Chuck over to Japan the reality was cemented: there were two big time fight promotions and the race was on to see who would grow the fastest and amass the biggest stable of world class fighters. Chuck’s loss delayed the ballyhooed showdown with Wanderlei Silva, but it simultaneously boosted the reputation of Pride as a destination for the best of the best. I think the next three years were the best for Pride in terms of productions and talent.

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]]> By: Forever27 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2630 Forever27 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:45:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2630 The debut of Pride Fighting Championships in 1997 was a huge turning point in mixed martial arts. This gave Dana White and the Fertittas the prototype model of what a properly managed and marketed promotion could become. They hadn't yet purchased the UFC, but I am sure it helped add to Dana's vision for the UFC. The debut of Pride Fighting Championships in 1997 was a huge turning point in mixed martial arts. This gave Dana White and the Fertittas the prototype model of what a properly managed and marketed promotion could become. They hadn’t yet purchased the UFC, but I am sure it helped add to Dana’s vision for the UFC.

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]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2617 Accomando Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:27:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2617 “human cockfighting” To add to this point. Kieth "the giant killer" Hackneys repeated strikes to the balls of Jo Son at UFC 2. Solidified the thought of MMA as "human cockfighting" for the political structure of the US. Which eventually caused it to be banned everwhere for a while and why it is still banned in many places today. “human cockfighting”

To add to this point.

Kieth “the giant killer” Hackneys repeated strikes to the balls of Jo Son at UFC 2.

Solidified the thought of MMA as “human cockfighting” for the political structure of the US. Which eventually caused it to be banned everwhere for a while and why it is still banned in many places today.

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]]> By: saku http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2614 saku Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:18:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2614 As for the what ifs...what if sakuraba fought at his real wieight 185, and only fought 185 guys, he'd be more of legend than he already is...he could have even dropped down to 170. That not far from his fight weight, he came in at 175 fo rhis fight with royce and igor. Sakuraba at 170 is a scary scary thing. As for the what ifs…what if sakuraba fought at his real wieight 185, and only fought 185 guys, he’d be more of legend than he already is…he could have even dropped down to 170. That not far from his fight weight, he came in at 175 fo rhis fight with royce and igor. Sakuraba at 170 is a scary scary thing.

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]]> By: saku http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2613 saku Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:14:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2613 Sakuraba vs. the gracies. Showed that not only were hte gracies beatable, but he beat them at their own game. Submitted Royler and Renzo. And in my favorite fight of all time Sakuraba beat Royce for a 90 minute battle. Almost submitting him with a kneebar in round 1 just before the bell rang. Sakuraba vs. the gracies. Showed that not only were hte gracies beatable, but he beat them at their own game. Submitted Royler and Renzo. And in my favorite fight of all time Sakuraba beat Royce for a 90 minute battle. Almost submitting him with a kneebar in round 1 just before the bell rang.

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]]> By: stingrza http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2612 stingrza Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:58:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2612 This is fun. Now I'm just flooding. What if Enson Inoue hadn't gotten injured at UFC 13? This is fun. Now I’m just flooding.

What if Enson Inoue hadn’t gotten injured at UFC 13?

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]]> By: stingrza http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2610 stingrza Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:47:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2610 Another turning point which you almost certainly have covered: Inoki vs. Ali. Another turning point which you almost certainly have covered: Inoki vs. Ali.

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]]> By: stingrza http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2609 stingrza Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:46:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2609 Sam- Great articles in Fight! I enjoyed them in each of the five issues I inexplicably recieved in the mail. I especially enjoyed your article on Team Takedown. It's a fascinating concept, one that I think will work extremely well for the athletes involved. I'm not sure how well it will turn out financially for the investors, but that's a whole different issue. I had the privelege to train with Eric Bradley briefly during his short stay in LA, and I can very confidently say that his talent level is matched only by his humility. I hope those guys all do well. As for your question, I have to think that John McCain's "human cockfighting" comments would have to register somewhere. Though they initially cast the sport in an extremely negative light, they are ultimately responsible for the regulation of the sport in the US, allowing it to become what it has today. In keeping with the "what if" theme that you brought up, I keep asking myself, "What if Mark Kerr hadn't turned into a trainwreck." I'm sure there are more applicable "what ifs" as it pertains to such a grand line of inquiry, but when I think of guys who could have had the world, Kerr is on top of the list. Sam- Great articles in Fight! I enjoyed them in each of the five issues I inexplicably recieved in the mail. I especially enjoyed your article on Team Takedown. It’s a fascinating concept, one that I think will work extremely well for the athletes involved. I’m not sure how well it will turn out financially for the investors, but that’s a whole different issue. I had the privelege to train with Eric Bradley briefly during his short stay in LA, and I can very confidently say that his talent level is matched only by his humility. I hope those guys all do well.

As for your question, I have to think that John McCain’s “human cockfighting” comments would have to register somewhere. Though they initially cast the sport in an extremely negative light, they are ultimately responsible for the regulation of the sport in the US, allowing it to become what it has today.

In keeping with the “what if” theme that you brought up, I keep asking myself, “What if Mark Kerr hadn’t turned into a trainwreck.” I’m sure there are more applicable “what ifs” as it pertains to such a grand line of inquiry, but when I think of guys who could have had the world, Kerr is on top of the list.

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]]> By: Jesse Holland http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/comment-page-1/#comment-2608 Jesse Holland Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:26:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/21/new-issue-of-fight-hitting-the-newsstands-request-for-help-with-my-next-article/#comment-2608 I think these are worthy of consideration... http://ufcmania.com/2007/07/25/three-ufc-fights-that-almost-changed-the-world-of-mma/ I think these are worthy of consideration…

http://ufcmania.com/2007/07/25/three-ufc-fights-that-almost-changed-the-world-of-mma/

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