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	<title>Comments on: Chuck Liddell&#8217;s trainer, John Hackleman, calls me a moron and more fun with audio</title>
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		<title>By: Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mr Sunshine is &#8216;aight with me</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/27/john-hackleman-calls-me-a-moron-and-more-fun-with-audio/comment-page-1/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mr Sunshine is &#8216;aight with me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Sam Caplan ripping on Chuck Liddell&#8217;s performance and played it back for John Hackelman. Hijinx ensued. So in general I&#8217;m happy that we&#8217;ve got a guy like Steve who has good access through [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Sam Caplan ripping on Chuck Liddell&#8217;s performance and played it back for John Hackelman. Hijinx ensued. So in general I&#8217;m happy that we&#8217;ve got a guy like Steve who has good access through [...]
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		<title>By: skatanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>skatanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Chuck definitely didn&#039;t check the leg kicks like he should have, but that wasn&#039;t the only thing wrong with his game plan. I agree with what a lot of people have said about Chuck, that he was too scared of getting knocked out, it&#039;s good to be cautious but he overdid it. That was late in the fight, whereas early he was doing well and maybe should have gone all out at least 2 seconds at a time- some hard flurries could have gotten Chuck the win, but he didn&#039;t seem focused and I don&#039;t know how much Hackleman is to blame, really. Chuck had everything he needed to win, sure he could have had more, and I was initially inclined to blame Hackleman at least partially, but now I see the Liddell vs. Jardine fight as proof that a fighter&#039;s mentality going into a fight will greatly effect the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Chuck definitely didn&#8217;t check the leg kicks like he should have, but that wasn&#8217;t the only thing wrong with his game plan. I agree with what a lot of people have said about Chuck, that he was too scared of getting knocked out, it&#8217;s good to be cautious but he overdid it. That was late in the fight, whereas early he was doing well and maybe should have gone all out at least 2 seconds at a time- some hard flurries could have gotten Chuck the win, but he didn&#8217;t seem focused and I don&#8217;t know how much Hackleman is to blame, really. Chuck had everything he needed to win, sure he could have had more, and I was initially inclined to blame Hackleman at least partially, but now I see the Liddell vs. Jardine fight as proof that a fighter&#8217;s mentality going into a fight will greatly effect the outcome.
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		<title>By: UFC Results</title>
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		<dc:creator>UFC Results</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Chuck could have had a better game plan going in, but I also agree with Hackleman that the kicks were not the make or break.   In the fight that I saw (we all see them differently) the scoring was very close.  It was Chuck not comitting to his punches after he had Jardine stunned or hurt which hurt Chuck most.  I think Liddell was hesitent after his KO loss to Rampage.  If this was any of Chucks 5 or 6 fights before Jardine he would have finished him in the 1st when he had Jardine moving backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Chuck could have had a better game plan going in, but I also agree with Hackleman that the kicks were not the make or break.   In the fight that I saw (we all see them differently) the scoring was very close.  It was Chuck not comitting to his punches after he had Jardine stunned or hurt which hurt Chuck most.  I think Liddell was hesitent after his KO loss to Rampage.  If this was any of Chucks 5 or 6 fights before Jardine he would have finished him in the 1st when he had Jardine moving backwards.
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - good luck - I hope somebody films and posts the fights - I want to see how everyone is progressing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; good luck &#8211; I hope somebody films and posts the fights &#8211; I want to see how everyone is progressing&#8230;
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way. I don&#039;t think I could hang in a USKBA-sanctioned tourney at this point. I&#039;d be one and done. One minute and done, at that. 

I was referring to the Nov. 17 Smoker that Brad supposedly is having at the Jersey school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way. I don&#8217;t think I could hang in a USKBA-sanctioned tourney at this point. I&#8217;d be one and done. One minute and done, at that. </p>
<p>I was referring to the Nov. 17 Smoker that Brad supposedly is having at the Jersey school.
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pitmaster calling you a moron = Sam Caplan is an official MMA fixture.

&quot;You&#039;ve come a long way baby.&quot;

What show will you be fighting at Sam? USKBA sanctioned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pitmaster calling you a moron = Sam Caplan is an official MMA fixture.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ve come a long way baby.&#8221;</p>
<p>What show will you be fighting at Sam? USKBA sanctioned?
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Matt, I agree with you 100%. Even the part about my delivery.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I agree with you 100%. Even the part about my delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Boone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate when people pull rank like that. It&#039;s a cop-out of a defense. You simply pointed out, as a journalist (which is your job) your opinion of the fight and broke down specifically why you felt he lost - ALSO your job. I&#039;ll admit you came off a bit ....I don&#039;t even know the word, but it didn&#039;t come off good. You went overboard in explaining it I guess is the best way to sum it up. Almost as if you could have done better - at least in that one regard (defending leg kicks). Regardless, when all they can say is &quot;get in there and see if you can do any better&quot; - that&#039;s horse shit. Bisping did it recently to a writer at a post-presser too. How dare we even come up with unofficial rankings if that&#039;s the case. We&#039;ve never fought everyone in every weight class to know first-hand who ranks where and why. How dare we have an opinion! How dare we express it! They fight for a living, we analyze fights for a living. Seems like simple math to me. I would always love watching Larry Merchant out-wit George Foreman on HBO commentary when Foreman could only fall back on &quot;you don&#039;t know Larry, you&#039;ve never been in there.&quot; Just my opinion, I hope I&#039;m entitled to it, lately I&#039;m not so sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate when people pull rank like that. It&#8217;s a cop-out of a defense. You simply pointed out, as a journalist (which is your job) your opinion of the fight and broke down specifically why you felt he lost &#8211; ALSO your job. I&#8217;ll admit you came off a bit &#8230;.I don&#8217;t even know the word, but it didn&#8217;t come off good. You went overboard in explaining it I guess is the best way to sum it up. Almost as if you could have done better &#8211; at least in that one regard (defending leg kicks). Regardless, when all they can say is &#8220;get in there and see if you can do any better&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s horse shit. Bisping did it recently to a writer at a post-presser too. How dare we even come up with unofficial rankings if that&#8217;s the case. We&#8217;ve never fought everyone in every weight class to know first-hand who ranks where and why. How dare we have an opinion! How dare we express it! They fight for a living, we analyze fights for a living. Seems like simple math to me. I would always love watching Larry Merchant out-wit George Foreman on HBO commentary when Foreman could only fall back on &#8220;you don&#8217;t know Larry, you&#8217;ve never been in there.&#8221; Just my opinion, I hope I&#8217;m entitled to it, lately I&#8217;m not so sure.
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		<title>By: Billy Gamble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam your making friends wherver you go. Kettlebells? We use propane tanks down here in Texas son. It keeps you from dropping the tank on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam your making friends wherver you go. Kettlebells? We use propane tanks down here in Texas son. It keeps you from dropping the tank on the ground.
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		<title>By: SpiderSilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiderSilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m just giving you crap. I enjoy your blog &amp; your articles in Fight Mag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m just giving you crap. I enjoy your blog &amp; your articles in Fight Mag.
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