Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain’s Pound-for-Pound Top 10 and New Rankings Section http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Pramit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2958 Pramit Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:30:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2958 Here's my ballot, as promised, with some explanation as well: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/mma/blog/2007/09/mma_top_10.html Here’s my ballot, as promised, with some explanation as well:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/mma/blog/2007/09/mma_top_10.html

]]> By: hbdale309 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2956 hbdale309 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:00:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2956 Who has Kid Yamamoto beaten to deserve to be in your top 10 pound for pound? Also, his last fight was awful: he squeaked out a UD against a one dimensional mma rookie. Take a look at his last few opponents; people seriously need to get off of this guy's jock. Who has Kid Yamamoto beaten to deserve to be in your top 10 pound for pound? Also, his last fight was awful: he squeaked out a UD against a one dimensional mma rookie. Take a look at his last few opponents; people seriously need to get off of this guy’s jock.

]]> By: Screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2955 Screwface Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:51:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2955 ohh yeah and what about urijah faber? hes pound for pound hands down best in his weight class. ohh yeah and what about urijah faber? hes pound for pound hands down best in his weight class.

]]> By: Screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2954 Screwface Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:50:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2954 i can agree with all except filho, yamamato, and calvincanti. Yes they are good fighters but having a few good wins recently shouldnt sway ur decison to call them pound for pound top ranked. if thats the case then throw mighty mo and roger huerta in there too. not that i agree with that but essentially what ur doing when u add those 3. keep sleepin on soukodjou, 1 of these days ull be a believer ;) i can agree with all except filho, yamamato, and calvincanti. Yes they are good fighters but having a few good wins recently shouldnt sway ur decison to call them pound for pound top ranked. if thats the case then throw mighty mo and roger huerta in there too. not that i agree with that but essentially what ur doing when u add those 3. keep sleepin on soukodjou, 1 of these days ull be a believer ;)

]]> By: garth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2934 garth Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:52:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2934 I love applying activity to the rankings... this is one of the few sports where someone can do nothing and be considered the greatest ever. I feel it's a huge mistake, has been a huge mistake, on both the UFC's and Team Fedor's part to leave him idle this long. I know he's a freak of nature, but when he runs into hug'n'destroy it's going to be trouble. Where's the "Loyal 5oz Commenters" ranking section, Sam?! I love applying activity to the rankings… this is one of the few sports where someone can do nothing and be considered the greatest ever. I feel it’s a huge mistake, has been a huge mistake, on both the UFC’s and Team Fedor’s part to leave him idle this long. I know he’s a freak of nature, but when he runs into hug’n'destroy it’s going to be trouble.
Where’s the “Loyal 5oz Commenters” ranking section, Sam?!

]]> By: demonianray http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2932 demonianray Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:48:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2932 I respect ur opinion but ur rankings suck especially the LHW ranks. I dont think rankings should be considered on past history just recent, cause that's why they're called rankings, if it were for past history, Royce Gracie would be no.1 in all of them. Thats'why all time greats rankings should exist. Ranks should be just recent accomplishments, like putting Randy no.1 i agree with that...not entirely but i agree Fedor is not no.1 And i agree with Jeremy, Koscheck and Diego not in the WW ranks ?? thats crazy, MATT SERRA #6!!??? THE GUY BEAT THE NO.1 GUY AND THE CHAMP he deserves the top spot, he may not be the best WW technically, but he showed why in april. I respect ur opinion but ur rankings suck especially the LHW ranks. I dont think rankings should be considered on past history just recent, cause that’s why they’re called rankings, if it were for past history, Royce Gracie would be no.1 in all of them. Thats’why all time greats rankings should exist. Ranks should be just recent accomplishments, like putting Randy no.1 i agree with that…not entirely but i agree Fedor is not no.1 And i agree with Jeremy, Koscheck and Diego not in the WW ranks ?? thats crazy, MATT SERRA #6!!??? THE GUY BEAT THE NO.1 GUY AND THE CHAMP he deserves the top spot, he may not be the best WW technically, but he showed why in april.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2931 Evan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:28:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2931 Pramit But he did fight Hunt and won. Can't take that away from him. Pramit

But he did fight Hunt and won. Can’t take that away from him.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2927 Evan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:42:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2927 Can't say I can argue strongly at any point on the list. It’s a bit shocking seeing Randy number one but why shouldn't he be? What he has done all things considered is simply amazing. And I think the timing is right to move Fedor. If he is chosing Sambo over MMA right now then the slotting fits. If he doesn't fight by years end I would even drop him to 3. Can’t say I can argue strongly at any point on the list. It’s a bit shocking seeing Randy number one but why shouldn’t he be? What he has done all things considered is simply amazing.

And I think the timing is right to move Fedor. If he is chosing Sambo over MMA right now then the slotting fits. If he doesn’t fight by years end I would even drop him to 3.

]]> By: Pramit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2924 Pramit Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:16:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2924 Sam, I'll be making my rankings public this evening. I'm proud to say I was bold enough to push Fedor to #3. I'll catch some flack for that but who has he fought outside Mark Hunt in his division in the last 2 years? Pramit Sam,
I’ll be making my rankings public this evening. I’m proud to say I was bold enough to push Fedor to #3. I’ll catch some flack for that but who has he fought outside Mark Hunt in his division in the last 2 years?

Pramit

]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2923 Sam Caplan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:42:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2923 Luke: Adam mentioned to me via IM that you had Fedor at #2. I had already been concerned about the inactivity and when Adam mentioned it, I just felt like you were right. Do you have Randy number one? Luke:

Adam mentioned to me via IM that you had Fedor at #2. I had already been concerned about the inactivity and when Adam mentioned it, I just felt like you were right.

Do you have Randy number one?

]]> By: Luke http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2922 Luke Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:36:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2922 I, too, vote on Inside MMA's rankings and I, too, have Fedor as #2. I, too, vote on Inside MMA’s rankings and I, too, have Fedor as #2.

]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2919 Sam Caplan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:43:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2919 Jeremy: All good questions that deserve answers: 1) Rothwell really hasn't been pushed like he needs to be but he's fought all the best in the IFL and has been dominant. I know Ricco wasn't in top shape, but I still have respect for his ground game so a win over a former UFC heavyweight champ. Also, loses and inactivity by his peers also played a role as you alluded to. 2. I am a Diego fan but he's 0-2. I also like Koscheck but he's coming off a loss and was in the back of my top ten. With so many good competitors at 170 one loss when you're in the bottom five of the top ten can be enough to move you out. 3. I factored Penn's past history at lightweight into the equation. Also, pure fighting skill is also I factor into it. My criteria isn't based solely on recent accomplishments (although it heavily skews that way). When I put B.J. head-to-head with a lot of guys at 155 lbs., I project him as the winner. Jeremy:

All good questions that deserve answers:

1) Rothwell really hasn’t been pushed like he needs to be but he’s fought all the best in the IFL and has been dominant. I know Ricco wasn’t in top shape, but I still have respect for his ground game so a win over a former UFC heavyweight champ. Also, loses and inactivity by his peers also played a role as you alluded to.

2. I am a Diego fan but he’s 0-2. I also like Koscheck but he’s coming off a loss and was in the back of my top ten. With so many good competitors at 170 one loss when you’re in the bottom five of the top ten can be enough to move you out.

3. I factored Penn’s past history at lightweight into the equation. Also, pure fighting skill is also I factor into it. My criteria isn’t based solely on recent accomplishments (although it heavily skews that way). When I put B.J. head-to-head with a lot of guys at 155 lbs., I project him as the winner.

]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-2918 Jeremy Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:37:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/09/28/5-oz-of-pains-pound-for-pound-top-10-and-new-rankings/#comment-2918 First off, thanks for the effort put in to making the rankings. It's a minor thing but it's fun to look at and discuss, although it will probably bring more aggravation then anything to you guys. Now onto a couple questions. Ben Rothwell as the No.5 heavyweight? Do you really think the competition is good enough in the IFL HW division to be deserving of that ranking or does it come down to the guys below him either being inactive or losing fights recently? No Diego Sanchez or Josh Koscheck in the welterweight division rankings? Must say I was surprised by that. What went into your thinking to not have them in there? No. 1 Lightweight BJ Penn? I have all the respect in the world for Penn but it seemed rather quick to put him at No.1. What did you base the ranking on for him? First off, thanks for the effort put in to making the rankings. It’s a minor thing but it’s fun to look at and discuss, although it will probably bring more aggravation then anything to you guys.

Now onto a couple questions. Ben Rothwell as the No.5 heavyweight? Do you really think the competition is good enough in the IFL HW division to be deserving of that ranking or does it come down to the guys below him either being inactive or losing fights recently?

No Diego Sanchez or Josh Koscheck in the welterweight division rankings? Must say I was surprised by that. What went into your thinking to not have them in there?

No. 1 Lightweight BJ Penn? I have all the respect in the world for Penn but it seemed rather quick to put him at No.1. What did you base the ranking on for him?

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