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		<title>By: Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IFL looking for more gimmicks to save them</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/09/kurt-otto-confirms-talks-with-kurt-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-3533</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IFL looking for more gimmicks to save them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The bad idea in this case: Kurt Angle fighting for the IFL. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The bad idea in this case: Kurt Angle fighting for the IFL. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great way to put it Johnny. Agree 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great way to put it Johnny. Agree 100%</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop it! That&#039;s what i wanna yell at Kurt Angle. As someone who grew to love MMA through pro wrestling, Angle is being a typical old school wrestler who enjoys the nonsense tactic of &quot;working&quot; the fans to get people talking. Except, this is the real world, and you&#039;re lying. Angle likes to sit around with people like Bubba the Love Sponge and Terry &quot;Hulk Hogan&quot; Bollea and make up the most ridiculous statements because no one around them will disagree, and it&#039;s ingrained in wrestlers that they are smarter then fans if they say anything and someone simply nods. They&#039;re &quot;marks&quot;.

The problem is Angle is embarrassing himself. For those of you who don&#039;t know or don&#039;t care about Angle and pro wrestling, know that those of us who follow more then what&#039;s just on TV cringe at him to. Crazy old Vince McMahon even had a moment of lucidity when he realized Angle was badly damaged goods and might die on his watch. So he fired him (Angle swears he quit his million dollar job) and so began the public descent. Angle has talked about MMA for almost two years now. He has never even began basic stand-up training with any major camp (unless the YMCA counts). He was an Olympic champion almost 12 years ago, which is several lifetimes in MMA, and has a badly damaged body. His marketability took a serious hit when WWE let him go, and just last week a &quot;clean&quot; Kurt Angle was arrested for DUI and found at his home by police with what they reported as pills in his mouth. Angle is a troubled man, and not someone who will be making an impact in an MMA promotion near you.

Finally, he&#039;s a discredit to wrestling (yeah, I know, make your jokes) for his behavior over the last year. Many wrestlers know and understand you can&#039;t wrestle at the same time you fight MMA. The tendencies of a worked match and a shoot are the opposite. Honestly, Dave Meltzer should punch Kurt Angle in his broken neck for making his life difficult. When Meltzer shows up to report on the big UFC in Vegas, he&#039;s gotta go down press row being bothered by snide sports reporters asking him about the wrestler who says he&#039;ll kill Randy Couture because Couture wasn&#039;t an Olympic Champion in 1996.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop it! That&#8217;s what i wanna yell at Kurt Angle. As someone who grew to love MMA through pro wrestling, Angle is being a typical old school wrestler who enjoys the nonsense tactic of &#8220;working&#8221; the fans to get people talking. Except, this is the real world, and you&#8217;re lying. Angle likes to sit around with people like Bubba the Love Sponge and Terry &#8220;Hulk Hogan&#8221; Bollea and make up the most ridiculous statements because no one around them will disagree, and it&#8217;s ingrained in wrestlers that they are smarter then fans if they say anything and someone simply nods. They&#8217;re &#8220;marks&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem is Angle is embarrassing himself. For those of you who don&#8217;t know or don&#8217;t care about Angle and pro wrestling, know that those of us who follow more then what&#8217;s just on TV cringe at him to. Crazy old Vince McMahon even had a moment of lucidity when he realized Angle was badly damaged goods and might die on his watch. So he fired him (Angle swears he quit his million dollar job) and so began the public descent. Angle has talked about MMA for almost two years now. He has never even began basic stand-up training with any major camp (unless the YMCA counts). He was an Olympic champion almost 12 years ago, which is several lifetimes in MMA, and has a badly damaged body. His marketability took a serious hit when WWE let him go, and just last week a &#8220;clean&#8221; Kurt Angle was arrested for DUI and found at his home by police with what they reported as pills in his mouth. Angle is a troubled man, and not someone who will be making an impact in an MMA promotion near you.</p>
<p>Finally, he&#8217;s a discredit to wrestling (yeah, I know, make your jokes) for his behavior over the last year. Many wrestlers know and understand you can&#8217;t wrestle at the same time you fight MMA. The tendencies of a worked match and a shoot are the opposite. Honestly, Dave Meltzer should punch Kurt Angle in his broken neck for making his life difficult. When Meltzer shows up to report on the big UFC in Vegas, he&#8217;s gotta go down press row being bothered by snide sports reporters asking him about the wrestler who says he&#8217;ll kill Randy Couture because Couture wasn&#8217;t an Olympic Champion in 1996.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UFC didn&#039;t pursue Angle because he wanted to compete in pro wrestling at the same time, which in Dana&#039;s mind is a disastrous message to send to a growing MMA audience.  

I&#039;d also have to think that Angle would be asking for a ludicrous contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UFC didn&#8217;t pursue Angle because he wanted to compete in pro wrestling at the same time, which in Dana&#8217;s mind is a disastrous message to send to a growing MMA audience.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also have to think that Angle would be asking for a ludicrous contract.</p>
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		<title>By: ted dibiase</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted dibiase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant see this happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant see this happening.</p>
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		<title>By: steve24</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Kurt Angle really wants to come on board. He wants to learn MMA and he wants to come to the IFL specifically because of the team format because he’s used to that.”

LOL, he doesn&#039;t know MMA but is already talking to MMA organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Kurt Angle really wants to come on board. He wants to learn MMA and he wants to come to the IFL specifically because of the team format because he’s used to that.”</p>
<p>LOL, he doesn&#8217;t know MMA but is already talking to MMA organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Schlegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schlegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with u Morgan. Angle would be huuge for the IFL, whose financial struggles are well documented. I know it will have me watching! The one thing I worry about is the added association with steroids when you are talking abouta pro wrestler. I don&#039;t want it to sound like I am accusing Angle at all, because like Morgan said he is the most decorated wrestler MMA has ever seen, so we know the work ethic is there. It just popped in my head, but I guess MMA already has a problem with steroid use anyway. Either way I am very interested in seeing Angle in MMA. I am also watching Brock Lesnar to see how he transitions. I have always thought Pro Wrestlers were extremely tough and sometimes got a bum wrap since the outcomes are pre-decided. I can&#039;t wait, Go Angle! ps, what weight class will he fight at? 205 or heavyweight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with u Morgan. Angle would be huuge for the IFL, whose financial struggles are well documented. I know it will have me watching! The one thing I worry about is the added association with steroids when you are talking abouta pro wrestler. I don&#8217;t want it to sound like I am accusing Angle at all, because like Morgan said he is the most decorated wrestler MMA has ever seen, so we know the work ethic is there. It just popped in my head, but I guess MMA already has a problem with steroid use anyway. Either way I am very interested in seeing Angle in MMA. I am also watching Brock Lesnar to see how he transitions. I have always thought Pro Wrestlers were extremely tough and sometimes got a bum wrap since the outcomes are pre-decided. I can&#8217;t wait, Go Angle! ps, what weight class will he fight at? 205 or heavyweight?</p>
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