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	<title>Comments on: Henderson claims the UFC is trying to make cutbacks</title>
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		<title>By: dice</title>
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		<dc:creator>dice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 3  Jeremy  Says:
October 15th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

&quot;Dizzle, the UFC pays plenty of money to their fighters(especially at Henderson’s level). Show me another promotion that pays as much as the UFC fighters get paid on an average or regular basis, along with everything else they get for fighting in the UFC?&quot;

C&#039;mon jeremy, are you serious?  Plenty of money, compared to what? The average american worker? LOL  If the were &quot;paying them plenty of money&quot; they wouldn&#039;t be having the problems they now have. You get into trouble when you start comparing UFC salaries to other mma promotions.  You need to learn what the word &quot;relative&quot; means.  As in what are the fighters being paid relative to what the company is earning in revenue. People need to start looking at what percent of the revenue goes to fighters and then start comparing orgs. to one another.  Comparing UFC salaries to lower tier shows makes no sense because these shows earn far less.  The problems that are arising in the UFC have nothing to do with whether the UFC pays more than other promotions, it has to do with fighters feeling as though the pie isn&#039;t being cut fairly. There is a big difference.


Bottom line: The debate on whether UFC fighters feel as though they are underpaid is over.  Meltzer reported more than a week ago that top UFC fighters were unhappy with their compensation after learning of what former pride stars were making.  I believe this is just the beginning of a long battle between the UFC and its fighters.  The dream Dana had of getting the best fighters under one roof looks to be dead or a long way off.  He doesn&#039;t even have the top 3 heavyweights right now, they still have yet to sign a lot of prides lightweights, the lightheavy division is lacking a #1 contender,  and his last few cards haven&#039;t sold that well.  Combine this with the fact that they lost the HBO deal, which would have provided yet another source of revenue and you can see where Dan is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 3  Jeremy  Says:<br />
October 15th, 2007 at 1:48 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Dizzle, the UFC pays plenty of money to their fighters(especially at Henderson’s level). Show me another promotion that pays as much as the UFC fighters get paid on an average or regular basis, along with everything else they get for fighting in the UFC?&#8221;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon jeremy, are you serious?  Plenty of money, compared to what? The average american worker? LOL  If the were &#8220;paying them plenty of money&#8221; they wouldn&#8217;t be having the problems they now have. You get into trouble when you start comparing UFC salaries to other mma promotions.  You need to learn what the word &#8220;relative&#8221; means.  As in what are the fighters being paid relative to what the company is earning in revenue. People need to start looking at what percent of the revenue goes to fighters and then start comparing orgs. to one another.  Comparing UFC salaries to lower tier shows makes no sense because these shows earn far less.  The problems that are arising in the UFC have nothing to do with whether the UFC pays more than other promotions, it has to do with fighters feeling as though the pie isn&#8217;t being cut fairly. There is a big difference.</p>
<p>Bottom line: The debate on whether UFC fighters feel as though they are underpaid is over.  Meltzer reported more than a week ago that top UFC fighters were unhappy with their compensation after learning of what former pride stars were making.  I believe this is just the beginning of a long battle between the UFC and its fighters.  The dream Dana had of getting the best fighters under one roof looks to be dead or a long way off.  He doesn&#8217;t even have the top 3 heavyweights right now, they still have yet to sign a lot of prides lightweights, the lightheavy division is lacking a #1 contender,  and his last few cards haven&#8217;t sold that well.  Combine this with the fact that they lost the HBO deal, which would have provided yet another source of revenue and you can see where Dan is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: tomkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that Matt Hughes no longer has the Xyience link on his affiliations page but now has Nutritox has anyone tried their products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Matt Hughes no longer has the Xyience link on his affiliations page but now has Nutritox has anyone tried their products?</p>
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		<title>By: dizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy I never said they didn&#039;t pay their fighters pleny of money. We all know that the top fighters in the UFC get payed decent wages.

This is just one of those things that happens in every industry. People working for company feel the same way. They feel like they don&#039;t get the respect they deserve while they are the ones who are helping the company grow &amp; make more money.

I&#039;m just glad that some of the fighters are coming out and letting it be known what they like and dislike about the org. The bottom like is that people don&#039;t like the feeling of being taken advantage of. It&#039;s just human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy I never said they didn&#8217;t pay their fighters pleny of money. We all know that the top fighters in the UFC get payed decent wages.</p>
<p>This is just one of those things that happens in every industry. People working for company feel the same way. They feel like they don&#8217;t get the respect they deserve while they are the ones who are helping the company grow &amp; make more money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad that some of the fighters are coming out and letting it be known what they like and dislike about the org. The bottom like is that people don&#8217;t like the feeling of being taken advantage of. It&#8217;s just human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dizzle, the UFC pays plenty of money to their fighters(especially at Henderson&#039;s level).  Show me another promotion that pays as much as the UFC fighters get paid on an average or regular basis, along with everything else they get for fighting in the UFC?

I think the biggest problem with all this for the fighters anyways, is that there isn&#039;t another promotion right now that can compete with the UFC financially.  For the fighters to win this battle they need that option, right now it doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dizzle, the UFC pays plenty of money to their fighters(especially at Henderson&#8217;s level).  Show me another promotion that pays as much as the UFC fighters get paid on an average or regular basis, along with everything else they get for fighting in the UFC?</p>
<p>I think the biggest problem with all this for the fighters anyways, is that there isn&#8217;t another promotion right now that can compete with the UFC financially.  For the fighters to win this battle they need that option, right now it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: dizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a good thing that the fighters are doing. The UFC needs to think more about their fighters and less about their brand name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a good thing that the fighters are doing. The UFC needs to think more about their fighters and less about their brand name.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if true...

 but has he ever been in a financial meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if true&#8230;</p>
<p> but has he ever been in a financial meeting?</p>
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