Comments on: Tim Sylvia, “five time UFC champion” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: gipper http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4217 gipper Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:29:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4217 i don't think it's bullshit. i can't beleive you wrote an article about this. you don't have a clue on this one. most fighters will say defending the belt is tougher than winning it. every championship fight is a new fight and the belt is on the line. for those 5 rounds the belt isn't the champs unless he can win it back. i don’t think it’s bullshit. i can’t beleive you wrote an article about this. you don’t have a clue on this one. most fighters will say defending the belt is tougher than winning it. every championship fight is a new fight and the belt is on the line. for those 5 rounds the belt isn’t the champs unless he can win it back.

]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4208 bubbafat Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:04:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4208 just cuz it makes it sound consecutive. I tell ya Zuffa knows how to market propoganda and spin. They are not idiots in that regard. just cuz it makes it sound consecutive. I tell ya Zuffa knows how to market propoganda and spin. They are not idiots in that regard.

]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4207 bubbafat Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:02:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4207 5 time defending champ sure. 5 time defending champ sure.

]]> By: Leland Roling http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4185 Leland Roling Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:38:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4185 Ahh, so Fedor didn't have the title on the line every time, but it was for a few fights. Anyways, this is ridiculous. If you obtain the belt, and defend it over and over, you aren't a 5-time champion. I find it stupid how the UFC touts guys for being 3-time champions, etc. Randy Couture was a legitimate 3-time champion. He lost and regained the title. That's what it means. Ahh, so Fedor didn’t have the title on the line every time, but it was for a few fights.

Anyways, this is ridiculous.

If you obtain the belt, and defend it over and over, you aren’t a 5-time champion. I find it stupid how the UFC touts guys for being 3-time champions, etc. Randy Couture was a legitimate 3-time champion. He lost and regained the title. That’s what it means.

]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4181 Accomando Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:21:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4181 "...Seb and Accomando are completely wrong, If the belt is “up for grabs” each time then the one with the belt isn’t “defending” anything..." Basically, the UFC is the only belt, a defense counts as a title win, thats the way it goes with the UFC. Get used to it. There are no other titles to win, once you are the champ, you don't go and fight the Elite XC champ, or the KOTC champ. UFC is like the NFL. If a team wins the superbowl 2 years in a row, they are 2 time champions. That is how the UFC views thier belt, that its the only legitimate championship in each wieght class. Until they get serious competition, that is the way it will stay. “…Seb and Accomando are completely wrong, If the belt is “up for grabs” each time then the one with the belt isn’t “defending” anything…”

Basically, the UFC is the only belt, a defense counts as a title win, thats the way it goes with the UFC. Get used to it. There are no other titles to win, once you are the champ, you don’t go and fight the Elite XC champ, or the KOTC champ.

UFC is like the NFL. If a team wins the superbowl 2 years in a row, they are 2 time champions.

That is how the UFC views thier belt, that its the only legitimate championship in each wieght class.

Until they get serious competition, that is the way it will stay.

]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4178 Accomando Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:51:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4178 "...Traditionally, five-time champ means won the belt away from someone five times. That’s how they do it in boxing..." Thats because boxing has IBF, WBO, WBC, WBA, and Rings title belts. A Right now UFC is the only game in town, so thier belt is the "only" champion. “…Traditionally, five-time champ means won the belt away from someone five times. That’s how they do it in boxing…”

Thats because boxing has IBF, WBO, WBC, WBA, and Rings title belts. A

Right now UFC is the only game in town, so thier belt is the “only” champion.

]]> By: Adam Morgan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4176 Adam Morgan Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:26:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4176 I wish they would be consistent with it. Why call Couture a "three time champion" and Sylvia a "five time champion"? I wish they would be consistent with it. Why call Couture a “three time champion” and Sylvia a “five time champion”?

]]> By: Ben Fowlkes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4174 Ben Fowlkes Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:20:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4174 <p>I agree that it seems silly to refer to him as a five-time champ simply because the belt was on the line all those times. Traditionally, five-time champ means won the belt away from someone five times. That's how they do it in boxing (otherwise Evander Holyfield would be, what, the fifteen-time heavyweight champ? It just gets ridiculous that way).</p> I agree that it seems silly to refer to him as a five-time champ simply because the belt was on the line all those times. Traditionally, five-time champ means won the belt away from someone five times. That’s how they do it in boxing (otherwise Evander Holyfield would be, what, the fifteen-time heavyweight champ? It just gets ridiculous that way).

]]> By: Schlegel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4171 Schlegel Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:29:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4171 Seb and Accomando are completely wrong, If the belt is "up for grabs" each time then the one with the belt isn't "defending" anything, he is trying to get something. And we all hear Bruce say the same thing, "the reigning, DEFENDING" Champ, so what is he defending if you say it is up for grabs each time? This isn't a tournament anymore like back in the day, so Tim Sylvia is the two time champ, what the hell is a "Title Defense" if you win it new each time? Seb and Accomando are completely wrong, If the belt is “up for grabs” each time then the one with the belt isn’t “defending” anything, he is trying to get something. And we all hear Bruce say the same thing, “the reigning, DEFENDING” Champ, so what is he defending if you say it is up for grabs each time? This isn’t a tournament anymore like back in the day, so Tim Sylvia is the two time champ, what the hell is a “Title Defense” if you win it new each time?

]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4165 Accomando Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:38:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4165 Don't get me wrong, it was an entertaining read. Also, I think they get a new belt after every title defense as well. I could be wrong. So sylvia might have 5 belts, thus bolstering the 5 time champ claim. Don’t get me wrong, it was an entertaining read.

Also, I think they get a new belt after every title defense as well. I could be wrong.

So sylvia might have 5 belts, thus bolstering the 5 time champ claim.

]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4164 Accomando Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:34:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4164 -weren't titile fights- -weren’t titile fights-

]]> By: Accomando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4163 Accomando Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:33:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4163 "...I guess I don’t really have a point here, other than this little know fact is complete and utter bullshit. Successful defenses should not count as having “won” the championship again, especially not against someone like Gan McGee..." You don't and heres why. The belt is up for grabs, someone wins it, get it? Seriously, your idea is dumb, in order to be a 6 time champ, you need to lose 5 times in your book for the fight to count as a title win? I can't believe you posted this. As for Fedor being the 13 time defending champ, that is B.S. because the BELT wasn't on the line, in typical PRIDE fashion, hence the fights were title fights, meaning no-one won a belt. Seb is dead on. “…I guess I don’t really have a point here, other than this little know fact is complete and utter bullshit. Successful defenses should not count as having “won” the championship again, especially not against someone like Gan McGee…”

You don’t and heres why.

The belt is up for grabs, someone wins it, get it?

Seriously, your idea is dumb, in order to be a 6 time champ, you need to lose 5 times in your book for the fight to count as a title win?

I can’t believe you posted this.

As for Fedor being the 13 time defending champ, that is B.S. because the BELT wasn’t on the line, in typical PRIDE fashion, hence the fights were title fights, meaning no-one won a belt.

Seb is dead on.

]]> By: Leland Roling http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4159 Leland Roling Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:25:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4159 According to that logic, Fedor would be the 13-time PRIDE Heavyweight Champion. According to that logic, Fedor would be the 13-time PRIDE Heavyweight Champion.

]]> By: Gabber http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4156 Gabber Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:02:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4156 I kind of always thought that was messed as well, but I didn't realize that every time they win, they get a new belt (or so I think) cause if you watch the UFC (Inside/Countdown/Dickwave) program in Randy's place, he has *way* more then 4 belts in his cabinet (1 LHW win, 3 HW wins) so I just think they give him a new one every time. Can't get blame Sylvia, five is easy for him, he can point with the left and count each digit on his right hand and always be right. Zing! I kind of always thought that was messed as well, but I didn’t realize that every time they win, they get a new belt (or so I think) cause if you watch the UFC (Inside/Countdown/Dickwave) program in Randy’s place, he has *way* more then 4 belts in his cabinet (1 LHW win, 3 HW wins) so I just think they give him a new one every time.

Can’t get blame Sylvia, five is easy for him, he can point with the left and count each digit on his right hand and always be right.

Zing!

]]> By: seb http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4152 seb Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:17:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4152 To defend the belt is worth more, in my opinion. If you're a three time champion by this logic, you've lost it at least twice :) To defend the belt is worth more, in my opinion. If you’re a three time champion by this logic, you’ve lost it at least twice :)

]]> By: Matt Boone http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4132 Matt Boone Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:32:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4132 I used to hate that. Matt Hughes was big on that too, always calling himself a 5-time Welterweight champion, etc. (5 before he got it back and defended a few times obviously, but he was doing that for a while himself). Don't they realize to the layman that's thought of as them losing the belt 4 times, in the case of Hughes? It's a lot better to say 2-time champion with 7 defenses or whatever. Oh well, to each his own. I used to hate that. Matt Hughes was big on that too, always calling himself a 5-time Welterweight champion, etc. (5 before he got it back and defended a few times obviously, but he was doing that for a while himself).

Don’t they realize to the layman that’s thought of as them losing the belt 4 times, in the case of Hughes? It’s a lot better to say 2-time champion with 7 defenses or whatever. Oh well, to each his own.

]]> By: Sheesh http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4125 Sheesh Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:47:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4125 Jesus dude!...This is the dumbest article ever. Did you just start watching MMA today or something? Jesus dude!…This is the dumbest article ever. Did you just start watching MMA today or something?

]]> By: Dan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4123 Dan Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:33:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4123 Weird.. I noticed a bio about matt hughes on a certain online poker website he's now sponsored by and it calling him a "nine time" champion what a poser Weird.. I noticed a bio about matt hughes on a certain online poker website he’s now sponsored by and it calling him a “nine time” champion

what a poser

]]> By: Kris Karkoski http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/comment-page-1/#comment-4122 Kris Karkoski Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:46:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/10/19/tim-sylvia-five-time-ufc-champion/#comment-4122 I've noticed this a while ago I just wish they'd be consistent with it is all. I’ve noticed this a while ago I just wish they’d be consistent with it is all.

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