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ShoXC 10/26 Thoughts

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By Adam Morgan

Where was Mauro? We got Al Bernstein? Are you kidding me? This guy wouldn’t know an armbar from a kneebar if he was looking at the two side by side. He’s a boxing guy and it showed. Quadros carried the broadcast tonight. Did Mauro have better things to do? We he reprimanded by EliteXC for his “25 centimeter pole” comment on the last card? We want Mauro back, dammit! No more Al Bernstein or boxing commentators. Please.

Bobby McMaster got the short end of the stick. The stand up in this fight was absolutely uncalled for and premature. Worse than the Gonzaga/Cro Cop stand up by Herb Dean. McMaster was dominating the first round, landing solid shots from Muhsin Corbbrey’s guard. The ref literally jumped in during the middle of a punch that was about to land on Corbbrey’s face in order to stand the fighters up. Soon thereafter, Corbbrey locked in a standing guillotine, McMaster tried to slam him down and get out of the guillotine and put himself right into closed guard and the full guillotine. He tapped with one second left in the first round. Complete screwjob by the ref, McMaster was winning the fight until then. Take nothing away from Corbbrey however, he seized the opportunity and took advantage of it.

Shayna BaszlerGina Carano, look out, here comes Shayna Baszler. Baszler made very short work of a tough opponent tonight in Jennifer Tate. As soon as the fight hit the ground, Tate was clearly outclassed. Baszler took full mount and set up a slick armbar with a couple of punches to the face. I would love to see Carano and Baszler get in the cage and throw down.

Malaipet’s Muay Thai looked crisp. We saw some serious Muay Thai skills from this guy tonight. His leg kicks and combinations were incredibly accurate. He basically won the fight with leg kicks and dominated all three rounds. I don’t know why Kaleo Kwan never tried to shoot in for the takedown or clinch Malaipet up. He had one takedown attempt at the end of the third round that almost worked. He should have been trying this tactic more often. Malaipet is someone I definitely want to see more of. The only question will be what he does when he hits the ground.

Javier Vazquez made short work of his opponent, then retired. What the hell? I think Stephen Quadros was speechless during the post fight interview.Vazquez and his trademark pink shorts put on a jiu jitsu clinic tonight, ending the fight with a one-handed rear naked choke early in the first round. Then he retired. He’s only 30 years old and a world class jiu jitsu practitioner with a promising future in the sport. He claimed that the sport felt like a job to him and that he’s just clocking in and out. He said he’s lost the desire and feels he’s better suited to be a coach than a fighter right now. Best of luck to Javi and hopefully he regains his fire after some time off. I’d love to see him back in the cage.

Jared Hamman dominated Aaron Rosa. From start to finish, this fight was in Hamman’s hands. With the exception of a couple of big shots that Rosa landed while the fighters were standing, Hamman took this fight to the ground and excelled there. He had Rosa mounted, he had his back, he had his arm pinned and rained down punches, and completely dominated from the top position. Eventually he was able to get Rosa’s back and lock in a tight rear naked to end the fight. Hamman surprised a lot of people tonight, including myself. I had Rosa in this fight and he wore Rosa down and imposed his will. Solid victory for Hamman and I’m sure we’ll be seeing him again.

Overall Grade: C+

28 COMMENTS
  • screwface says:

    i applaud you for keeping it real sam, im sure lots were worried that if you write for elite wed get nothing but fluff, but im happy to see thats not the case. keep doin your thing, i may enjoy arguing with your opinions from time to time but dont think for 1 minute i dont hold you in the highest regards.

    btw jennifer tate isnt that tough of an opponent, so dont go calling out gina just yet :p
    i reccommend you watch fight girls season 1 to see jennifer as a fighter and gina as a mentor.

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    Sam didn’t write this. ‘Twas me. :)

    Although Sam won’t give EliteXC any special treatment. That is one objective mofo.

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    Just because Al Bernstein is a boxing announcer doesn’t automatically mean that he won’t be good at MMA announcing. He was actually pretty good for a first-time MMA broadcaster. He was much better than “The Colonel” Bob Sheridan (which admittedly isn’t saying much), and unlike Mauro Ranallo he made it through a womens’ MMA fight without saying that he’d like to poke one of the female fighters with a pole.

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    On the whole, the ShoXC event was pretty good. Shayna Baszler was extremely impressive and would probably have the same result against Gina Carano.

    Unfortunately, EliteXC is sinking to the level of using footage of Kimbo’s illegal street fights to promote his EliteXC debut, which is pretty damn shameful. At least when the UFC signed Sean Gannon as a result of the notoriety that he gained for beating Kimbo, they didn’t actually use footage of Gannon vs. Kimbo to promote Gannon’s UFC debut, they just talked about it.

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    Did they show Kimbo street fight footage? I must have missed that or I would have mentioned it.

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    It was only briefly in the promo for the November 10th event, but it was there. It was enough to give you the impression that this guy is a street-fighting expert, so those little snippets of footage accomplished their purpose. The presence of those brief clips is also a strong indication that there will be more of them in the future, because if they had decided as a matter of decency not to air any clips of illegal street fights in the build-up to Kimbo’s EliteXC debut, that wouldn’t have been on there at all. I hope that Sam Caplan is critical of EliteXC for using that footage, because it has no place in this sport.

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  • Makea says:

    I have never seen Slice’s youtube fights, so speaking objectively, the promo footage didn’t appear to imply much.

    Just quick random shots, no bloody cuts or knock-outs.

    EliteXC did the best they could. Can you imagine if M1 Global signs Josh Barnett? How will they promo him? Pro wrestling footage?

    The UFC is fortunate enough that they don’t need WWE footage to promote Brock Lesnar, since many pro wrestling and MMA fans are aware of him.

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  • koolpaw says:

    Shayna Baszler will accept the fight offer against Gina Carano? I doubt it. they r at different weight class by now. All of those top female fighters at 135 wont accept as well as long as Gina would not make weight.

    or Gina and EliteXC are brave enough to fight in that cruel open-weight elimination tournament of K-Grace?

    If EliteXc want to call those tough fighters at 135lb for Gina, They need to pay a lot. But that $ will be fair enough to take the risk to fight against a heavy striker who weighs over 140 lb. Ridiculous match-up i would say.

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    <p>I’d like to defend Al Bernstein. First, he’s one of the few hardcore boxing guys that is open-minded when it comes to MMA. Also, he was being a good company guy by pinch hitting per the request of Showtime. And for a guy whose first love is not MMA, Bernstein did a professional job on last night’s telecast. Do I want to see Mauro back in the saddle for Nov. 10? Absolutely! And he will be back. But Bernstein didn’t kill last night’s telecast.</p>

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    Ivan, I agree that footage of Kimbo’s street fights should not be used for promo purposes. You don’t want to glamorize street fights because it sends kids the wrong message. You don’t want people thinking they can get into a major MMA promotion by fighting in the street and putting it up on YouTube. If they need footage of Kimbo for promo purposes, show him in the gym working with Bas Rutten.

    The only time I think it would be appropriate to show brief shots of his street fights is if they do any documentary-style promos about his backstory, because then, I think it becomes very relevant.

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    Just a heads up, but Gary Shaw is quoted in a press release after the fact as saying that Baszler may have earned a shot at Gina Carano with the decisive victory over Tate.

    My money would be on Baszler.

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    “Shayna Baszler will accept the fight offer against Gina Carano? I doubt it. they r at different weight class by now. ”

    Are you kidding me? If anything, it’s Carano that EliteXC would be protecting if they didn’t book that fight. Baszler has shown an ability to beat any female mixed martial artist in North America except for Tara LaRosa and Amanda Buckner, who are the top two female MMA fighters in the U.S., and even against them she put up good fights. In a battle of Carano and Baszler, even though Carano would have a weight advantage, it would be likely that Baszler would win, and possibly with a very quick submission just as in the Jennifer Tate fight. EliteXC probably should have booked Baszler to fight Carano on the Hawaii show, but instead they booked Carano to fight someone who had just lost her last fight not long before.

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  • koolpaw says:

    Sam thanx for heading up.

    So Shayna is ready to fight now? or i should say “EliteXC and Gina are ready to fight finally”? lol .

    Ivan , its old old story among female MMA fans and fighters, u just dont know that and i dont want to repeat it again here. EliteXC has been doing OK in most of cases, but The only part i dont like about them is their female division and that silly “protected cage” for their star.

    That really pissed us off , although the top fighters at 135lb dont complain officially coz they are nice girls, dont want o say bad about eac others and know they still need the ” face” of Female MMA to spread to the world. But a lot of ridiculous things has been going under the water i have heard, most of the fighters U named has posed doubt to the treatment of EliteXC`s female division.

    i am not a representative of Female MMA but still very proud of Shayna if she decided to fight against a heavy fighter than her usual weight. My money would be on Shayna too.

    Dont take me wrong, im not saying Gina is not a good fighter. Her striking skills and efforts for ground fight is excellent. She has big potential obviously.

    But first of all, she has to make weight if she wants to prove herself at 135 lb against Tara, Amanda, Shayna, Roxanne, and Debi. Laura, those top girls and legends. Anyways, its a good sign that EliteXC is taking female division serious finally.

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  • Mr. Takedown says:

    The LaRosa / Baszler fight was back and forth until LaRosa put her away at the end. That was a really entertaining fight. Baszler can bring no doubt. Carano/Baszler would also be another entertaining fight. I hope we see this one at 135lbs and not 145 or whatever weight Carano fights at.

    I liked seeing Al Bernstein on the broadcast. He is no Mauro but he’s a familiar voice and if they continue to use him I’m sure he’ll get better at calling MMA.

    I also was surprised to the the Kimbo street fight video in the promo. Ya know CFFC should have sold them some highlights from the Kimbo/Mercer fight to use for the promo, we know they could have use the money!

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  • screwface says:

    sorry adam, was late when i posted, good review tho.

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  • perpetuum says:

    Sam Morgan, lay off Bernstein please. He did an awesome job his first time out. He knew enough to keep his mouth shut when he didn’t understand what was going on and let Quadros explain the grappling. Also, unlike many inexperienced MMA announcers who are paired up with veterans, Bernstein didn’t constantly throw annoying, uninformed questions to his color man (see Bas Rutten’s broadcast partner for the first Gracie FC show).

    Furthermore, Bernstein has a very chill, natural delivery as opposed to Mauro’s over-the-top, twitchy, 20 cappuccino, forced, fake, bad-pun-riddled, smarmy, WWE promoter announcing style. Bernstein lent the broadcast booth as sense of calm professionalism, which I thoroughly enjoyed. The more Bernstein watches the sport, the better he’ll get at his job. There is certainly no shortage of MMA fight and instructional DVDs that he can buy to help bring himself up to speed faster. I very much hope they keep using him (and Quadros) for at least the ShoXC cards, if not the EliteXC broadcasts as well.

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    Buckner vs. Baszler was also an excellent fight.

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    Who is Sam Morgan? The fighter, Sammy Morgan? Or did Adam Morgan and I have offspring?

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    Sam Morgan FTW.

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  • perpetuum says:

    @ Sam Caplan. Which of these three explanations would make the most sense:

    1.) I was addressing my comments to a completely random fighter (Sammy Morgan) who was not on the card being discussed and has nothing to do with ShoXC.

    2.) I was referencing a hypothetical man-on-man love child that you and your colleague created.

    3.) I made a simple typing error.

    The smart money’s on number 3.

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    Like I said, Sam Morgan FTW :)

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  • Sam Cupitt says:

    Al Bernstein’s a strange dude. He’s been quoted in a number of articles, denouncing the fans of MMA and just claiming its a blood sport. But he’s also attended UFC 44 and now commentates this show last night.

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  • Al Bernstein says:

    Just saw this last comment, and I have to set the record straight–this is Al Bernstein–and I have NEVER denounced MMA fans or said it’s a blood sport. In fact, I have always said there is plenty of room for both MMA and boxing in the big tent of combat sports. Ihave a lot of respect for the MMA participants, as I do boxers. That’s why I accepted the assignment to do the ShowXC show last night. I certainly am no MMA expert–but as a play by play announcer on the show I tried to provide information and handle the traffic of the broadcast and allow Stephen to do the superb analysis that he always does. Stephen and Mauro do a wonderful job on that show and the EliteXC show, and will continue to do so. I, like so many of you, will continue to watch. Thanks top all of you on this forum for your comments, both pro and con.

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  • […] Plus, Shayna Baszler (friend of Fight Opinion) won her fight in quick fashion. Adam Morgan has a recap of the ShoXC […]

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  • Ivan Trembow says:

    I don’t recall seeing any articles in which Al Bernstein badmouths MMA and its fans. I probably did and forgot about it, but could you send along any links? Those quotes would be much more significant now that he is apparently an MMA broadcaster.

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    I have to agree with Ivan. I’ve never seen anything attributed to Bernstein that has bad mouthed MMA. He’s always treated MMA fighters with the same respect he would a boxer.

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  • dizzle says:

    HAHA maybe someone played another prank on Mauro like Cro-Cop did when he first started working for PrideFC.

    maybe one of the fighters got in his face and bitched him up?

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  • dizzle says:

    Also…is Cung Lee ever going to fight Frank Shamrock?

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