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		<title>By: Dizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank he has fought Sean Gannon (if i am correct) and actually lost. It was just a stand up fight and they didn&#039;t like the idea of knees to the head which I think is what made him lose that fight.

thats the only fight that I know of that he has lost that has been put on the internet.

also Sean actually fought in UFC once or twice and ended up losing the bout/bouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank he has fought Sean Gannon (if i am correct) and actually lost. It was just a stand up fight and they didn&#8217;t like the idea of knees to the head which I think is what made him lose that fight.</p>
<p>thats the only fight that I know of that he has lost that has been put on the internet.</p>
<p>also Sean actually fought in UFC once or twice and ended up losing the bout/bouts.
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me if Slice has ever fought someone of substance aside from much smaller or overweight guys in backyards, boatyards or  padded basements?  In the &quot;professional sphere&quot; he only fought a 50 year old and a guy who is widely suspected of taking a dive.  Let&#039;s get real and give this guy some real competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me if Slice has ever fought someone of substance aside from much smaller or overweight guys in backyards, boatyards or  padded basements?  In the &#8220;professional sphere&#8221; he only fought a 50 year old and a guy who is widely suspected of taking a dive.  Let&#8217;s get real and give this guy some real competition.
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		<title>By: Sam Cupitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Cupitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice write up.

Just so you know people, Sam isn&#039;t saying EliteXC should have some guy dressing in Roman gear and then have operatic music in the background. He&#039;s simply saying there is a better way of building up a fight during the broadcast and that the UFC is an example of this. Throwing in a few comments from MMA legends like Bas Rutten into the mix as well could help as well.

On a side note, it seems Dana White isn&#039;t closing the door on Kimbo as he was a bit more respectful to Kimbo&#039;s dedication in the UFC 78 teleconference</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up.</p>
<p>Just so you know people, Sam isn&#8217;t saying EliteXC should have some guy dressing in Roman gear and then have operatic music in the background. He&#8217;s simply saying there is a better way of building up a fight during the broadcast and that the UFC is an example of this. Throwing in a few comments from MMA legends like Bas Rutten into the mix as well could help as well.</p>
<p>On a side note, it seems Dana White isn&#8217;t closing the door on Kimbo as he was a bit more respectful to Kimbo&#8217;s dedication in the UFC 78 teleconference
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		<title>By: el feo</title>
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		<dc:creator>el feo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phil, bas or randy would be great on commentary. Either way, give Goldberg the hook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phil, bas or randy would be great on commentary. Either way, give Goldberg the hook.
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		<title>By: GameCritics.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>GameCritics.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, amen on the whole &quot;gross generalization&quot; of booing. I think there are many smart fans that boo for the right reasons (boring fights, bad decisions) and fans have every right to boo. Its the fan participation is often what creates special moments in sporting events. The politness of Japanese fans is boring and their ohh and ahhs over ground fighting is so overrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, amen on the whole &#8220;gross generalization&#8221; of booing. I think there are many smart fans that boo for the right reasons (boring fights, bad decisions) and fans have every right to boo. Its the fan participation is often what creates special moments in sporting events. The politness of Japanese fans is boring and their ohh and ahhs over ground fighting is so overrated.
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sam, you&#039;re totally right. Shoulda read your whole article, I don&#039;t know why this one portion was excerpted but it wasn&#039;t really representative of the entirety. You&#039;re right, I&#039;m wrong :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sam, you&#8217;re totally right. Shoulda read your whole article, I don&#8217;t know why this one portion was excerpted but it wasn&#8217;t really representative of the entirety. You&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m wrong <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam: I will, as soon as Proelite.com is working again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: I will, as soon as Proelite.com is working again&#8230;
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s an excellent question and I would like to see him do his commentating somewhere if not fighting. I think Randy is awesome when he projects his voice and makes himself clear. 

As for Mir, he did an outstanding job at the last WEC. I was really surprised at his flow and explanation of the fight. A little over the top at times (WEC has the best fighers!!!!!!!!) but that’s being far too picky I think.

A little off topic but next time you see him hold that mic check out his knuckles as they looked like they had small under the skin. He&#039;s going to have serious problems when he gets older it would seem. I assume its some form of arthritis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s an excellent question and I would like to see him do his commentating somewhere if not fighting. I think Randy is awesome when he projects his voice and makes himself clear. </p>
<p>As for Mir, he did an outstanding job at the last WEC. I was really surprised at his flow and explanation of the fight. A little over the top at times (WEC has the best fighers!!!!!!!!) but that’s being far too picky I think.</p>
<p>A little off topic but next time you see him hold that mic check out his knuckles as they looked like they had small under the skin. He&#8217;s going to have serious problems when he gets older it would seem. I assume its some form of arthritis?
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		<title>By: Gabber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah for sure, well I think that&#039;s the case with any ex-fighter, with some exceptions (Randy Couture).  Now that Randy isn&#039;t with the UFC, would he be able to contract out his abilities to EliteXC or another promotion as a commentator?  Or did his contract include that as well?

Frank Mir was originally another bad one, I haven&#039;t heard him since he started doing WEC.  HFC had Pat Militech do a show a while ago, he was wicked too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah for sure, well I think that&#8217;s the case with any ex-fighter, with some exceptions (Randy Couture).  Now that Randy isn&#8217;t with the UFC, would he be able to contract out his abilities to EliteXC or another promotion as a commentator?  Or did his contract include that as well?</p>
<p>Frank Mir was originally another bad one, I haven&#8217;t heard him since he started doing WEC.  HFC had Pat Militech do a show a while ago, he was wicked too.
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabber

IMO Bas is awesome but runs out of material fast. I think he needs Q-Cards or some other form of prepared statements to really shine. Left alone you get too many &quot;I think this fight is great!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabber</p>
<p>IMO Bas is awesome but runs out of material fast. I think he needs Q-Cards or some other form of prepared statements to really shine. Left alone you get too many &#8220;I think this fight is great!&#8221;
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