Comments on: Random Rant: UFC forces Clay Guida to cancel ProElite.com chat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Fri, 25 May 2012 17:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Drewdoodoo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6228 Drewdoodoo Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:05:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6228 Sam, I think it is great that their refusal of your credentials for the event is actually leading to your coverage of the event on ProElite. They need to stop ignoring the other organizations in the sport. They rarely mentioned Pride or WEC in their broadcasts before Zuffa picked them up. They talk about them all of the time now. It is probably part of why the HBO thing didn't work out. Dana wasn't going to be able to control the HBO commentators and keep them from mentioning the IFL, EliteXC, Bodog, ect. fighters. Sam, I think it is great that their refusal of your credentials for the event is actually leading to your coverage of the event on ProElite.

They need to stop ignoring the other organizations in the sport. They rarely mentioned Pride or WEC in their broadcasts before Zuffa picked them up. They talk about them all of the time now. It is probably part of why the HBO thing didn’t work out. Dana wasn’t going to be able to control the HBO commentators and keep them from mentioning the IFL, EliteXC, Bodog, ect. fighters.

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]]> By: Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6212 Mike Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:56:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6212 We're still talking about Clay Guida, i imagine as much if not more than we would have if he would have done the interview... We’re still talking about Clay Guida, i imagine as much if not more than we would have if he would have done the interview…

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6195 Kelvin Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:10:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6195 "If that’s their point of view, it’s a valid one. But what about Clay Guida? And what about the fans? Where do they fit in?" Fans of the UFC know Guida...so from the UFC's POV...if fans know Guida...and see Guida on proelite's website...an affiliate with EliteXC...that legitimizes them...and could influence them to check out a show they promote in the future. “If that’s their point of view, it’s a valid one. But what about Clay Guida? And what about the fans? Where do they fit in?”

Fans of the UFC know Guida…so from the UFC’s POV…if fans know Guida…and see Guida on proelite’s website…an affiliate with EliteXC…that legitimizes them…and could influence them to check out a show they promote in the future.

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]]> By: Rln http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6194 Rln Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:45:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6194 "It’s very interesting that the UFC would take this approach with a fighter such as Guida, who would stand to gain from the publicity generated from the interaction with fans." Anybody that would have tuned into this web chat already knows who Clay Guida is. He's not losing anything by not doing it and I seriously doubt that he would have picked up any significant amount of new fans from this. "although there’s a big difference between ProElite.com and EliteXC.com." Come on dude. Who are you trying to kid? “It’s very interesting that the UFC would take this approach with a fighter such as Guida, who would stand to gain from the publicity generated from the interaction with fans.”

Anybody that would have tuned into this web chat already knows who Clay Guida is. He’s not losing anything by not doing it and I seriously doubt that he would have picked up any significant amount of new fans from this.

“although there’s a big difference between ProElite.com and EliteXC.com.”

Come on dude. Who are you trying to kid?

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]]> By: pr0cs http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6185 pr0cs Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:33:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6185 I agree with the UFC on this one but I do wish they would be more "internet friendly". Their standoffish attitude towards the internet and bloggers is pretty bad, esp those that are independent. I agree with the UFC on this one but I do wish they would be more “internet friendly”. Their standoffish attitude towards the internet and bloggers is pretty bad, esp those that are independent.

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]]> By: Davey D http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6181 Davey D Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:07:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6181 In Clay's case it like they're saying, "There nothing personal going on, it's just business." Which is smart business. If he has signed to Nike, then Nike wouldn't be to happy if he spoke to Joe Skee Love from Reebok.com about the birds and the bees or whatever. In your case Sam, it's almost like you're gulity by association. Which sucks because this site is awesome and is one of the few I check out daily. I guess if you can't beat them, join them huh? Has long as or if you come to an agreement with them as to how your going to do certain layout in regards to "their" business and "you" stick to it then, everyone should be happy. First and foremost; you are a fan yourself, no? Keep doing your thing. Cheers! In Clay’s case it like they’re saying, “There nothing personal going on, it’s just business.” Which is smart business. If he has signed to Nike, then Nike wouldn’t be to happy if he spoke to Joe Skee Love from Reebok.com about the birds and the bees or whatever.

In your case Sam, it’s almost like you’re gulity by association. Which sucks because this site is awesome and is one of the few I check out daily. I guess if you can’t beat them, join them huh? Has long as or if you come to an agreement with them as to how your going to do certain layout in regards to “their” business and “you” stick to it then, everyone should be happy.

First and foremost; you are a fan yourself, no? Keep doing your thing. Cheers!

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]]> By: Da Twin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6180 Da Twin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:06:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6180 The UFC doesnt want Pro Elite (which is partners with EliteXC) to benifit from what their fighters or events! I agree with the UFC, Clay just has to do an interview somewhere else The UFC doesnt want Pro Elite (which is partners with EliteXC) to benifit from what their fighters or events! I agree with the UFC, Clay just has to do an interview somewhere else

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]]> By: Brad http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6179 Brad Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:05:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6179 You're an employee of the competition. If you cared that much about Clay Guida and the fans, you would have remained neutral and declined the offer from ProElite. You’re an employee of the competition. If you cared that much about Clay Guida and the fans, you would have remained neutral and declined the offer from ProElite.

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]]> By: Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6170 Mike Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:25:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6170 I agree with Dana and Co. He has a contract with the UFC, which to my limited knowledge is exclusive, therefore shouldn’t participate on any competitor’s website. Proelite is affiliated with EliteXC. Its pretty cut and dry to me. I assume Dana would have no problem with Clay being on any other MMA website that isn’t affiliated with another promotion. In all reality Clay Guida is an entity of the UFC, they need to protect themselves. I agree with Dana and Co. He has a contract with the UFC, which to my limited knowledge is exclusive, therefore shouldn’t participate on any competitor’s website. Proelite is affiliated with EliteXC. Its pretty cut and dry to me. I assume Dana would have no problem with Clay being on any other MMA website that isn’t affiliated with another promotion. In all reality Clay Guida is an entity of the UFC, they need to protect themselves.

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]]> By: Live online chat with UFCs Clay Guida Nov. 15 on ProElite.com at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com (UFCmania.com) http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6169 Live online chat with UFCs Clay Guida Nov. 15 on ProElite.com at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com (UFCmania.com) Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6169 [...] Guida had to withdraw from the chat at the request of the UFC. For the skinny click here.            November 14th, [...] [...] Guida had to withdraw from the chat at the request of the UFC. For the skinny click here.            November 14th, [...]

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6168 Sam Caplan Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:17:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6168 If that's their point of view, it's a valid one. But what about Clay Guida? And what about the fans? Where do they fit in? If that’s their point of view, it’s a valid one. But what about Clay Guida? And what about the fans? Where do they fit in?

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/comment-page-1/#comment-6167 Kelvin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:08:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/15/random-rant-ufc-forces-clay-guida-to-cancel-proelitecom-chat/#comment-6167 Sam, I understand your POV...Maybe the UFC's POV is that having one of THEIR fighters on ProElite helps legitimize EliteXC. Sam, I understand your POV…Maybe the UFC’s POV is that having one of THEIR fighters on ProElite helps legitimize EliteXC.

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