Comments on: Fedor Update: Prepared to be Confused http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: koolpaw http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6527 koolpaw Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:07:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6527 im wondering, which "November,21" is in that article of M-1 russia page? its already November,21 our time here in Japan. Russian and Europian "November,21" will be 9 or 8 hours behind of ours, and November,21 will be tomorrow for you Americans. If they wlll have press-conference, Japanese medias should have gotten the announcement via fax or something. BUT No Japanese?news papers are reporting that Fedor and his manager will hold their press-conference today or tomorrow our time in Japan. or are they place this news on the TOP story of 21th morning? this is really going crazy and making us sick like that kurt angle story. im wondering, which “November,21″ is in that article of M-1 russia page? its already November,21 our time here in Japan. Russian and Europian “November,21″ will be 9 or 8 hours behind of ours, and November,21 will be tomorrow for you Americans.

If they wlll have press-conference, Japanese medias should have gotten the announcement via fax or something. BUT No Japanese?news papers are reporting that Fedor and his manager will hold their press-conference today or tomorrow our time in Japan. or are they place this news on the TOP story of 21th morning?

this is really going crazy and making us sick like that kurt angle story.

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]]> By: The Phantom http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6526 The Phantom Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:06:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6526 I am betting that they announce more than just the December 31 bout. Wouldn't that be nice? I am betting that they announce more than just the December 31 bout. Wouldn’t that be nice?

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]]> By: dice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6524 dice Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:03:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6524 To Sam Cupitt Please explain more about how this situation led you to believe that Dana had nothing to do with not signing Fedor. (since most of the evidence on why Fedor didn't fight in the UFC had little to do with "crazy russians" and more to do with how the UFC controls their fighters. Fedor wanted greater mobility in his career and strived for what we all do when it comes to work: autonomy. It seems as though this is becoming a natural trend for fighters; wanting to be able to make decisions about their career) Also in regards to Monte Cox, he has been around for along time and probably will continue to be around for a long time. I think you and Caplan seem to be jumping to conclusions before M-1 even has held the press conference. Maybe we should wait to hear what they have to say before we start making assumptions about Monte Cox's longevity and those "crazy russians". Fact is that on tagg radio Frank Trigg explained the conditions of Fedors contract (this must have been more than a month ago, it was before M-1 held the press conference at Ecko's office). And he stated that this contract allowed Fedor to be "rented out" by vadim. So if fedor signed for 2 million per fight, vadim can rent him out to someone for 2.5 million per fight and he keeps the extra half million. So I am failing to see what is so confusing about this situation since I am sure you guys knew all of this. (tagg radio is listed as one of your friends) To Sam Cupitt Please explain more about how this situation led you to believe that Dana had nothing to do with not signing Fedor. (since most of the evidence on why Fedor didn’t fight in the UFC had little to do with “crazy russians” and more to do with how the UFC controls their fighters. Fedor wanted greater mobility in his career and strived for what we all do when it comes to work: autonomy. It seems as though this is becoming a natural trend for fighters; wanting to be able to make decisions about their career)

Also in regards to Monte Cox, he has been around for along time and probably will continue to be around for a long time.

I think you and Caplan seem to be jumping to conclusions before M-1 even has held the press conference. Maybe we should wait to hear what they have to say before we start making assumptions about Monte Cox’s longevity and those “crazy russians”.

Fact is that on tagg radio Frank Trigg explained the conditions of Fedors contract (this must have been more than a month ago, it was before M-1 held the press conference at Ecko’s office). And he stated that this contract allowed Fedor to be “rented out” by vadim. So if fedor signed for 2 million per fight, vadim can rent him out to someone for 2.5 million per fight and he keeps the extra half million. So I am failing to see what is so confusing about this situation since I am sure you guys knew all of this. (tagg radio is listed as one of your friends)

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]]> By: GB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6516 GB Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:13:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6516 The way M-1 operates is, to say the least, chaotic. This sequence of denials & admissions from its representatives sure doesn’t help them project the image of a serious company, especially considering how they are aiming for a TV deal with a major network in the U.S. Plus, they need to improve their PR and/or hire someone to take care of their media relations. They can’t just rely on making ambiguous, two-line announcements via one of their multiple websites and then hope that the MMA websites spread the word. Only a few days ago, one executive who was at their big launching press conference claimed he had no idea about a NYE Fedor fight. It seems that M-1 is just a loosely assembled group of financial backers and that the person who is doing all the heavy lifting is Finkelstein. As hard as it is to believe Monte Cox is just a figurehead, it sure seems to be the case (although I guess he’ll play a more active role in the future). The way M-1 operates is, to say the least, chaotic. This sequence of denials & admissions from its representatives sure doesn’t help them project the image of a serious company, especially considering how they are aiming for a TV deal with a major network in the U.S. Plus, they need to improve their PR and/or hire someone to take care of their media relations. They can’t just rely on making ambiguous, two-line announcements via one of their multiple websites and then hope that the MMA websites spread the word. Only a few days ago, one executive who was at their big launching press conference claimed he had no idea about a NYE Fedor fight. It seems that M-1 is just a loosely assembled group of financial backers and that the person who is doing all the heavy lifting is Finkelstein. As hard as it is to believe Monte Cox is just a figurehead, it sure seems to be the case (although I guess he’ll play a more active role in the future).

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]]> By: michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6509 michael Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:03:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6509 I sent you an e-mail. Please, read it. Thanks. I sent you an e-mail. Please, read it. Thanks.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6508 Sam Caplan Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:55:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6508 <p>LOL.</p> <p>Mike, I'd be curious to know about my reporting you feel is wrong?</p> So far you haven't pointed to anything. LOL.

Mike, I’d be curious to know about my reporting you feel is wrong?

So far you haven’t pointed to anything.

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]]> By: michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6506 michael Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:52:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6506 And i don't know what your sources are, but they are obviously wrong... And i don’t know what your sources are, but they are obviously wrong…

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]]> By: michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6505 michael Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:50:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6505 I see it. I guess we should've written something like 'russian part of M-1 Global' or just 'Vadim and Fedor will be there'? That's what the meaning was. For sure there will be somebody official from M-1 Global as well. I see it. I guess we should’ve written something like ‘russian part of M-1 Global’ or just ‘Vadim and Fedor will be there’?
That’s what the meaning was.
For sure there will be somebody official from M-1 Global as well.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6502 Sam Caplan Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:45:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6502 Michael: I read well enough. There's no need for snide remarks. Sibling Entertainment Group purchased M-1 Mixfight. M-1 Mixfight was re-branded as M-1 Global. Thus, M-1 Mixfight = M-1 Global. The fact that Vadim Finkelstein is trying to represent a difference is the whole crux of the post. Michael:

I read well enough. There’s no need for snide remarks.

Sibling Entertainment Group purchased M-1 Mixfight. M-1 Mixfight was re-branded as M-1 Global. Thus, M-1 Mixfight = M-1 Global. The fact that Vadim Finkelstein is trying to represent a difference is the whole crux of the post.

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]]> By: michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/comment-page-1/#comment-6501 michael Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:38:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/20/fedor-update-prepared-to-be-confused/#comment-6501 If you read well you may notice "Mixfight M-1 will be represented by Vadim Finkelstein and Fedor Emelianenko." Where do you see 'M-1 Global'?? If you read well you may notice “Mixfight M-1 will be represented by Vadim Finkelstein and Fedor Emelianenko.”
Where do you see ‘M-1 Global’??

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