Pride is still able to be an org in Japan in 5 years down the road.

Let me put this into perspective with you.

Lets just say you went out and bought a brand new car…the car salesman really had you thinking this was a great deal and that you’re getting this huge discount and what not. So you pay the guy 15,000 for the car…but what you don’t really know is that the car was purchased wholesale from the manufacturer for 11,000. So did you really just lose 4,000 on the car? No because you “thought” you got the best deal because the car salesman tricked you into thinking that you did. The salesman needs to get paid too my friend.

Same thing goes when you buy a business…Dana just didn’t talk to the owner of Pride at the time and pull out his checkbook. You had lawyers their trying to get their money along with perhaps a business brokering salesman trying to get his cut. Alot of people got money out of the deal which is being able to be put back into economy.

Now lets say that a month later after you bought your car…you blew a rod in your engine and you didn’t get the warranty with the car because you thought you wouldn’t need it.

Did you just get burned? Yea you did…but you can put $2,000 back into the car and revive it….This is what UFC will do with Pride when the time and money is right.

Boxeo you’re thinking that UFC made this super huge mistake. It’s really not that huge of a mistake when you think about an investment that they are just sitting on when the time is right.

It’s like buying a piece of land when Real Estate is at the highest of the high. Then a year later your land isn’t worth what you paid for…but you know it’s an investment and 5-10 years down the road that land would have went up in value by double.

Everything can be considered an investment in business…Patiences is a virtue…these things take time.

I have to say that Boxeo is pretty good with some internet debate.

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are you slow…

Fighters like Sokoudjou, who only want to fight the best competition, wouldn’t choose the UFC because their LH division was extremely weak without the addition of Prides fighters

^^^ sokoudjou is going there to make the most money…he was free agent… JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER FIGHTERS WOULDVE BEEN IF PRIDE WOUDLVE DIED..

who else wouldve bought pride… anybody dumb enough not to see how messed up the organization was got what they deserved… (ufc) … if the ufc couldnt resurect pride with all its money , what makes you think any other organizaition or person could have… your acting as if the ufc didnt try to keep pride alive… they couldnt for a reason…

He could’ve fought for EliteXC or K1 but he choose not too because their stable of fighters is a joke(when compared to the UFC

^^^ he was going to go with one of them but the money wasnt right… AGAIN THE MONEY WASNT RIGHT.. not the level of competion… and what does that have to do with buying pride… had pride died by itself… where do you think all these pride fighters wouldve ended up in … THE UFC ? only place in town with deep pockets…the ufc was prides golden parachute…

please elaborate what the positives of buying pride were… at this point you are saying the pride purchase was a success…right??

here are the negatives…

1. couldnt secure top level contracts of top level fighters .. fedor… and other fighters like soduku were free agents that went to ufc regarless of pride acquisiton… where was rua gonna go… he went where there was the most money..

2. over paid for the libaray… like i said before… its cool to have a libaray to promote fighters but 20-60 million is wayy over priced…. to run old dvd’s and fox sports reruns…

3. evidently they didnt make as much money in 2nd and 3d quarter… well they did spend money on other stuff that i guess hasnt paid off yet.. could that investment failure be pride.. cant be!

4. they wanted to keep pride going like wec… but they couldnt.. cause “stuff is diffrent” over there according to dana… when the bought the wfa it was for q jackson contract.. that was it… when they bought wec it was to have another organziaion… when they bought pride it was for both.. and both were failurers….

please when you can get yourself away from the top level c.e.o. job at a fortune 500 company can you please elaborate the great success of acquiring pride for the price they did….how has the ufc reaped the benfits of overpaying for something that was falling in value…

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You’re fixated on a fictitious internet number and are unable to grasp the big picture. If the UFC hadn’t bought Pride, someone else would have. Then they wouldn’t have access to those fighter contracts. Fighters like Sokoudjou, who only want to fight the best competition, wouldn’t choose the UFC because their LH division was extremely weak without the addition of Prides fighters. He could’ve fought for EliteXC or K1 but he choose not too because their stable of fighters is a joke(when compared to the UFC).

“please explain how it was a great move… a libary, a worthless belt they disposed of and a name… for 10’s of millions of dollars….”

Keep flipping those burgers and thinking that is the only thing the UFC got out of the purchase of Pride. The list of positives far outweigh the small list of negatives.

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such depth huh…

bispbing v. evans… as a main event…. wow such depth

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yeah they were able to pick up the contracts of pride fighters other than the best fighter of them all fedor…

again.. the question becomes could they have had the top 8 of 10 heavies and the top 10 of the 10 light heavies and 8 (wtf) middlewieghts WITH OUT HAVING TO SHELL OUT MONEY FOR A WORTHLESS ORGANZIAIOTN AND ITS LIBAary

YOU think them gettin sodoku was part of the pride acquisiton… he was a free agent and went to the ufc… please feel free to name the other 7 middle middlewights other than hendo that have strengthen the ufc mw dividison…

here is a clue… could they have gotten all this talent without wasting money in pride… or do you think 16 mil (please expalin how you know this amount considering in the article its anywhere from 20 to 60 mil and zuffa according to the article has never disclosed it cause they are private) or 60 mil was a great move…

please explain how it was a great move… a libary, a worthless belt they disposed of and a name… for 10’s of millions of dollars….

All of the best fighters in the world, with the exception of a couple, are now under contract to the UFC.

^^^ they didnt need to waste money to buy pride to acheive this goal^^^^

Dana White had very little to do with the purchase of Pride. Why don’t you take the time to actually get a clue before talking out of your ass.

^^^wtf who had to do with buying pride… ferrita… he comes out of ownership position to run day to day ops in place of dana…. yeah thats beliveable..lol

whatever the amount was they paid you do realize that their 2nd and 3rd fiscal quarters were not that good FOR SOME REASON.. and it wasnt because they were not selling out arenas… SO how do you sell out arenas and not make as much money as they expected… could it be shelling out money for stuff that is overpriced and worthless…

dana overpaid for a depricating asset and got played cause he didnt even get what he paid for… could saved himself 16 or 60 mil by just watching pride die without a tv contract and then swoop up and buy the libary and the existing free agents and be in the same place there in now except millions richer… YEAH HE DIDNT BLOW IT…

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Here’s a fact for you. They didn’t pay 60 million for Pride. They paid 16 million.

“couldnt get pride fighters contracts transfered … failure”

UFC now has:

8 of the top 10 heavies
10 of the top 10 light heavies
8 of the MW

The depth of all their divisions is incredible and only because they were able to pick up the contracts of Pride fighters. All of the best fighters in the world, with the exception of a couple, are now under contract to the UFC.

“the fact that they didnt make a super profit should concern people cause its not the sport or evnents thats a failure but management decisons of the ufc mainly dana ….”

Dana White had very little to do with the purchase of Pride. Why don’t you take the time to actually get a clue before talking out of your ass.

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but we do know that the contracts , dana thought they were transferable.. the same thing occured when they bought the wfa for the sole reason of acquiring q. jackson.. they wanted to the same thing with bigger stars like silva, fedor…

as far as your 60 million dollar write off…. thats bad buisness no matter what.. and it wasnt even like a freak occurance.. it was that THEY DIDNT DO THIER HOMEWORK and got burned….

this isnt signing a 50 million dollar pitcher and he blows out his arm in spring training..THATS A CALCULATED RISK ..

this is more like overpaying a pitcher with tons of history of shoulder problems the max contract on the assumption every thing is okay…

its cool if its a fighter like cro cop who has been a expensive dissapointment.. but you cant gauge that…

but 60 million for what…video … i wonder how much people think zuffa made this year… hope you guys arent think its in the billions..lol

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Lol @ this. The UFC’s profits are up and up a lot. They’d probably be off the chart if they weren’t spending money to expand.

^^^ WHEN WILL THE EXPANISON PAY OFF ITS 60 MILLION DOLLAR EXPENSE

they didnt expand pride… failure
couldnt get pride fighters contracts transfered … failure
essentailly paid 60 mil for a libaray with no other real competition…super failure

the fact that they didnt make a super profit should concern people cause its not the sport or evnents thats a failure but management decisons of the ufc mainly dana ….

60 mil is lot of money for something they will never see become successful in any way…PRIDE

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Yea the UFC didn’t get:

Rampage got rampage through wfa
Shogun
African assassin just got him through “free agency” not through pride acqui
Henderson got him through pride cause they recongized the belts
Ryo dont know
Cro Cop didnt they sign him before pride was sold
Werdum ???

they tried to get fedor through the contract he had with pride.. but fedors was a non exlusive deal that made him a free agent.. just like sodko and just like a guy dennis kang (who the ufc didnt want but werent gonna get anyway)

here is the thing.. they didnt pay 60 mil just for the libaray… why would anybody do that.. no money in it… dvd sales.. fox sports reruns… no they made that deal cause they wanted to keep pride moving and INHERIT ALL THOSE CONTRACTS … but they got swindled and were stuck with worthless contracts and a video libaray…

does anybody think the lbaray is worth 60 mi.. i dont think it would be worth 10 mil IF YOU DONT HAVE THE CAPTIAL AND MONEY TO MAKE SOMETHING WITH IT ( BY SIGNING TOP TALENT) and no other organization had deeper pockets than ufc.. so they were in competion with themselves…

they didnt buy pride for the name just to throw it away.. they wanted the orgaization to survive like the wec.. but they got ripped off… stuff is done different in japan i guess….

and throwing 60 million dollars away is not exactly a great move or a move that can be just written off as expenses.. fact is they could be just as popular now (sell outs , great fighters , lots of buzz) WITHOUT DROPPING 60 MIL ON VIDOES… horrible move cause it doesnt beneift ufc only hurt them especally this year moneywise…

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Yea the UFC didn’t get:

Rampage
Shogun
African assassin
Henderson
Ryo
Cro Cop
Werdum

These are just off the top of my head that I can think of.

They got alot of prospects…and some of them haven’t performed…but you know they are adding to the hype of UFC and bringing on bigger crowds.

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