Comments on: Thoughts on TUF 7 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Fri, 25 May 2012 23:20:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7350 Sam Cupitt Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:20:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7350 I was previously an advocate for Wanderlei and Rampage as coaches but then I thought about it and I didn't want either of them not fighting for an extra period of time. Yeah I know putting Tanner in the house would be a bit reckless but It would be a good way to get him back in the public consciousness. But yeah, I don't think he'd want to and it'd be too risky. Joe Rogan to host the show would be sweet. Dana White probably wouldn't give up his role though. I was previously an advocate for Wanderlei and Rampage as coaches but then I thought about it and I didn’t want either of them not fighting for an extra period of time.

Yeah I know putting Tanner in the house would be a bit reckless but It would be a good way to get him back in the public consciousness. But yeah, I don’t think he’d want to and it’d be too risky.

Joe Rogan to host the show would be sweet. Dana White probably wouldn’t give up his role though.

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7348 screwface Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:19:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7348 if worse came to worse that would be an awesome idea, usa vs brazil. brazil has a lot of untapped talent. true the language barrier would kinda suck. but if they recruited half from brazil and half from usa just imagine the reality we would get out of these dudes in 1 house, sides would clearly be taken and drama would unfold like never before. i hope dana reads these, cuz he seems to know a lot of what blogs and forums say for a guy who hates the hardcore fans. is that not what we are :) if worse came to worse that would be an awesome idea, usa vs brazil. brazil has a lot of untapped talent. true the language barrier would kinda suck. but if they recruited half from brazil and half from usa just imagine the reality we would get out of these dudes in 1 house, sides would clearly be taken and drama would unfold like never before. i hope dana reads these, cuz he seems to know a lot of what blogs and forums say for a guy who hates the hardcore fans. is that not what we are :)

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]]> By: Rln http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7347 Rln Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:46:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7347 "Wanderlei would be an awful choice as coach. TUF needs coaches that wouldn’t need a translator. The language barrier would be a major issue. As a viewer, I want to see Wanderlei fight, not garble through the english language." Wandy's English is very good these days. He's spent a lot of time learning it and it shows. US vs. Brazil for the next TUF would see some good fireworks. “Wanderlei would be an awful choice as coach. TUF needs coaches that wouldn’t need a translator. The language barrier would be a major issue. As a viewer, I want to see Wanderlei fight, not garble through the english language.”

Wandy’s English is very good these days. He’s spent a lot of time learning it and it shows. US vs. Brazil for the next TUF would see some good fireworks.

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]]> By: el boxeo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7346 el boxeo Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:45:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7346 what they should do is have the TUF be current... or like a week behind... not this taping 4 months in advance and then airing it... DO THEY NEED TO DO THAT MUCH EDITING... other shows that are pretty much live... are reality shows like big brother... and even the hatton v/ mayweather 24/7 works so well cause its so close to the actual date of the fight... imagine being able to see these fights live...or at least a week from really happening... i can pretty much gauge how long the fight will be based on when the fight starts ex. if the fights starts at 10:50 then i know its a first round ko... they probally waste more money editing 4 a couple of months than they would having to show this fights either live or at least a week apart... make the fights more current and live and everybody will tune in to see the unexpected... that would be enought to put TUF into another straosphere ..and why the hell are they being placed in solitary confinement... who cares.. let them have tv. or go out.. or contact with whomever... its an unrealistic thing they make the fighters do...and all for what so they can go crazy and break walls,,, what they should do is have the TUF be current… or like a week behind… not this taping 4 months in advance and then airing it… DO THEY NEED TO DO THAT MUCH EDITING…

other shows that are pretty much live… are reality shows like big brother… and even the hatton v/ mayweather 24/7 works so well cause its so close to the actual date of the fight…

imagine being able to see these fights live…or at least a week from really happening…

i can pretty much gauge how long the fight will be based on when the fight starts ex. if the fights starts at 10:50 then i know its a first round ko…

they probally waste more money editing 4 a couple of months than they would having to show this fights either live or at least a week apart…

make the fights more current and live and everybody will tune in to see the unexpected… that would be enought to put TUF into another straosphere ..and why the hell are they being placed in solitary confinement… who cares.. let them have tv. or go out.. or contact with whomever… its an unrealistic thing they make the fighters do…and all for what so they can go crazy and break walls,,,

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]]> By: Adam Morgan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7342 Adam Morgan Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:45:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7342 Bringing in Rogan to host the show would be awesome. He's a perfect fit. He's done reality television and he is a face of the UFC. Bringing in Rogan to host the show would be awesome. He’s a perfect fit. He’s done reality television and he is a face of the UFC.

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]]> By: Eric http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7341 Eric Sat, 01 Dec 2007 20:38:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7341 Good ideas, hopefully they materialize. Tanner needs to police himself and not have others makking sure that he isn't set up for failure. He is an adult and should be accountable for his actions. If he is in the house and there is alcohol present, he needs to steer clear. Wanderlei would be an awful choice as coach. TUF needs coaches that wouldn't need a translator. The language barrier would be a major issue. As a viewer, I want to see Wanderlei fight, not garble through the english language. I hope the team concept is scrapped. It comes down to every man for himself, so why portray it as a team when clearly, everyone should be out for themselves. They should have 2 coaches who coach everyone. If the gym isn't big enough to house all 16 fighters during training, they should rotate and different guys should train at different times every day. (Fighter A trains with Fighters B & C, but then the next day, A trains with B & D) I hope this isn't too confusing. If it is, oh well. Good ideas, hopefully they materialize.

Tanner needs to police himself and not have others makking sure that he isn’t set up for failure. He is an adult and should be accountable for his actions. If he is in the house and there is alcohol present, he needs to steer clear.

Wanderlei would be an awful choice as coach. TUF needs coaches that wouldn’t need a translator. The language barrier would be a major issue. As a viewer, I want to see Wanderlei fight, not garble through the english language.

I hope the team concept is scrapped. It comes down to every man for himself, so why portray it as a team when clearly, everyone should be out for themselves. They should have 2 coaches who coach everyone. If the gym isn’t big enough to house all 16 fighters during training, they should rotate and different guys should train at different times every day. (Fighter A trains with Fighters B & C, but then the next day, A trains with B & D) I hope this isn’t too confusing. If it is, oh well.

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]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7338 bubbafat Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:40:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7338 of course they're gonna have Rampage as a coach on the next one. and of course they're gonna make the other coach a title contender. how else can they tie up ALL their championship belts into limbo for an extended period of time? don't you know that now there has to be an interim champ in every division. Rampage vs The Spider for the 205 belt TUF 7, that should screw things up real good. of course they’re gonna have Rampage as a coach on the next one. and of course they’re gonna make the other coach a title contender. how else can they tie up ALL their championship belts into limbo for an extended period of time? don’t you know that now there has to be an interim champ in every division. Rampage vs The Spider for the 205 belt TUF 7, that should screw things up real good.

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7337 screwface Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:05:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7337 id like them to mix it up, put all weights in the house similar to season 1. rampage and wanderlei silva as coaches would be fun too. and they need to fix the whole team members forced to fight each other thing or change the whole team concept a bit. maybe alternate fighters with coaches and let fighters choose other team members to corner them instead of coaches. just quick thoughts maybe some1 has a better idea. but the whole team thing doesnt seem to make sense as a whole when it comes down to 1 fighter fighting to win the contract. might make a better reality show when every1 views all fighters as thier competition from the beginning. every man for himself imo :p id like them to mix it up, put all weights in the house similar to season 1. rampage and wanderlei silva as coaches would be fun too. and they need to fix the whole team members forced to fight each other thing or change the whole team concept a bit. maybe alternate fighters with coaches and let fighters choose other team members to corner them instead of coaches. just quick thoughts maybe some1 has a better idea. but the whole team thing doesnt seem to make sense as a whole when it comes down to 1 fighter fighting to win the contract. might make a better reality show when every1 views all fighters as thier competition from the beginning. every man for himself imo :p

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]]> By: Dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7335 Dizzle Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:53:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7335 I say they bring in Joe Rogan to host the show. I say they bring in Joe Rogan to host the show.

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]]> By: Dave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7331 Dave Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:58:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7331 I agree with most of what you said, but I have a couple of thoughts. Firstly as already mentioned, Evan Tanner is probably too mentally fragile to be put in that enviroment. Secondly, The middle weight division needs most fixing, therefore have a lightheavy show, with a view to having guys cutting to middleweight after the show. Alot of guys have improved during their time on the show, but they needed to drop a weight class to hold their own against top level competition. I agree with most of what you said, but I have a couple of thoughts.

Firstly as already mentioned, Evan Tanner is probably too mentally fragile to be put in that enviroment.

Secondly, The middle weight division needs most fixing, therefore have a lightheavy show, with a view to having guys cutting to middleweight after the show. Alot of guys have improved during their time on the show, but they needed to drop a weight class to hold their own against top level competition.

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]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/comment-page-1/#comment-7330 Jeremy Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:57:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/01/thoughts-on-tuf-7/#comment-7330 Not a bad plan there sam. I think having Evan Tanner in a house with nothing to do but drink might be dangerous though. Middleweights are certainly the way they must go to me. That division is so weak and in need of some help. The one thing that has bothered me is that they seem to be taking on way to many guys who are more or less personalities and not truly mma fighters at this point. I'd much rather them get more established fighters, for example Jason Day, or someone like that. These guys are ready to burst onto the UFC anyways, might as well give them good exposure prior to becoming UFC fighters. Not a bad plan there sam. I think having Evan Tanner in a house with nothing to do but drink might be dangerous though.

Middleweights are certainly the way they must go to me. That division is so weak and in need of some help. The one thing that has bothered me is that they seem to be taking on way to many guys who are more or less personalities and not truly mma fighters at this point. I’d much rather them get more established fighters, for example Jason Day, or someone like that. These guys are ready to burst onto the UFC anyways, might as well give them good exposure prior to becoming UFC fighters.

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