Comments on: Ryan Gracie dies at the age of 33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Piscal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-38676 Piscal Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:09:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-38676 Innocent until proven guilty Innocent until proven guilty

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8875 Andrew Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:22:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8875 Sooooo dramatic. Think with your head........sooooooooooooooooooooo dramatic. Here let me speed this up..... I say...no, I am being apathetic! and then You say....more like pathetic! and then I say...Your pathetic. and then You say....no your pathetic. and then it goes on and on and on....Why? Because love to Debate. I am going to agree to disagree. I stated my opinions and that is all they are. Opinions. I hear yours as well. Dizzle I am glad we could finally agree. take care gentleman. I will keep an eye on this post to read any reply. Merry Christmas to ALL! Sooooo dramatic. Think with your head……..sooooooooooooooooooooo dramatic.
Here let me speed this up…..

I say…no, I am being apathetic! and then
You say….more like pathetic! and then
I say…Your pathetic. and then
You say….no your pathetic. and then
it goes on and on and on….Why?

Because love to Debate. I am going to agree to disagree. I stated my opinions and that is all they are. Opinions. I hear yours as well.

Dizzle I am glad we could finally agree. take care gentleman. I will keep an eye on this post to read any reply. Merry Christmas to ALL!

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8787 Evan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:06:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8787 Andrew...think with your head. You are being so dramatic. Andrew…think with your head. You are being so dramatic.

]]> By: Dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8778 Dizzle Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:22:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8778 Finally something I agree with you on Andrew! =D Finally something I agree with you on Andrew! =D

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8767 Andrew Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:16:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8767 No, you know what? You guys are right! I am glad he is dead. it brings me joy that he is nothing more than a rotting corpse. No, you know what? You guys are right! I am glad he is dead. it brings me joy that he is nothing more than a rotting corpse.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8762 Evan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:54:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8762 Andrew You ned to stop associating your sister with what happend to this guy. Andrew

You ned to stop associating your sister with what happend to this guy.

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8758 Andrew Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:23:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8758 Ooooooh....sheeeesh. Ouch Evan. Wow, ummmm. Not sure what to say. I mean....damn. U're good. Ooooooh….sheeeesh. Ouch Evan. Wow, ummmm. Not sure what to say. I mean….damn. U’re good.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8752 Evan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:49:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8752 Andrew.....there is a difference between driving and doing drugs. One is a slight risk thats comes with living in the modern age the other is a dumb risk. Now go make a Britney Spears youtube video for him. Andrew…..there is a difference between driving and doing drugs.

One is a slight risk thats comes with living in the modern age the other is a dumb risk.

Now go make a Britney Spears youtube video for him.

]]> By: Dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8749 Dizzle Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:15:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8749 Pretty much Andrew. I don't have time for low life scum bags. You have 3 strikes with me...and the third strike I just don't bother to waste my time with an individual. I have a hard enough time paying my own bills to have to worry about someone else. I have no remorse after the fact that you get let down when trying to help a family member out. A saying that my father has told me my whole life "you can only help the ones who want to help themselves" Everyone has a "choice." Pretty much Andrew. I don’t have time for low life scum bags. You have 3 strikes with me…and the third strike I just don’t bother to waste my time with an individual. I have a hard enough time paying my own bills to have to worry about someone else.

I have no remorse after the fact that you get let down when trying to help a family member out.

A saying that my father has told me my whole life “you can only help the ones who want to help themselves”

Everyone has a “choice.”

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8747 Andrew Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:49:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8747 That's no different than saying you have no remorse for a person that was killed in a car crash...Well...screw them. They are the ones that decided to get in the car in the first place, right? You assume risks with everything you do and sometimes those risks whether getting in a car or plane or even taking medication was advised with the best of intentions. My sister was prescribed something necessary at the time. She didn't know the dangers until she stopped taking them and it was too late. The addiction was there. the body needed it but the brain didn't want it. the body drove the brain crazy and gave in. Thank God your brother was given four years of that life style and lived in the first place. No thanks to you that is....No remorse, right? Just let the bastard die in a gutter right? You don't care for him...right? Oh but wait...he turned his life around. Now we can love him because he is normal and not embarrassing us. Why was it the worst four years for you? You have no remorse for those type of people. it's not what your brother was but what he could be. It's not what Ryan Gracie was but what he could have been. Bottom line it is a tragedy that drugs took a hold of him. He is a human being...a life. That’s no different than saying you have no remorse for a person that was killed in a car crash…Well…screw them. They are the ones that decided to get in the car in the first place, right? You assume risks with everything you do and sometimes those risks whether getting in a car or plane or even taking medication was advised with the best of intentions. My sister was prescribed something necessary at the time. She didn’t know the dangers until she stopped taking them and it was too late. The addiction was there. the body needed it but the brain didn’t want it. the body drove the brain crazy and gave in.

Thank God your brother was given four years of that life style and lived in the first place. No thanks to you that is….No remorse, right? Just let the bastard die in a gutter right? You don’t care for him…right? Oh but wait…he turned his life around. Now we can love him because he is normal and not embarrassing us. Why was it the worst four years for you? You have no remorse for those type of people. it’s not what your brother was but what he could be. It’s not what Ryan Gracie was but what he could have been. Bottom line it is a tragedy that drugs took a hold of him. He is a human being…a life.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8739 Evan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:50:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8739 What drove him there? Some people like to live that way. Plain and simple. What drove him there? Some people like to live that way. Plain and simple.

]]> By: Dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8738 Dizzle Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:41:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8738 Andrew...like I said you make your own decisions. The doctor prescribes you something...you have a choice to take the medication. If she thought it was bad she should have talked ot her dr. and got something less potent prescribed. I have no remorse for heavy drug abusers...my brother was on crack cocain for 4 years of his life.and I have to add it was the worst 4 years for our family not knowing where he was at and what he was doing. He turned his life around based off of right decisions and the motivation to do better. Nobody make decisions for me...I make my own decisions based apon facts that I gather through life. Andrew…like I said you make your own decisions. The doctor prescribes you something…you have a choice to take the medication. If she thought it was bad she should have talked ot her dr. and got something less potent prescribed.

I have no remorse for heavy drug abusers…my brother was on crack cocain for 4 years of his life.and I have to add it was the worst 4 years for our family not knowing where he was at and what he was doing.

He turned his life around based off of right decisions and the motivation to do better.

Nobody make decisions for me…I make my own decisions based apon facts that I gather through life.

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8734 Andrew Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:28:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8734 Take my sister for instance.... She took pain pills because of an accident. She was prescribed oxycottin (sp) and she got addicted. She tried to stop but it kept sucking her back in. She moved on to more potent drugs and became a victim of addiction. She died from an accidental drug overdose. You guys are totally missing the point in the first place as to the circumstances that drive people to do what they do. There are voids in peoples lives that drive them to make bad decisions whether it be for attention or acceptance or even numbness of pain. I have lived through it and seen it first hand. These aren't my opinions they are facts. You say he chose the lifestyle...but why? Why did he choose it. What drove him there? Do you think as a kid he saw himself in a jail cell convulsing not being able to breathe slipping into a comma and dying? Too bad my kids have to live in such a insensitive world. No compasion for the lost whatsoever. Take my sister for instance…. She took pain pills because of an accident. She was prescribed oxycottin (sp) and she got addicted. She tried to stop but it kept sucking her back in. She moved on to more potent drugs and became a victim of addiction. She died from an accidental drug overdose. You guys are totally missing the point in the first place as to the circumstances that drive people to do what they do. There are voids in peoples lives that drive them to make bad decisions whether it be for attention or acceptance or even numbness of pain. I have lived through it and seen it first hand. These aren’t my opinions they are facts. You say he chose the lifestyle…but why? Why did he choose it. What drove him there? Do you think as a kid he saw himself in a jail cell convulsing not being able to breathe slipping into a comma and dying? Too bad my kids have to live in such a insensitive world. No compasion for the lost whatsoever.

]]> By: Dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8645 Dizzle Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:25:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8645 Andrew, For every action there is a reaction. I'm sure no one put a gun to his head and made him make the choices that he had made. If you hang out with crack heads...you become a crack head. Andrew,

For every action there is a reaction.

I’m sure no one put a gun to his head and made him make the choices that he had made. If you hang out with crack heads…you become a crack head.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8643 Evan Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:11:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8643 Andrew Perhaps you need to re-read this write up and the comments. "cocaine, crack and marijuana." I'm going to go ahead and safely assume he chose to use them and it wasn't by accident...Once again, he chose this life and the risks. Andrew

Perhaps you need to re-read this write up and the comments.

“cocaine, crack and marijuana.”

I’m going to go ahead and safely assume he chose to use them and it wasn’t by accident…Once again, he chose this life and the risks.

]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8641 Andrew Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:14:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8641 Those of you who have no compassion for life I say this....I feel sorry for you. It is a terrible thing to become addicted to a narcotic. Do you know the depth of sadness some people go through just to mask their pain with numbness? Do you have any clue to the amount of people that accidentally get addicted to pain meds and then need something more and more and more.....then your drug owns you. Your family disowns you. The public hates you. He was a life. He was at one time an innocent child. Something somewhere went wrong in his life regardless if it was a choice. I don't condone what he did. I am sorry for his fate and his families loss. I only hope others can learn from his mistakes. Peace! Those of you who have no compassion for life I say this….I feel sorry for you. It is a terrible thing to become addicted to a narcotic. Do you know the depth of sadness some people go through just to mask their pain with numbness? Do you have any clue to the amount of people that accidentally get addicted to pain meds and then need something more and more and more…..then your drug owns you. Your family disowns you. The public hates you. He was a life. He was at one time an innocent child. Something somewhere went wrong in his life regardless if it was a choice. I don’t condone what he did. I am sorry for his fate and his families loss. I only hope others can learn from his mistakes. Peace!

]]> By: Scotchontherocks http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8507 Scotchontherocks Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:24:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8507 I feel sorry for his brothers. Renzo's a hell of a guy, and I hate to see him hurt. I feel sorry for his brothers. Renzo’s a hell of a guy, and I hate to see him hurt.

]]> By: Grape Knee High http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8470 Grape Knee High Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:53:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8470 By all accounts, Ryan Gracie sounded like he was a real scumbag. You wouldn't feel sorry for him if he were some random idiot that did the exact same things, but since he's a Gracie, we're supposed to have sympathy? Sounds to me like he deserved his fate. By all accounts, Ryan Gracie sounded like he was a real scumbag. You wouldn’t feel sorry for him if he were some random idiot that did the exact same things, but since he’s a Gracie, we’re supposed to have sympathy? Sounds to me like he deserved his fate.

]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8469 HexRei Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:49:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8469 I guess I'm just a soft touch. I guess I’m just a soft touch.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/comment-page-1/#comment-8468 Evan Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:51:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/16/ryan-gracie-dies-at-the-age-of-33/#comment-8468 HexRei Why not? Its the end result of the lifestyle he chose. A car with a family's inside getting slammed by a drunk driver and dying doesn't deserve to die but it happens all the time. They didn't chose to be hit by a drunk driver. Some guy living with his life full throttle like this chose his death. I doubt he was so ignorant to not know what he was risking. Its sad that someone pissed away their life like that but I wouldn't feel sorry for him. HexRei

Why not? Its the end result of the lifestyle he chose. A car with a family’s inside getting slammed by a drunk driver and dying doesn’t deserve to die but it happens all the time. They didn’t chose to be hit by a drunk driver.

Some guy living with his life full throttle like this chose his death. I doubt he was so ignorant to not know what he was risking.

Its sad that someone pissed away their life like that but I wouldn’t feel sorry for him.

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