Comments on: M-1 made an offer to UFC for Couture vs. Fedor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:11:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: platypus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8993 platypus Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:09:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8993 wats mma ? sounds like some online multiplayer game. are you guys talking about that ultimate fighting cage warrior stuffz ? wats mma ? sounds like some online multiplayer game. are you guys talking about that ultimate fighting cage warrior stuffz ?

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8981 Evan Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:07:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8981 armyguy is correct. Just look at that recent article where that spare Matthew Mconaughey got hurt filimg that MMA movie.. Did anyone call it a MMA movie? No. Every write up had "Ultimate Fighting Style." Go ahead and look it up. Nobody says MMA. Not CNN, not the AP story, not yahoo. armyguy is correct.

Just look at that recent article where that spare Matthew Mconaughey got hurt filimg that MMA movie..

Did anyone call it a MMA movie? No. Every write up had “Ultimate Fighting Style.”

Go ahead and look it up. Nobody says MMA. Not CNN, not the AP story, not yahoo.

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]]> By: ArmyGuy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8980 ArmyGuy Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:59:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8980 UFC is not underground. "MMA" still pretty much is. The fan base is growing, but I think you are deluding yourself if you think mainstream America knows anything but UFC and maybe that there are some freakshows on the TapOut show. Just to prove it, I just polled my neighborhood grocers... :) Merry Christmas. UFC is not underground. “MMA” still pretty much is. The fan base is growing, but I think you are deluding yourself if you think mainstream America knows anything but UFC and maybe that there are some freakshows on the TapOut show.

Just to prove it, I just polled my neighborhood grocers…

:)

Merry Christmas.

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]]> By: Dirty White Boy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8948 Dirty White Boy Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:54:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8948 Its like this either they allow it and make half the money or they dont allow it and in 8 months the fight goes down and they get 100 percent of phuck all. Clearly the reason for not allowing it has nothing to do with money its all about pride not the org Its like this either they allow it and make half the money or they dont allow it and in 8 months the fight goes down and they get 100 percent of phuck all. Clearly the reason for not allowing it has nothing to do with money its all about pride not the org

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]]> By: godzillad http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8945 godzillad Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:44:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8945 UFC isn't the only thing that is watched. I can go to the bagger at the grocery store and talk about Fedor. I can walk up to the Janitor at my University and talk about how Gomi is afraid to fight Americans. You guys are in your little bubble, acting like MMA is so secret and you're special because you know who Nakamura was at UFC 76. Guess what: everyone else knew too. Quit pretending like MMA is underground still. You and all the other people on the internet act like it is, go out and talk to real people in the real world and you'll know that things aren't like post #39. UFC isn’t the only thing that is watched. I can go to the bagger at the grocery store and talk about Fedor. I can walk up to the Janitor at my University and talk about how Gomi is afraid to fight Americans. You guys are in your little bubble, acting like MMA is so secret and you’re special because you know who Nakamura was at UFC 76. Guess what: everyone else knew too. Quit pretending like MMA is underground still. You and all the other people on the internet act like it is, go out and talk to real people in the real world and you’ll know that things aren’t like post #39.

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]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8941 Tommy Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:22:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8941 So fine, just do it in the cage. So fine, just do it in the cage.

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]]> By: ttt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8936 ttt Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:07:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8936 everybody's just hoping deep deep down that the fan inside dana and the fertitas will override their business sense and make this happen ... but who are we kidding, it's all about randy's kind of "respect" everybody’s just hoping deep deep down that the fan inside dana and the fertitas will override their business sense and make this happen … but who are we kidding, it’s all about randy’s kind of “respect”

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]]> By: ArmyGuy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8896 ArmyGuy Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:17:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8896 I want to see this fight too, but let's be reasonable - we are all MMA fans. Most people only watch UFC. In fact, who do you know that even says "MMA" that isn't a hard core fan? People say "Ultimate Fighter" or "Ultimate Fighting". I'm going to go a step further - "Fedor" means absolutely nothing to the average fan. They would pay twice as much to see Ortiz or Liddell fight Couture! The success of this sport is based purely on the marketing ability of the UFC. And they are selfish - companies are supposed to be selfish when it comes to the competition - that is what makes a firm successful and it is in everyone's best interest that companies act in this manner. Randy signed a bad contract. His bad. The fight'll happen eventually. But realistically, put it personal terms - if you had spent your life savings to make your company successful and it finally was - why in the hell would you open the door for anyone else? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'd try to crush them at every turn. That's just good business. Notice no major HDNET or IFL fight happens without a UFC event on the same night (some small exceptions). The common fan is ALWAYS going to watch UFC. To go one step further and turn the tables, the UFC had the opportunity to kill the possibility of any other promotions even having a chance by treating their fighters a little better and paying them a little more. The fact that they didn't/don't is what is allowing these other promotions to attract top talent. Now that Cuban is in the game - there is a real threat. He has what - 4 promotions on HDNET this month alone? PLus 6.2 billion in personal assets, not to mention the assets of his businesses, plus a successful background in sports marketing on a national level. That's the business decision I think the UFC will wish they could take back in a year or two... I realize that was a gross digression from the topic, but it is the end of the work week before Christmas... I want to see this fight too, but let’s be reasonable – we are all MMA fans.

Most people only watch UFC. In fact, who do you know that even says “MMA” that isn’t a hard core fan? People say “Ultimate Fighter” or “Ultimate Fighting”. I’m going to go a step further – “Fedor” means absolutely nothing to the average fan. They would pay twice as much to see Ortiz or Liddell fight Couture!

The success of this sport is based purely on the marketing ability of the UFC. And they are selfish – companies are supposed to be selfish when it comes to the competition – that is what makes a firm successful and it is in everyone’s best interest that companies act in this manner.

Randy signed a bad contract. His bad. The fight’ll happen eventually.

But realistically, put it personal terms – if you had spent your life savings to make your company successful and it finally was – why in the hell would you open the door for anyone else? I sure as hell wouldn’t. I’d try to crush them at every turn. That’s just good business. Notice no major HDNET or IFL fight happens without a UFC event on the same night (some small exceptions). The common fan is ALWAYS going to watch UFC.

To go one step further and turn the tables, the UFC had the opportunity to kill the possibility of any other promotions even having a chance by treating their fighters a little better and paying them a little more. The fact that they didn’t/don’t is what is allowing these other promotions to attract top talent. Now that Cuban is in the game – there is a real threat. He has what – 4 promotions on HDNET this month alone? PLus 6.2 billion in personal assets, not to mention the assets of his businesses, plus a successful background in sports marketing on a national level. That’s the business decision I think the UFC will wish they could take back in a year or two…

I realize that was a gross digression from the topic, but it is the end of the work week before Christmas…

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8882 Evan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:17:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8882 Lets not being logic into the situation godzillad. Its much preferred to simply blame everything on the UFC and Dana without thinking. Lets not being logic into the situation godzillad. Its much preferred to simply blame everything on the UFC and Dana without thinking.

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]]> By: godzillad http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-8877 godzillad Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:46:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/#comment-8877 ''And don’t forget folks…Couture had his chance to fight Fedor in Bodog (April, $3mil)'' Yes, Fedor wanted to fight a 43 year old man a month after he had just gone twenty five minutes. Real honorable there, champ. If Fedor wanted Randy he would have came to America, just like how Wanderlei came because he wanted Chuck. ”And don’t forget folks…Couture had his chance to fight Fedor in Bodog (April, $3mil)”

Yes, Fedor wanted to fight a 43 year old man a month after he had just gone twenty five minutes. Real honorable there, champ. If Fedor wanted Randy he would have came to America, just like how Wanderlei came because he wanted Chuck.

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