Comments on: Sean Sherk on B.J. Penn: “The guy is a pothead” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Fri, 25 May 2012 23:49:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: hskrs http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-12002 hskrs Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:56:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-12002 I'm pretty sure the FDA doesn 't monitor supplements. Most supplements fall under an area of manufacture's responsibility. What's in them, and what's said on the labels (claims/ingredients) are not "approved" in any way by the FDA. If there is a question in a legal suit, as in Shrek's case, the FDA can get involved. I think Sherk is as big and his record so dominant, because he's probably been juicing for years. I remember one of the first times I saw him fight, I was amazed how huge he was. And about the "contamination", that's crazy. If it might have poison in it, would he still take it because he needs it? Years of juicing, I bet. If a really fat guy always says he doesn't eat junk food, and one day you catch him in the kitchen stuffing his face with chips, you won't believe that he hasn't and doesn't eat all the time like that. That's how it is with Sherk, except it a huge muscular guy and steroids. I’m pretty sure the FDA doesn ‘t monitor supplements. Most supplements fall under an area of manufacture’s responsibility. What’s in them, and what’s said on the labels (claims/ingredients) are not “approved” in any way by the FDA. If there is a question in a legal suit, as in Shrek’s case, the FDA can get involved.

I think Sherk is as big and his record so dominant, because he’s probably been juicing for years. I remember one of the first times I saw him fight, I was amazed how huge he was. And about the “contamination”, that’s crazy. If it might have poison in it, would he still take it because he needs it? Years of juicing, I bet. If a really fat guy always says he doesn’t eat junk food, and one day you catch him in the kitchen stuffing his face with chips, you won’t believe that he hasn’t and doesn’t eat all the time like that. That’s how it is with Sherk, except it a huge muscular guy and steroids.

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]]> By: dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9390 dizzle Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:59:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9390 Why are they so uptight about Weed? If anything Weed would make you lose a fight...not win. Why are they so uptight about Weed?

If anything Weed would make you lose a fight…not win.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9389 HexRei Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9389 And Tommy, yes some legal substances are banned, but they are clearly defined in the sanctioning body's rules (at least in Nevada and California, not sure about elsewhere). The FDA is supposed to ensure that when you take an over the counter supplement, it contains what the label says. If illegal steroids are popping up in OTC supplements then the FDA has failed. And Tommy, yes some legal substances are banned, but they are clearly defined in the sanctioning body’s rules (at least in Nevada and California, not sure about elsewhere). The FDA is supposed to ensure that when you take an over the counter supplement, it contains what the label says. If illegal steroids are popping up in OTC supplements then the FDA has failed.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9388 HexRei Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:32:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9388 Ah, ok. I thought that ensuring that supplements were labelled correctly and such was part of the FDA's job. My bad, I guess fighters should just not take any supplements just in case then. Ah, ok. I thought that ensuring that supplements were labelled correctly and such was part of the FDA’s job. My bad, I guess fighters should just not take any supplements just in case then.

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]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9383 Tommy Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:40:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9383 No Hex it is not. Beau is correct. See even legal products are banned from use for fighters. Sherk knows that and still wants to use his drugs. Why the hell would someone take over 20 different enhancement products anyway? Yeah he's natural. No Hex it is not. Beau is correct. See even legal products are banned from use for fighters. Sherk knows that and still wants to use his drugs. Why the hell would someone take over 20 different enhancement products anyway? Yeah he’s natural.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9381 HexRei Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:35:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9381 karat: most farms use chemical fertilizers these days, and the curing process certainly isn't natural... Beau: isn't if the FDA's job to ensure that supplements sold in the US are steroid free? Should Sherk really have to worry about taking legal supplements? At the very least, the santioning committees need to take into account the fact that apparently even someone using only FDA-approved "steroid-free" supplements can have a sample show positive for steroids. It certainly belies the assumption that anyone with a positive sample must have knowling taken banned substances, which is what everyone believed prior to this year. karat: most farms use chemical fertilizers these days, and the curing process certainly isn’t natural…

Beau: isn’t if the FDA’s job to ensure that supplements sold in the US are steroid free? Should Sherk really have to worry about taking legal supplements? At the very least, the santioning committees need to take into account the fact that apparently even someone using only FDA-approved “steroid-free” supplements can have a sample show positive for steroids. It certainly belies the assumption that anyone with a positive sample must have knowling taken banned substances, which is what everyone believed prior to this year.

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]]> By: Beau http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9380 Beau Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:06:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9380 Sherk is an idiot. Look at this quote from his interview with fox sports. "I didn't even know what contamination was before. Now I'm doing all this research. I take twenty two different supplements. With 25 percent of those supplements having the risk of being contaminated that increases my chances of having contamination pretty well. I can't stop taking supplements, I need the stuff and its legal so what am I going to do?" So he knows 25% of his supplements may be tainted but he wont stop taking them cause he "needs" them. Maybe he "needs" the steroids in them. If you know your supplements may be tainted with steroids and you take them anyways then you are knowingly ingesting steroids. This guy is an idiot. The fact he wont stop taking them or at least cut down so he doesn't test positive again shows that he's just setting up his next excuse for when he once again fails a steroid test. Sherk is an idiot. Look at this quote from his interview with fox sports.

“I didn’t even know what contamination was before. Now I’m doing all this research. I take twenty two different supplements. With 25 percent of those supplements having the risk of being contaminated that increases my chances of having contamination pretty well. I can’t stop taking supplements, I need the stuff and its legal so what am I going to do?”

So he knows 25% of his supplements may be tainted but he wont stop taking them cause he “needs” them. Maybe he “needs” the steroids in them. If you know your supplements may be tainted with steroids and you take them anyways then you are knowingly ingesting steroids. This guy is an idiot. The fact he wont stop taking them or at least cut down so he doesn’t test positive again shows that he’s just setting up his next excuse for when he once again fails a steroid test.

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]]> By: dizzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9376 dizzle Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:06:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9376 exactly Karat. When they start growing steroids out of the earth...thats when i'll start taking them. exactly Karat.

When they start growing steroids out of the earth…thats when i’ll start taking them.

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]]> By: karat3 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9374 karat3 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:30:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9374 Pot is natural, roids are not. Pot is natural, roids are not.

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]]> By: hbdale309 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9361 hbdale309 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:05:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9361 I'm pretty sure there's an old youtube video where BJ is riding around w/ his friends in Hawaii totally high... obviously high. I guess that's where Sherk is getting this. LMNAO I’m pretty sure there’s an old youtube video where BJ is riding around w/ his friends in Hawaii totally high… obviously high. I guess that’s where Sherk is getting this. LMNAO

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]]> By: garth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9356 garth Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:45:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9356 BJ's never tested positive for anything other than suspicious rib injuries when a guy may be gassing out. Sherk should shut his whaaaa-hole and wait for another shot at a boring lay-and-pray decision title shot. BJ’s never tested positive for anything other than suspicious rib injuries when a guy may be gassing out. Sherk should shut his whaaaa-hole and wait for another shot at a boring lay-and-pray decision title shot.

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]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9355 Tommy Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:25:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9355 Oh and Sherk did test positive for roids. Has BJ tested positive for weed? HMMM Oh and Sherk did test positive for roids. Has BJ tested positive for weed? HMMM

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]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9354 Tommy Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:13:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9354 All you hear is this guy cry. You don't hear Serra crying that Hughes and GSP will fight for the interim title. Why? Cause he hasn't done anything wrong. I think Sherk is roid raging. Good job with his plausible denabilty though. Doesn't matter really, they'll fight and he'll get smoked by a pot head. All you hear is this guy cry. You don’t hear Serra crying that Hughes and GSP will fight for the interim title. Why? Cause he hasn’t done anything wrong. I think Sherk is roid raging. Good job with his plausible denabilty though. Doesn’t matter really, they’ll fight and he’ll get smoked by a pot head.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9331 HexRei Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:51:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9331 I'd like to further clarify that I think it was pretty dumb of Sherk (I realize I spelled his name wrong over and over in the previous post... sorry) even to bring it up. It's irrelevant not only in the legal sense that BJ has still never tested positive and Sherk has, as well as in the rational sense that being a pothead, while banned, doesn't help your game at all and is clearly not unethical in exact same sense that steroid use is. In fact, upon further cognition it begins to sound almost like a "ok well I might have done something bad but so did that other guy...." which doesn't exactly promote Sherk's credibility. I’d like to further clarify that I think it was pretty dumb of Sherk (I realize I spelled his name wrong over and over in the previous post… sorry) even to bring it up. It’s irrelevant not only in the legal sense that BJ has still never tested positive and Sherk has, as well as in the rational sense that being a pothead, while banned, doesn’t help your game at all and is clearly not unethical in exact same sense that steroid use is.
In fact, upon further cognition it begins to sound almost like a “ok well I might have done something bad but so did that other guy….” which doesn’t exactly promote Sherk’s credibility.

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]]> By: Curt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9330 Curt Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:48:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9330 Why doesn't sherk attack xyience for making tainted supplements. He tested positive, BJ didn't. Why doesn’t sherk attack xyience for making tainted supplements. He tested positive, BJ didn’t.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/comment-page-1/#comment-9326 HexRei Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:28:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/26/sean-sherk-on-bj-penn-the-guy-is-a-pothead/#comment-9326 The criticism flung at Shirk is semi-legitimate, in that he tested positive, but had his sentence reduced. While I believe the reasons for the reduction were never stated, it probably has to do with the flaws Shirk's legal team presented in the testing system (inadequate or non-existent cleansing of equipment between test batches, for example) and the unprofessionalism of the sanctioning committee in delaying his case due to a simple failure to examine all the evidence prior to the appeal date. Articles like this one <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-12-05-supplement-study_N.htm" rel="nofollow">Steroids Found in Health Supplements</a> have muddied the issue further, given the huge amount of legal supplements Sherk has admitted taking on camera and in interviews. Whether he was truly guilty of illicit use is still quite questionable. However, I bet BJ has smoked pot at least once.... he's a Hilo Boy. The criticism flung at Shirk is semi-legitimate, in that he tested positive, but had his sentence reduced. While I believe the reasons for the reduction were never stated, it probably has to do with the flaws Shirk’s legal team presented in the testing system (inadequate or non-existent cleansing of equipment between test batches, for example) and the unprofessionalism of the sanctioning committee in delaying his case due to a simple failure to examine all the evidence prior to the appeal date.

Articles like this one Steroids Found in Health Supplements have muddied the issue further, given the huge amount of legal supplements Sherk has admitted taking on camera and in interviews. Whether he was truly guilty of illicit use is still quite questionable. However, I bet BJ has smoked pot at least once…. he’s a Hilo Boy.

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