Comments on: UFC offers Lyoto Machida a fight with Tito Ortiz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:00:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: wingtsun_Tim http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-12585 wingtsun_Tim Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:00:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-12585 ""On another note, even though Chuck is just rebounding from his loosing streak, I think he is the more likely candidate to be selected by the UFC for a title fight""?? Machida should be the guy next inline for the tittle shot, he won his last 4 fights in UFC...who else in the LHW has won that many fight against all top name. Dana! you know Rampage is no match for Machida, I mean didn't you see how Dan Henderson landed so many punches on Jackson, that was a very close fight. The reason why Jackson won is because he was holding Dan down on ground but if you count who landed the most punches, I think Dan should of won. Rampage you will lose buddy... Forrest got luckly with sogun, Sogun ran out of juice in the second round. “”On another note, even though Chuck is just rebounding from his loosing streak, I think he is the more likely candidate to be selected by the UFC for a title fight”"??

Machida should be the guy next inline for the tittle shot, he won his last 4 fights in UFC…who else in the LHW has won that many fight against all top name.

Dana! you know Rampage is no match for Machida, I mean didn’t you see how Dan Henderson landed so many punches on Jackson, that was a very close fight. The reason why Jackson won is because he was holding Dan down on ground but if you count who landed the most punches, I think Dan should of won.

Rampage you will lose buddy…
Forrest got luckly with sogun, Sogun ran out of juice in the second round.

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]]> By: pgamil http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10851 pgamil Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:12:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10851 machida will win hif he prepares serious cardio. machida could get to that level cardio wise in a 3-4 very tough months. but, tito can't acquire the skills to hang with machida in 3-4 months. interesting fight though. i predict machida will win, and get a better test from shogun or rampage. griffin would be a good test too, so machida is lucky to have to face a gnP tough wrestling guy like Tito to prepare for Rampage in particular machida will win hif he prepares serious cardio.

machida could get to that level cardio wise in a 3-4 very tough months.
but,
tito can’t acquire the skills to hang with machida in 3-4 months.

interesting fight though.

i predict machida will win, and get a better test from shogun or rampage. griffin would be a good test too, so machida is lucky to have to face a gnP tough wrestling guy like Tito to prepare for Rampage in particular

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]]> By: JacRabbit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10541 JacRabbit Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:18:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10541 On another note, even though Chuck is just rebounding from his loosing streak, I think he is the more likely candidate to be selected by the UFC for a title fight. On another note, even though Chuck is just rebounding from his loosing streak, I think he is the more likely candidate to be selected by the UFC for a title fight.

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]]> By: JacRabbit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10540 JacRabbit Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:16:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10540 I'm with klown on those great matchmaking concepts. I only disagree with the thought of Jardine being next in line. That KO by Huston in his UFC debut replays in my head everytime I hear Jardine's name. As was said before, he just isnt that interesting to watch. Yes he will brawl, but from a marketing standpoint I dont think many people care when Jardine wins (in fact his loss to Huston was probably the most INTERESTING footage of Jardine yet) Jardine's victories over Forrest and Liddell were impressive, but I need to see more before I care to watch a title fight featuring Jardine. I’m with klown on those great matchmaking concepts. I only disagree with the thought of Jardine being next in line. That KO by Huston in his UFC debut replays in my head everytime I hear Jardine’s name. As was said before, he just isnt that interesting to watch. Yes he will brawl, but from a marketing standpoint I dont think many people care when Jardine wins (in fact his loss to Huston was probably the most INTERESTING footage of Jardine yet)

Jardine’s victories over Forrest and Liddell were impressive, but I need to see more before I care to watch a title fight featuring Jardine.

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]]> By: klown http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10370 klown Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:51:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10370 There are 4 guys who should get a title shot if they beat 1 Top 5 fighter: Liddell, Machida, Jardine and Thiago Silva. I think Jardine is first in line, with his wins over Liddell and Griffin. I'd give him to Silva for an explosive striking war; winner fights the winner of Jackson/Griffin for the belt. Liddell vs Machida is an awesome match-up. Can the technician dismantle the knock-out artist? Whoever wins will gain vast credibility. Leading to a fantastically hyped fight against the winner of Jackson/Griffin vs Jardine/Silva for the LHW title! And I'm with Caplan on Ortiz vs Wanderlei Silva II. I think that has the potential to surpass Liddell vs Silva in both hype and content. It would just be a megafight. As for Machida vs Ortiz - it makes NO SENSE! Say no, Tito! There are 4 guys who should get a title shot if they beat 1 Top 5 fighter: Liddell, Machida, Jardine and Thiago Silva. I think Jardine is first in line, with his wins over Liddell and Griffin. I’d give him to Silva for an explosive striking war; winner fights the winner of Jackson/Griffin for the belt.

Liddell vs Machida is an awesome match-up. Can the technician dismantle the knock-out artist? Whoever wins will gain vast credibility. Leading to a fantastically hyped fight against the winner of Jackson/Griffin vs Jardine/Silva for the LHW title!

And I’m with Caplan on Ortiz vs Wanderlei Silva II. I think that has the potential to surpass Liddell vs Silva in both hype and content. It would just be a megafight.

As for Machida vs Ortiz – it makes NO SENSE! Say no, Tito!

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]]> By: Anton K http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10355 Anton K Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:09:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10355 Interesting... so, for Tito it comes down to W. Silva or L. Machida... after that, who else is there? Houston Alexander? Stephan Bonnar? Interesting… so, for Tito it comes down to W. Silva or L. Machida… after that, who else is there? Houston Alexander? Stephan Bonnar?

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10349 Sam Caplan Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:07:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10349 Anton, the rumor going around right now is Evans vs. Thiago Silva in the spring. Anton, the rumor going around right now is Evans vs. Thiago Silva in the spring.

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]]> By: Anton K http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10348 Anton K Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:15:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10348 If Tito bails, the logical match is Machida v Evans. If Evans steps up, then Tito will look cowardly... he'll be forced to fight the winner... I don't agree that people have forgotten about Jardine. For some reason, he's just not all that interesting, even if he's winning, but Machida v Jardine could also be a logical fight. the Tito v Silva II idea is brilliant, but I think Tito needs a fight before Silva will be ready. I suppose the UFC can hold Tito off for a few months... but they should keep Machida fighting, keep him out there in the spotlight. If Tito bails, the logical match is Machida v Evans. If Evans steps up, then Tito will look cowardly… he’ll be forced to fight the winner…

I don’t agree that people have forgotten about Jardine. For some reason, he’s just not all that interesting, even if he’s winning, but Machida v Jardine could also be a logical fight.

the Tito v Silva II idea is brilliant, but I think Tito needs a fight before Silva will be ready. I suppose the UFC can hold Tito off for a few months… but they should keep Machida fighting, keep him out there in the spotlight.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10344 mike wolfe Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:40:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10344 I get the sense that Tito is trying to move into venues ohter than fighting. His Hollywood hopes and Apprentice stint would seem to be a distraction to a serious fighter. If he could turn himself into an actor or media personality who didn't depend on fighting, I'm not sure he'd be back in MMA. He's good for marketing, but his recent fights have been so-so. I get the sense that Tito is trying to move into venues ohter than fighting. His Hollywood hopes and Apprentice stint would seem to be a distraction to a serious fighter. If he could turn himself into an actor or media personality who didn’t depend on fighting, I’m not sure he’d be back in MMA. He’s good for marketing, but his recent fights have been so-so.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-10334 Sam Caplan Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:02:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/05/ufc-offers-lyoto-machida-a-fight-with-tito-ortiz/#comment-10334 According to the quote, they are still waiting for Tito to accept. I have serious doubts that Ortiz will take a fight with Machida. And if I was the UFC, I'd be pushing to make Ortiz vs. Wanderlei Silva II. According to the quote, they are still waiting for Tito to accept. I have serious doubts that Ortiz will take a fight with Machida.

And if I was the UFC, I’d be pushing to make Ortiz vs. Wanderlei Silva II.

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