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	<title>Comments on: UFC Fight Night 12 Thoughts &#038; Commentary</title>
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		<title>By: MMA Kamander</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-14827</link>
		<dc:creator>MMA Kamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This card was okay for a free event. Solid contender match-ups. Nothing spectacular.

MMA Kamander gives this card 2 stars.

2 stars for Mike Swick vs. Josh Burkman
3 stars for Patrick Cote vs. Andrew McFedries
2 stars for Thiago Tavares vs. Michihiro Omigawa
3 stars for Nathan Diaz vs. Alvin Robinson
3 stars for Kurt Pellegrino vs. Alberto Crane

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- action and excitement
- skill and technique
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This card was okay for a free event. Solid contender match-ups. Nothing spectacular.</p>
<p>MMA Kamander gives this card 2 stars.</p>
<p>2 stars for Mike Swick vs. Josh Burkman<br />
3 stars for Patrick Cote vs. Andrew McFedries<br />
2 stars for Thiago Tavares vs. Michihiro Omigawa<br />
3 stars for Nathan Diaz vs. Alvin Robinson<br />
3 stars for Kurt Pellegrino vs. Alberto Crane</p>
<p>Events and fights are rated from 1-5 stars based on:<br />
- action and excitement<br />
- skill and technique<br />
- significance and interest</p>
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		<title>By: bill smith</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-13127</link>
		<dc:creator>bill smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swick and burkman was just 15 minutes of forplay should end in a draw !!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swick and burkman was just 15 minutes of forplay should end in a draw !!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-12615</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can't get over pelligrino gettin his tooth knocked thruogh his mouth.  that was sick.  but hella credit for coming back and winning the fight.  swick vs burkman was a snore fest.  swick looked tentative and burkman ran out of ideas after he couldn't take him down.  and i may not like diaz but the guy is a freak off his back.  your best chance in beating him may be to KO him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t get over pelligrino gettin his tooth knocked thruogh his mouth.  that was sick.  but hella credit for coming back and winning the fight.  swick vs burkman was a snore fest.  swick looked tentative and burkman ran out of ideas after he couldn&#8217;t take him down.  and i may not like diaz but the guy is a freak off his back.  your best chance in beating him may be to KO him.</p>
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		<title>By: mike wolfe</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-12597</link>
		<dc:creator>mike wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someday we may look back and say that we miss the old days.  Bud and Ford may have more legitimacy and more money, but you'll never read cool stories about how they went into bankruptcy and received death threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someday we may look back and say that we miss the old days.  Bud and Ford may have more legitimacy and more money, but you&#8217;ll never read cool stories about how they went into bankruptcy and received death threats.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-12561</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why not respect that a bit more"

respect doesn't make payroll. :)

I hear what you're saying...this thing needs time to cook. Soon they will have Budweiser and Ford. As opposed to xyience and mickey's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why not respect that a bit more&#8221;</p>
<p>respect doesn&#8217;t make payroll. <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying&#8230;this thing needs time to cook. Soon they will have Budweiser and Ford. As opposed to xyience and mickey&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: 18</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/01/24/ufc-fight-night-12-thoughts-commentary/#comment-12560</link>
		<dc:creator>18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Swick was cutting down to 170 for the first time, and he was the main event for the first time. That wouldn't give you some nerves? I obviously think he didn't fight to his potential but he found a way to win, and the great fighters find a way to win when there game is not on. I think Swick is a good fit for 170, lets remember he has been used to being the quickest fighter in all his fights since he was a small 185, and now he has seen Burkman's quickness, who regardless of talent is a very explosive athlete. He will be just fine, plus we forget he hadn't fought in nine months. Taking in to account all of those things I think it was a decent debut, he won, which is the objective. 

But Nate Diaz looked absolutely amazing, I am also a Cesar Gracie student and was very proud that he got the win. His JJ is so slick and technical, he is always so active off his back. I would like to see him win a fight on his feet to show he is balanced. That guillotine didn't put him in that much danger, he looked calm as hell and Robinson drained himself like that. He should have known better to try and submit Diaz with a guillotine out of half guard, you can't get the proper leverage and you waste a lot of energy. I would love to see Nate Diaz vs Kurt Pellegrino, or maybe even Huerta (highly unlikely I know). The fight that sticks out the most is nate Vs. tyson griffin. Tyson used to be a Cesar student until he left for couture. Anyways, GO NATE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Swick was cutting down to 170 for the first time, and he was the main event for the first time. That wouldn&#8217;t give you some nerves? I obviously think he didn&#8217;t fight to his potential but he found a way to win, and the great fighters find a way to win when there game is not on. I think Swick is a good fit for 170, lets remember he has been used to being the quickest fighter in all his fights since he was a small 185, and now he has seen Burkman&#8217;s quickness, who regardless of talent is a very explosive athlete. He will be just fine, plus we forget he hadn&#8217;t fought in nine months. Taking in to account all of those things I think it was a decent debut, he won, which is the objective. </p>
<p>But Nate Diaz looked absolutely amazing, I am also a Cesar Gracie student and was very proud that he got the win. His JJ is so slick and technical, he is always so active off his back. I would like to see him win a fight on his feet to show he is balanced. That guillotine didn&#8217;t put him in that much danger, he looked calm as hell and Robinson drained himself like that. He should have known better to try and submit Diaz with a guillotine out of half guard, you can&#8217;t get the proper leverage and you waste a lot of energy. I would love to see Nate Diaz vs Kurt Pellegrino, or maybe even Huerta (highly unlikely I know). The fight that sticks out the most is nate Vs. tyson griffin. Tyson used to be a Cesar student until he left for couture. Anyways, GO NATE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anton K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 -  It's not the commercials per se that bothered me.  I understand the realities of the television medium.  It's the the overall tone created by SPIKE that reduces mma to its lowest common denominator... I felt the entire event had no real substance... just another post-modern, everything is meaningless, gloss over.  

The great thing about mma is that, at a core level, it's as "real" as it can get.  Why not respect that a bit more... the fighters and the fights, on some level, should sell themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 -  It&#8217;s not the commercials per se that bothered me.  I understand the realities of the television medium.  It&#8217;s the the overall tone created by SPIKE that reduces mma to its lowest common denominator&#8230; I felt the entire event had no real substance&#8230; just another post-modern, everything is meaningless, gloss over.  </p>
<p>The great thing about mma is that, at a core level, it&#8217;s as &#8220;real&#8221; as it can get.  Why not respect that a bit more&#8230; the fighters and the fights, on some level, should sell themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha.
you should have seen some of his earlier fights. . . 
they were hella exciting. . .
quick ko's.
and quick sub's.
crazy.
he didn't look too bad though.
he just didn't look determined either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.<br />
you should have seen some of his earlier fights. . .<br />
they were hella exciting. . .<br />
quick ko&#8217;s.<br />
and quick sub&#8217;s.<br />
crazy.<br />
he didn&#8217;t look too bad though.<br />
he just didn&#8217;t look determined either</p>
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		<title>By: JacRabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burkman didn't show up well against Karo either... I have only seen 2 of his fights and both almost put me to sleep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burkman didn&#8217;t show up well against Karo either&#8230; I have only seen 2 of his fights and both almost put me to sleep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know,
i was thinking about it last night. . . and i think that if swick would have just let burkman get the takedown. . . he probably could have gotten the sub. . .
but. . . either way he got the W. . . and showed his takedown defense. . . i mean. . . if he would have  let burkman get him to the ground . . . ya, he could have gotten a sub. . .BUT. . . he also could have lost a decision. . . or maybe a tko. . . SO. . . i'd say he played it smart. . . but burkman should have been more dilligent w/ his takedowns also. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know,<br />
i was thinking about it last night. . . and i think that if swick would have just let burkman get the takedown. . . he probably could have gotten the sub. . .<br />
but. . . either way he got the W. . . and showed his takedown defense. . . i mean. . . if he would have  let burkman get him to the ground . . . ya, he could have gotten a sub. . .BUT. . . he also could have lost a decision. . . or maybe a tko. . . SO. . . i&#8217;d say he played it smart. . . but burkman should have been more dilligent w/ his takedowns also. . .</p>
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