Comments on: UFC 82 Card Finalized, Andrei Arlovski Stuck Down in Prelims http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Zack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14394 Zack Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:26:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14394 mmajunkie is reporting Leben/Sakara is now on the televised car bumping off Diego. I rule. mmajunkie is reporting Leben/Sakara is now on the televised car bumping off Diego. I rule.

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]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14344 BigBad Bradical Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:12:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14344 The lawsuit was a ploy to get back @ Randy & we know that. Randy isn't, nor will give into the treatment from the UFC. So the only alternative to win the pissin' contest is to go @ him legitimately through a "legal avenue". Now there isn't even a court issued decision on the case itself, so Randy might be in the clear. If so, and if it were me, I'd countersue the UFC if I were Randy & if I won the suit. This is merely a pissing contest. IF Randy were to give in, apologize & kiss Dana's ass tomorrow. . .the suit would be dropped & we know that. Andrei won't be f--ked w/the same way, you're right. The lawsuit was a ploy to get back @ Randy & we know that. Randy isn’t, nor will give into the treatment from the UFC. So the only alternative to win the pissin’ contest is to go @ him legitimately through a “legal avenue”. Now there isn’t even a court issued decision on the case itself, so Randy might be in the clear. If so, and if it were me, I’d countersue the UFC if I were Randy & if I won the suit. This is merely a pissing contest. IF Randy were to give in, apologize & kiss Dana’s ass tomorrow. . .the suit would be dropped & we know that. Andrei won’t be f–ked w/the same way, you’re right.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14279 mike wolfe Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:40:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14279 Well, if suing Randy is the same as begging Randy, then you're right. Doubt that AA would want to be begged in that fashion. Don't think I'd care to be begged like that, either. Well, if suing Randy is the same as begging Randy, then you’re right. Doubt that AA would want to be begged in that fashion. Don’t think I’d care to be begged like that, either.

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]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14268 BigBad Bradical Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:47:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14268 Who cares if he responds or not? I don't. Maybe, just maybe Rich, this last performance will be one of his best, thus giving Dana a shocker forcing him in the locker room to re-think leaving. I can almost see Dana begging Andrei to stay. Hell he's still begging Randy, you know he is. Who cares if he responds or not? I don’t. Maybe, just maybe Rich, this last performance will be one of his best, thus giving Dana a shocker forcing him in the locker room to re-think leaving. I can almost see Dana begging Andrei to stay. Hell he’s still begging Randy, you know he is.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14262 mike wolfe Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:59:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14262 ... And then we all come back after a few minutes. … And then we all come back after a few minutes.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14261 mike wolfe Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:58:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14261 How about all of us threaten to leave the site unless Jiu Jitsu Guy responds? How about all of us threaten to leave the site unless Jiu Jitsu Guy responds?

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]]> By: Rich http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14253 Rich Wed, 06 Feb 2008 01:59:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14253 first of all ... LOL at #30... second of all.. i bet JJG is just sitting there reading all of this, itching to comment... but doesn't want to make his threats to "leave the site" untrue.. i'm telling you.. after all that crap he was talking.. about how this site gets destroyed by other MMA sites... he still probably visits EVERY DAY.. third of all, i wouldn't like to see AA in another organization.. like WEC, EliteXC, etc... i feel he's great for the UFC and just wouldn't seem the same in the other organizations in my opinion... but... i'm sure he WANTS to leave the UFC [and, unfortunately, i'm sure his leave from the UFC is inevitable].. because of all the "conflicts" he's had lately with his pay and what not.. but i can only hope for the best.. and THAT would be if all of the sudden all of AA's problems with the UFC just disappeared.. and he continued to fight for the UFC.. i just don't see it happening. first of all … LOL at #30…

second of all.. i bet JJG is just sitting there reading all of this, itching to comment… but doesn’t want to make his threats to “leave the site” untrue..

i’m telling you.. after all that crap he was talking.. about how this site gets destroyed by other MMA sites… he still probably visits EVERY DAY..

third of all, i wouldn’t like to see AA in another organization.. like WEC, EliteXC, etc… i feel he’s great for the UFC and just wouldn’t seem the same in the other organizations in my opinion… but… i’m sure he WANTS to leave the UFC [and, unfortunately, i'm sure his leave from the UFC is inevitable].. because of all the “conflicts” he’s had lately with his pay and what not..

but i can only hope for the best.. and THAT would be if all of the sudden all of AA’s problems with the UFC just disappeared.. and he continued to fight for the UFC..

i just don’t see it happening.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14246 mike wolfe Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:51:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14246 Good one. It's like "jiggy" with a little stutter. Could be a video or at least a You Tube in this somewhere. Maybe with the little dude who did the video about Brittany Spears. Only this time it would be "leave JJG (or me)alone." Good one. It’s like “jiggy” with a little stutter. Could be a video or at least a You Tube in this somewhere. Maybe with the little dude who did the video about Brittany Spears. Only this time it would be “leave JJG (or me)alone.”

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14239 Evan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:42:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14239 How about going "JJG" How about going “JJG”

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]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14238 BigBad Bradical Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:38:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14238 Wolfe. . .Agreed, and I am a businessman myself. I know what greed has done & what it can do to people. I used to wk myself sick to make more $$, then realized enjoying life was more important. I'm financially stable, but respect the guy who wants to wk hard for that extra cash. But mixing that business attribute w/control can lead to screwing over your customers & employees. I love the product UFC produces & will, but that doesn't mean I can't disagree w/some of the service provided from time to time. A.A. not being resigned is my gripe. I watch UFC to see him fight primarily, but this goes bk to what wa said earlier. . .maybe we don't know the whole business that goes on behind closed doors. I will hope that A.A.'s bout gets televised & I hope he smears O' Brien to show Dana he means business. Wolfe. . .Agreed, and I am a businessman myself. I know what greed has done & what it can do to people. I used to wk myself sick to make more $$, then realized enjoying life was more important. I’m financially stable, but respect the guy who wants to wk hard for that extra cash. But mixing that business attribute w/control can lead to screwing over your customers & employees. I love the product UFC produces & will, but that doesn’t mean I can’t disagree w/some of the service provided from time to time. A.A. not being resigned is my gripe. I watch UFC to see him fight primarily, but this goes bk to what wa said earlier. . .maybe we don’t know the whole business that goes on behind closed doors. I will hope that A.A.’s bout gets televised & I hope he smears O’ Brien to show Dana he means business.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14235 Mike Wolfe Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:39:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14235 Sergio Maybe this is a new "insiders only" reference for 5 oz regulars. "Going Jiu Jitsu" instead of "going postal". Spread it around. Sergio

Maybe this is a new “insiders only” reference for 5 oz regulars. “Going Jiu Jitsu” instead of “going postal”. Spread it around.

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]]> By: Sergio http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14230 Sergio Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:12:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14230 "I feel pretty calm. I have no Jiu-Jitsu Guy tendencies at all."\ Thanks for making me laugh out loud at work, Mike. REAL cool, haha. And I'm starting to think that maybe this next fight may be the clincher for the nail in the coffin for Arlovski. An amazing showing by their former Heavyweight champ could lead to the contract Arlovski wants but UFC is hesitant to offer while another lackluster performance further solidifies Arlovski's stigma as a legitimate but inconsistent contender. “I feel pretty calm. I have no Jiu-Jitsu Guy tendencies at all.”\

Thanks for making me laugh out loud at work, Mike. REAL cool, haha.

And I’m starting to think that maybe this next fight may be the clincher for the nail in the coffin for Arlovski.

An amazing showing by their former Heavyweight champ could lead to the contract Arlovski wants but UFC is hesitant to offer while another lackluster performance further solidifies Arlovski’s stigma as a legitimate but inconsistent contender.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14225 Mike Wolfe Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:55:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14225 P.S. Yeah, I'd like to see AA stay in the UFC, but he's gotta step it up. Somebody's gonna take his job if he doesn't perform, just like any other sport. P.S.

Yeah, I’d like to see AA stay in the UFC, but he’s gotta step it up. Somebody’s gonna take his job if he doesn’t perform, just like any other sport.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14224 Mike Wolfe Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:53:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14224 I feel pretty calm. I have no Jiu-Jitsu Guy tendencies at all. Jardine's payday only looks low in retrospect. If Liddell won, everybody would say that Jardine was a stepping stone to set up another title fight for Liddell. Since Jardine won, he's probably looking at better money for his next fight. If he keeps winning, his contract goes up. Conversely, AA hasn't done so well, so he's slipping. It's a Darwinian world, for better or for worse, and blaming White for that is substantially overstating his power. What's wrong with wanting to succeed ("greed")? If UFC succeeds, White makes lots of money. Good for him. Also good for us, since we like his product. As far as being a control freak, show me a successful businessman of any kind who isn't. I feel pretty calm. I have no Jiu-Jitsu Guy tendencies at all. Jardine’s payday only looks low in retrospect. If Liddell won, everybody would say that Jardine was a stepping stone to set up another title fight for Liddell. Since Jardine won, he’s probably looking at better money for his next fight. If he keeps winning, his contract goes up. Conversely, AA hasn’t done so well, so he’s slipping. It’s a Darwinian world, for better or for worse, and blaming White for that is substantially overstating his power.

What’s wrong with wanting to succeed (“greed”)? If UFC succeeds, White makes lots of money. Good for him. Also good for us, since we like his product. As far as being a control freak, show me a successful businessman of any kind who isn’t.

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]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14223 BigBad Bradical Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:43:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14223 Wolfe. . .C'mon, no one's crying. Can't I be an Arlovski fan & want him to stay in the UFC where I personally think he belongs? It is a business, and maybe A.A. is asking too much. As I did say, we're not privvy to what goes on behind closed doors, so calm down. I'm just viewing this from the top, not seeing beneath the surface cuz I simply have no idea what beneath the surface. IMO I do think Dana short changes his fighters. Example..Jardine get's $14K for beating Liddell (who made $500K)? C'mon. . .doesn't make sense. Dana's a greedy control freak & needs more management to assist him. He's doing a lot of this all alone & that gets overbearing & stressful. But Andrei belongs in the UFC, u gotta agree! Wolfe. . .C’mon, no one’s crying. Can’t I be an Arlovski fan & want him to stay in the UFC where I personally think he belongs? It is a business, and maybe A.A. is asking too much. As I did say, we’re not privvy to what goes on behind closed doors, so calm down. I’m just viewing this from the top, not seeing beneath the surface cuz I simply have no idea what beneath the surface. IMO I do think Dana short changes his fighters. Example..Jardine get’s $14K for beating Liddell (who made $500K)? C’mon. . .doesn’t make sense. Dana’s a greedy control freak & needs more management to assist him. He’s doing a lot of this all alone & that gets overbearing & stressful. But Andrei belongs in the UFC, u gotta agree!

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14209 Mike Wolfe Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:53:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14209 Why does everybody assume that Arlovski wants to stay and the UFC doesn't want him? Maybe he wants to leave. Maybe he has an unrealistic sense of his value. The UFC has the data on revenues, and they know who's worth the bucks and who isn't. It's a bottom line business, and they'd fall all over themselves if he performed. As far as his being in the preliminary fights, his last fight with Werdum was boring. Like watching paint dry boring. Other posts have pointed out that he hasn't been the same since his two consecutive losses to Tim Sylvia. (Think that over for a few minutes. If you think Sylvia is bad, boring, whatever, how do you still like Arlovski after he lost to Sylvia twice?) This is a great card, and crying over Arlovski misses the big picture. Hendo vs. Silva? I can't wait. Why does everybody assume that Arlovski wants to stay and the UFC doesn’t want him? Maybe he wants to leave. Maybe he has an unrealistic sense of his value. The UFC has the data on revenues, and they know who’s worth the bucks and who isn’t. It’s a bottom line business, and they’d fall all over themselves if he performed. As far as his being in the preliminary fights, his last fight with Werdum was boring. Like watching paint dry boring. Other posts have pointed out that he hasn’t been the same since his two consecutive losses to Tim Sylvia. (Think that over for a few minutes. If you think Sylvia is bad, boring, whatever, how do you still like Arlovski after he lost to Sylvia twice?)

This is a great card, and crying over Arlovski misses the big picture. Hendo vs. Silva? I can’t wait.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14179 Evan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:59:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14179 I agree with everything except for the Tito one. I think he is smart enough to know how all of this works and he knows he has little chance to be a LHW belt holder in the UFC. I think he wants to be a big fish in a small pond elsewhere. I agree with everything except for the Tito one.

I think he is smart enough to know how all of this works and he knows he has little chance to be a LHW belt holder in the UFC. I think he wants to be a big fish in a small pond elsewhere.

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]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14177 BigBad Bradical Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:44:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14177 Evan...You're right what goes on behind closed doors is something the fans aren't privvy to. But, something is obviously wrong when Randy, Andrei & now Tito are bailing on the UFC. These are ALL icons & serious players in the UFC. Randy is the poster boy for the UFC & one of the best damned fighters to step in the octagon. Arlovski has made the HW class something to watch for w/his impressive fast n' heavy hands, not to mention him winning the belt as well. A Pit Bull fight was always a good one to watch (except Werdum's bout). Even Tito was something the UFC capitalized on. Hate him all you want, Tito sold tickets & drew a crowd. It seems as though the good ole' fashioned blood, sweat & tears that made the sport fun. . .has now turned to egos, hate & corporate greed. Andrei's still my boy! Evan…You’re right what goes on behind closed doors is something the fans aren’t privvy to. But, something is obviously wrong when Randy, Andrei & now Tito are bailing on the UFC. These are ALL icons & serious players in the UFC. Randy is the poster boy for the UFC & one of the best damned fighters to step in the octagon. Arlovski has made the HW class something to watch for w/his impressive fast n’ heavy hands, not to mention him winning the belt as well. A Pit Bull fight was always a good one to watch (except Werdum’s bout). Even Tito was something the UFC capitalized on. Hate him all you want, Tito sold tickets & drew a crowd. It seems as though the good ole’ fashioned blood, sweat & tears that made the sport fun. . .has now turned to egos, hate & corporate greed. Andrei’s still my boy!

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14174 Evan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:03:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14174 -ok sorry my screen at work refreshed for some reason and posted my comment , please delete it if you can- “It’s just a shame to see Arlovski leave on these terms” I agree. As with Randy I am not sure who to side with because nobody knows whats really going on but the people behind the scenes but no matter what I hate how this is ending. -ok sorry my screen at work refreshed for some reason and posted my comment , please delete it if you can-

“It’s just a shame to see Arlovski leave on these terms”

I agree. As with Randy I am not sure who to side with because nobody knows whats really going on but the people behind the scenes but no matter what I hate how this is ending.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/comment-page-1/#comment-14172 Evan Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:01:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-82-card-finalized-arlovski-stuck-down-in-prelims/#comment-14172 "It’s just a shame to see Arlovski leave on these terms" I agree. As with Randy I am not sure who to side with because “It’s just a shame to see Arlovski leave on these terms”

I agree. As with Randy I am not sure who to side with because

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