Comments on: UFC sets deadline for Mirko Cro Cop http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14275 BigBad Bradical Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:22:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14275 Oh BTW. . .I say they should extend Andrei's contract to a short 2 fight deal & make one of the bouts CroCop vs. Arlovski. That would be an amazing fight of two fast n' heavy handed strikers/kickboxers. Whatcha thinkin? Oh BTW. . .I say they should extend Andrei’s contract to a short 2 fight deal & make one of the bouts CroCop vs. Arlovski. That would be an amazing fight of two fast n’ heavy handed strikers/kickboxers. Whatcha thinkin?

]]> By: BigBad Bradical http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14273 BigBad Bradical Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:20:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14273 #27 TomK said it best. We might all bitch n' moan, but a contract is a legal binding agreement between fighter/UFC. IT holds, and as an overall athlete/businessman you need to honor your time you promised. So that in turn means Zuffa needs to pay Mirko the $ stated in the fight agreement & not lower his purse, regardless of his past win record. A lot of these guys get a flat "per/fight salary" & a "win bonus" for the victory. IF Mirko's contract is similar to this, then he should by all means get his salary. The UFC can't dock his pay just cuz he lost 2 of his last bouts in the UFC. Honor the written & signed word. #27 TomK said it best. We might all bitch n’ moan, but a contract is a legal binding agreement between fighter/UFC. IT holds, and as an overall athlete/businessman you need to honor your time you promised. So that in turn means Zuffa needs to pay Mirko the $ stated in the fight agreement & not lower his purse, regardless of his past win record. A lot of these guys get a flat “per/fight salary” & a “win bonus” for the victory. IF Mirko’s contract is similar to this, then he should by all means get his salary. The UFC can’t dock his pay just cuz he lost 2 of his last bouts in the UFC. Honor the written & signed word.

]]> By: Danny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14169 Danny Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:39:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14169 i think that there should be another weight class. maybe something like 230. they could categorize it as cruiserweight. i could make 4 som interesting match-ups between some the small heavies and the bigger light heavies. think about it. crocop, f.grffin, rampage, couture (if he were to return), vera, liddell, jardine, werdum etc i think that there should be another weight class. maybe something like 230. they could categorize it as cruiserweight. i could make 4 som interesting match-ups between some the small heavies and the bigger light heavies. think about it. crocop, f.grffin, rampage, couture (if he were to return), vera, liddell, jardine, werdum etc

]]> By: Jye http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14100 Jye Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:53:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14100 I'm with Tommy and Tomk here... There are so many haters of the UFC and Dana White on these boards that it's ridiculous. It's more than likely that without Dana developing the UFC brand like he did that more than half of us would never have found mma. I’m with Tommy and Tomk here… There are so many haters of the UFC and Dana White on these boards that it’s ridiculous. It’s more than likely that without Dana developing the UFC brand like he did that more than half of us would never have found mma.

]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14083 Tommy Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:46:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14083 Hey TomK, I like what you got to say. It's no different then people screaming to pay the fighters more then crying when ppv's go up five dollars. Money has to come from somewhere. Hey TomK, I like what you got to say. It’s no different then people screaming to pay the fighters more then crying when ppv’s go up five dollars. Money has to come from somewhere.

]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14082 Tommy Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:44:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14082 Why Stephen? Because I don't sit back and act like I'm better and smarter then them? Sure I don't care for every move they make but I do respect the shit out of them. Look where they've taken their company and the sport. I know, you could do better. I'm sure they're taking applications. Why Stephen? Because I don’t sit back and act like I’m better and smarter then them? Sure I don’t care for every move they make but I do respect the shit out of them. Look where they’ve taken their company and the sport. I know, you could do better. I’m sure they’re taking applications.

]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14038 Derek B. Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:48:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14038 UFC has made many mistakes...and to be honest...they aren't able to put on consistent shows like PRIDE FC did for so many years. They'll learn how to draw a crowd...these past few event (exception for the fight night with guida and huerta) have been bore/snore fests with maybe 1 or 2 good fights. UFC has made many mistakes…and to be honest…they aren’t able to put on consistent shows like PRIDE FC did for so many years.

They’ll learn how to draw a crowd…these past few event (exception for the fight night with guida and huerta) have been bore/snore fests with maybe 1 or 2 good fights.

]]> By: TomK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14037 TomK Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:43:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14037 It's funny how many people are angry that the UFC *might* be trying to force Cro Cop to take less money (which would suck on their part) regardless of their contract with him, while at the same time people are defending Randy Couture for attempting to break his contract. We can't have it both ways. Either contracts are worthless and parties can break them whenever its convenient for them, or contracts are contracts and people should man up and complete them. If you defend Randy, you have to support the UFC with Cro Cop -- if you're mad at the UFC for this, then you have to be mad at Randy -- no double standards... It’s funny how many people are angry that the UFC *might* be trying to force Cro Cop to take less money (which would suck on their part) regardless of their contract with him, while at the same time people are defending Randy Couture for attempting to break his contract. We can’t have it both ways.

Either contracts are worthless and parties can break them whenever its convenient for them, or contracts are contracts and people should man up and complete them. If you defend Randy, you have to support the UFC with Cro Cop — if you’re mad at the UFC for this, then you have to be mad at Randy — no double standards…

]]> By: woooburn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14028 woooburn Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:06:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14028 "lost all willpower" translation: got kicked in the junk. “lost all willpower”

translation: got kicked in the junk.

]]> By: stephen http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14023 stephen Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:46:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14023 Mirko just needs to come back wanting to fight, he did for the first round of the kongo fight and then just lost all willpower. People seem to forget him winning hte pride OWGP last year. Mirko just needs to come back wanting to fight, he did for the first round of the kongo fight and then just lost all willpower. People seem to forget him winning hte pride OWGP last year.

]]> By: stephen http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14020 stephen Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:44:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14020 tommy you sound like UFCs spokesman or something...weak man tommy you sound like UFCs spokesman or something…weak man

]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14006 Mike Wolfe Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:00:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14006 Give the UFC some credit. Cro-Cop has fans and will sell tickets for a few more fights even if he loses. UFC management knows that. If he continues to lose, his fan support will diminish and then UFC would have sound business reasons not to renew his contract. Cro-Cop probably is trying to figure out what to do. Whether it's age, evolution of the sport or differences between Pride and UFC, he isn't as competitive and he'd have reason to second guess himself. There's no basis to suggest that the situation is anything other than as presented by White. If Cro-Cop has a different story to tell, there are plenty of outlets for him to do so. Give the UFC some credit. Cro-Cop has fans and will sell tickets for a few more fights even if he loses. UFC management knows that. If he continues to lose, his fan support will diminish and then UFC would have sound business reasons not to renew his contract. Cro-Cop probably is trying to figure out what to do. Whether it’s age, evolution of the sport or differences between Pride and UFC, he isn’t as competitive and he’d have reason to second guess himself. There’s no basis to suggest that the situation is anything other than as presented by White. If Cro-Cop has a different story to tell, there are plenty of outlets for him to do so.

]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14005 Derek B. Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:54:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14005 I think they need to change the weight classes again. I think they need to change the weight classes again.

]]> By: Captain http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14004 Captain Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:45:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14004 War Mirko; not speculation. What's with the Van Damme in the background? We all know Fedor and VD are in bed together but now Mirko too? War Mirko; not speculation.

What’s with the Van Damme in the background? We all know Fedor and VD are in bed together but now Mirko too?

]]> By: Nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-14003 Nate Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:38:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-14003 CRO-COP! CRO-COP! CRO-COP! how can anyone say the HW division doesnt need more fighters? Who do they have. I just read an article about how the HW division is empty. Someone will pick up Crocop if the UFC doesnt keep him. CRO-COP!
CRO-COP!
CRO-COP!

how can anyone say the HW division doesnt need more fighters? Who do they have. I just read an article about how the HW division is empty. Someone will pick up Crocop if the UFC doesnt keep him.

]]> By: jaydog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-13999 jaydog Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:16:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-13999 He's probably being offered Brock (Cro"copkiller") Lesnar. Then, only a fiercely determined Mirko would be able to pull out a victory featuring multiple LHKs to the head/neck (it's one organ on Brock) of Lesnar. Even though, CC is my fave, Brock would be the perfect jump-start to his career. He’s probably being offered Brock (Cro”copkiller”) Lesnar. Then, only a fiercely determined Mirko would be able to pull out a victory featuring multiple LHKs to the head/neck (it’s one organ on Brock) of Lesnar. Even though, CC is my fave, Brock would be the perfect jump-start to his career.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-13992 Evan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:26:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-13992 "Watch UFC 67 and tell me casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2 when the entire crowd is ‘oh’ing after every kick CroCop throws, regardless of whether it connects or not." Doesn't matter. He is not a contender and the UFC is moving at such a lighting pace with shows and PPV's he will be forgotten fast if he never fights again. I will not affect their bottom line whatsoever if he retires right now. “Watch UFC 67 and tell me casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2 when the entire crowd is ‘oh’ing after every kick CroCop throws, regardless of whether it connects or not.”

Doesn’t matter. He is not a contender and the UFC is moving at such a lighting pace with shows and PPV’s he will be forgotten fast if he never fights again.

I will not affect their bottom line whatsoever if he retires right now.

]]> By: Sergio http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-13991 Sergio Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:19:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-13991 "The don’t know about PRIDE or his amazing history. " Watch UFC 67 and tell me casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2 when the entire crowd is 'oh'ing after every kick CroCop throws, regardless of whether it connects or not. “The don’t know about PRIDE or his amazing history. ”

Watch UFC 67 and tell me casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2 when the entire crowd is ‘oh’ing after every kick CroCop throws, regardless of whether it connects or not.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-13985 Evan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:16:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-13985 Not sure this is a big deal at all if he goes away. The vast majority of fans are casual fans and the casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2. The don't know about PRIDE or his amazing history. What a dissapointment this whole thing has been with him in the UFC. Not sure this is a big deal at all if he goes away. The vast majority of fans are casual fans and the casual fans only know him as some guy who has gone 1-2. The don’t know about PRIDE or his amazing history.

What a dissapointment this whole thing has been with him in the UFC.

]]> By: Tommy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/comment-page-1/#comment-13984 Tommy Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:01:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/04/ufc-sets-deadline-for-mirko-cro-cop/#comment-13984 Everyone can talk about all the fighters the UFC don't have, but they have all the matters at the end of the day. Tickets sales & PPV buys. Everyone can talk about all the fighters the UFC don’t have, but they have all the matters at the end of the day. Tickets sales & PPV buys.

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