Antonio Nogueira talks about Fedor

Now that Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is the UFC interim heavyweight champion, the contenders will be lining up for a title shot. It is highly unlikely that Fedor Emelianenko will be one of those guys. Still, Nogueira would like that opportunity.

I’ll be here. I have the belt. If he comes here, I am ready to face him,” said Nogueira.

For that to happen, a lot of miracles would have to take place and maybe even a few miracles after that. But clearly, Nogueira, the new UFC interim champion, would love the opportunity to avenge his prior defeats to Emelianenko.

However, Emelianenko is not with the UFC and does not look to be joining the top MMA organization anytime soon.

He has his own decisions. He chose another organization. I hope he has a good future there,” said Nogueira.

Still, for Nogueira, the question will always be out there as long as he is title holder: Will it be difficult to receive full championship credit when he never beat Randy Couture for the belt and he lost twice to Emelianenko, the man universally regarded as the best heavyweight in the world?

Yes, Nogueira holds the UFC belt, but just having the belt is not be enough to make him the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world. He’ll need some big victories over some top guys in order to ascend there.

35 COMMENTS
  • Rich B says:

    Maybe Hong Man Choi will sign with the UFC.

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  • Sam Cupitt says:

    Not while Dana White is calling him Long Duck Dong…

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  • Evan says:

    “Not while Dana White is calling him Long Duck Dong…”

    That was a reference to 16 candles.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088128/

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  • Kelvin says:

    “Still, for Nogueira, the question will always be out there as long as he is title holder: Will it be difficult to receive full championship credit when he never beat Randy Couture for the belt and he lost twice to Emelianenko, the man universally regarded as the best heavyweight in the world?”

    Obviously, he can’t be #1…however, he is #2 and always will be ranked higher than Couture IMO(unless Couture grows some nuts and honor’s his contract and defeats Big Nog). He’s fought and beat the better competition at HW

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  • Derek B. says:

    Here’s the thing.

    Randy doesn’t want to fight and lose to nogueira and the reason being is because if Randy loses to Nogueira…there would be no reason for Fedor to even want to fight him considering that Fedor has beaten Nogueira Twice in his career.

    I think it’s best that Randy jumps ship to get out of facing Nogueira for the title match. It can only hurt his career if he loses to Noguiera.

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  • Anon C says:

    Randy’s already lost a lot of matches so I don’t see him losing (if that happened) to Nog as a big deal. Minotauro hasn’t lost to many guys (Fedor, Josh Barnett, Dan Henderson). If they allowed Choi to use knees, everything would change. He barely has to lift his leg to reach most others’ heads. Lesnar may be an interesting factor as well. Otherwise clearly Fedor is still #1. M1 really needs to find him some better match ups.

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  • Davey D says:

    I agree with Derek, #5. Fedor would fight Nogueira if he had to. I stress the word “had” because I believe Fedor, unlike Randy. Would honor his commitment’s if he had to, rather than getting sued and the whole bit.

    Randy on the otherhand will not fight Nogueira because why? He wants to fight Fedor? Fedor doesn’t want to fight Couture in the UFC, a least not right now he doesn’t.

    Mr. Couture, why not try and fight someone who has lost to him twice. Minotauro is also ranked higher than yourself in almost every major poll in the World.

    Anyways, this issue just makes me mad everytime I think about it. But for the record. I think Randy would lose to the both of them in a ring like Pride had or the Octagon. Unified rules/Pride rules/whatever set of rules, Randy will lose. I have always believed Nog’ and Fedor are two of the best HW’s on this planet when it comes to MMA.

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  • Derek B. says:

    Randy is going to do what he wants to do and not what the UFC would like to see him do.

    I think that this fight between randy and fedor would be the top priority for both fighters.

    I think they should fight each other and they both retire after they fight.

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  • ttt says:

    evan re long duck dong … just because it’s a reference to a movie doesn’t make it right. please refer to the whole debate on fight opinion

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  • Captain says:

    You know, I am getting really tired of all this who should be ranked number one crap as if those rankings have some bearing on a fighter’s credibility. Frankly, any fighter rankings are always going to be based on subjective opinions. Right now, some people say Fedor, some say Randy, and some now say Nog. But really, what other people think about rankings doesn’t mean a thing to me on how I feel about Nog or his belt. The fact of the matter is Nog is fighting top competition and has been doing so for years and already has victories over big names. Therefore, I have no reason to question the credibility of his belt or his accomplishments. Nor do any of you for that matter.

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  • cyphron says:

    Randy is going to do what he wants to do and not what the UFC would like to see him do.

    Absolutely right. And the fans will continue to call him out on his perceived cowardice. Perception is reality.

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  • Derek B. says:

    Cyphron its not that randy is a coward…he just feels disrespected by the UFC.

    It’s business every business has it’s ups and downs….this is just one of those downs that randy and the UFC are experiencing.

    He isn’t the only fighter who feels the way that he feels.

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  • cyphron says:

    I understand that. How he did it is not the best way. Had he finished his contract and then call out the UFC then, the fans (and myself) would be squarely behind him. He walked out on a contract that would have had him fight against Nogueira who everyone knows is a very, very bad match up for Randy.

    He misplayed his cards. He’s going to have to live with the consequences.

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  • Derek B. says:

    he didn’t walk out on the contract.

    He resigned from his position with the company.

    You’re allowed to do that legally.

    It’s like if you live in a right to work state…you can be fired at any given moment with no reason for being fired. Well you can legally quit a job by “resigning” without giving a 2 weeks notice. You cannot be punished for that, and the employer cannot legally tell a company that calls up about you how your performance was. They can only say that you worked for the company from start to finish dates.

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  • cyphron says:

    There are “at will” employment contracts and then there are those other contracts that are given to performers.

    Forget it. I’m not going to argue the nuances of this. Lets just leave it to the court to determine it.

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  • BigBad Bradical says:

    Everyone wants to fight Fedor. I’m honestly sick of hearing about Fedor & his ranking. Nog is #1 in the biggest organization right now cuz he earned it & took whoever the UFC put in front of him w/o questioning it. Who has Fedor faught w/in the last yr. to prove he’s truly a #1 fighter? If ranking & being the best in MMA was what this is all about, then Fedor would have signed w/the UFC. He didn’t however, as he went to M-1 for more $$. The UFC is where the best fighters are at, and they’re not necessarily there for the $$ either. So if you look @ it from the business side of it, then yeah Fedor made the right choice to go to M-1, as he’s pulling down $1M per/fight. If you want to view it from a “warrior’s philosophy”, then it simply seems like he’s taking the easy way out w/o having to do much battle. Fedor is & will continue to smash everyone in M-1, and that’s because there aren’t quality fighters to give someone like Fedor the challenge. If he signed w/the UFC, he’d have his wk cut out for him and it wouldn’t be so easy to be, and to live upto the reputation he has now. I assure you there are @ least 2 fighters that can beat Fedor.

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  • Captain says:

    By resigning from his position he is refusing to perform his obligations under the contract and I think you could safely call that walking out on it. I don’t think it’s a question of legality. I mean, anyone can legally break a contract. You just might have some civil consequences to face (e.g., damages, specific performance, etc.).

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  • Captain says:

    “There are “at will” employment contracts and then there are those other contracts that are given to performers.”

    The point of having a contract is so that the employment is not simply at will. At will basically means your employment is governed by state law and subject to whatever the state law says you can quit or be fired at any time. Having a contract with a term makes the parties agree that for a certain length of time the employee will not quit and the employer will not fire them (unless there is cause for termination (as defined in the agreement)) without facing certain consequences (e.g., foregoing bonus pay if you’re the employee, having to pay severance if your the employee).

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  • Nick says:

    Derek- He did walk out on his contract. He resigned from his announcing employement contract. He walked out on his fighting contract.

    Some facts in my opinion on this whole mess
    1. Randy walked out on a legal obligation. If any of us did it in the business world, we would be held financially responsible, so should he.
    2. Randy would lose to Noguera. Randy comes out of no where and wins two fights at heavy weight against an injured Tim sylvia and a green Gonzaga. These two wins do not make him the number two HW in the world. Nog has fought in the division for 10 years and has revenged every loss except Fedor. He could quit tomorrow and be the universal #2 HW in the world.
    3. Randy and Fedor will never fight. And it will be good for Randy, because Fedor may well kill him in the ring. Randy reads his own press to much in my opinion. He thinks he can hang with fedor. If Chuck can knock Randy out, Fedor might knock his nose to the back of his head.

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  • Derek B. says:

    without seeing the contract myself…I can’t say anything to be honest.

    Every contract has holes in it because of wording.

    Its like you can take the bible and make it say whatever you want it to say because you interpret things differently.

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  • cyphron says:

    So if the contract has holes in it then it would be okay for Randy to break it?

    Breaking a contract due to a technicality still makes Randy a goat and a coward.

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  • BigBad Bradical says:

    What is this? A post for law school students/attorneys, or discussion about fighters? F–k what Randy did,he wanted to walk out, he did. NONE OF US are privvy to the specifics of his contract. He left for his intentions, and he will or will not be back. Let’s talk about fighting & fighters, not their contracts. Randy still is, IMO one of the best 3 HW fighters in the WORLD! Fedor is over-hyped, Nog is the man right now (and just a born & bred warrior, and speaking of contracts. . .Arlovksi is gettin’ screwed on his & possibly leaving the UFC.

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  • Minotauro is the interim UFC champ right now. No one really can say for sure what would happen in a fight with Nog. The losses that I remember seeing Randy take were from guys who outweighed him and wore him out, with the exception of Lidell. After the Gonzaga fight, and his overall training over the last 5 or 6 years, that doesn’t seem to be a problem for him anymore. Randy Nog is a pickem fight, and for anyone to say Randy is running from Nog or anyone else is crazy in my oppinion.

    The fact that Fedor went to another league was his choice and his loss. The best fight and win or lose with the best, and the UFC uses this as leverage. Regardless, Fedor is not fighting the best right now, and is letting the game pass him by, and while he wastes time fighting guy’s I might have a half a chance against for a couple years, his game is going to errode. I agreed with the majority of the world a couple years back that he was probably the most skilled fighter out there, and I wanted to see him and Randy fight. Personally, I think that was the only fight Randy really wanted, which again would show his extremely competitive nature.

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  • Evan says:

    “evan re long duck dong … just because it’s a reference to a movie doesn’t make it right. please refer to the whole debate on fight opinion”

    ttt …I was simply pointing out where it came from.

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  • HexRei says:

    # # 20 cyphron Says:
    February 8th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    So if the contract has holes in it then it would be okay for Randy to break it?

    Breaking a contract due to a technicality still makes Randy a goat and a coward.

    Dana has a huge team of lawyers wording those ridiculously impressive contracts. If Randy finds a loophole then good for him. I’m tired of seeing Dana and the Fertittas rake in what must be tens of millions at each event (Tito says ~fifty mil not counting merchandising, and he’s a better businessman than fighter these days so I kinda believe him) and still use these “we own you” contracts while paying them shit.

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  • HexRei says:

    Oops, I meant “oppressive” not impressive. Although I guess they are impressively oppressive.

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  • Rich says:

    ok,
    to #12…

    The UFC hasn’t disrespected Randy… he disrespected the UFC.. he’s not obligating his contract because he can’t get the fight he wants… and really… he doesn’t deserve it.. ya.. he went to HW and totally muffed up Tim and Gonzaga… but what happened before that… he got KTFO’d by Liddell.. i don’t think a 2 fight winning streak get’s you a shot at #1 in the world..

    and i’d just like to say that i pretty much agree w/ #19.. except your third point.. i think Fedor would beat him through wrestling.. … .. he would definately overpower him… that’s for sure..

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  • Derek B. says:

    I really don’t know what’s going to happen. Might as well just forget about it all and let the System work things out.

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  • Mike Wolfe says:

    I’m getting all JJG here. They all suck (Dana, Randy, Titoand Fedor) because they’re not BJJ experts.

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  • c-ing_red says:

    # 22 BigBad Bradical Says:
    February 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
    What is this? A post for law school students/attorneys, or discussion about fighters? F–k what Randy did,he wanted to walk out, he did. NONE OF US are privvy to the specifics of his contract. He left for his intentions, and he will or will not be back. Let’s talk about fighting & fighters, not their contracts. Randy still is, IMO one of the best 3 HW fighters in the WORLD! Fedor is over-hyped, Nog is the man right now (and just a born & bred warrior, and speaking of contracts. . .Arlovksi is gettin’ screwed on his & possibly leaving the UFC.

    Big Bad Brad contradicted himself in the same post. Nice!!!!

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  • Rich says:

    hahaha

    [BIG BAD BRADICAL] STOP TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND START TALKING ABOUT THE FIGHTERS… OH… WAIT, LET’S TALK ABOUT ARLOVSKI’S CONTRACT.

    hahaha

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  • BigBad Bradical says:

    Rich. . .it was a briefly mentioned quip as the topic was already on the subject of “Contracts”. There was no serious intent from me for the dialogue to cease on the subject, so I threw it in on the closing of my banter. I can’t believe you took the time out to type that Rich, I expected more outta you in this forum as you usually have something good to say. Should I start to not take you seriously now on this subject matter? Hmmm. . . But if you wanna point out literary technicalities, then go teach English somewhere. Hahah! Much respect to you still my man, this was in jest!

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  • Beefbowl says:

    RE:
    Randy’s already lost a lot of matches so I don’t see him losing (if that happened) to Nog as a big deal. Minotauro hasn’t lost to many guys (Fedor, Josh Barnett, Dan Henderson). If they allowed Choi to use knees, everything would change. He barely has to lift his leg to reach most others’ heads. Lesnar may be an interesting factor as well. Otherwise clearly Fedor is still #1. M1 really needs to find him some better match ups.

    Big Nog never lost to Dan Henderson. That was lil Nog… his twin brother. Two different guys.

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  • JASON HUGHES says:

    FINAL FOUR, just like in ncaa basketball. Ithink a four man tournament with couture vs nogueria and fedor vs barnett with the winners meeting each other with in a three month time frame would just be the most exiting thing that ever happened to the sport of mma. JUST A DREAM I HAD LAST NIGHT.

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  • JASON HUGHES says:

    all this time off for fedor and randy should have them fresh when they enter the RING

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