Comments on: The WEC comes up big yet again http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: stan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-64294 stan Fri, 23 Jan 2009 07:17:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-64294 hey man awesome fight....i wanna know what is the name of the song while you were walking out to the cage for Urijah Faber. When he was fighting Jeff Curran? hey man awesome fight….i wanna know what is the name of the song while you were walking out to the cage for Urijah Faber. When he was fighting Jeff Curran?

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]]> By: Ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-43131 Ryan Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:28:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-43131 does any body know brian stann's song called he comes out to does any body know brian stann’s song called he comes out to

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]]> By: MMA Kamander http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15505 MMA Kamander Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:18:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15505 This was a great card. MMA Kamander gives this card 4 stars. 4 stars for Carlo Prater vs. Carlos Condit 4 stars for Jamie Varner vs. Rob McCullough 4.5 stars for Miguel Torres vs. Chase Beebe 4 stars for Manny Tapia vs. Antonio Banuelos 3 stars for Hiroyuki Takaya vs. Leonard Garcia Events and fights are rated from 1-5 stars based on: - action and excitement - skill and technique - significance and interest This was a great card.

MMA Kamander gives this card 4 stars.

4 stars for Carlo Prater vs. Carlos Condit
4 stars for Jamie Varner vs. Rob McCullough
4.5 stars for Miguel Torres vs. Chase Beebe
4 stars for Manny Tapia vs. Antonio Banuelos
3 stars for Hiroyuki Takaya vs. Leonard Garcia

Events and fights are rated from 1-5 stars based on:
- action and excitement
- skill and technique
- significance and interest

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15499 THORAZINE Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:55:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15499 WEC is pretty damn good, but sorry I still like UFC better for it's pre-fight build up, Micheal Buffer, Joe Rogan and great lineup of 155lb fighters. WEC is getting better, and I'm a fan of their lightweight division. WEC is pretty damn good, but sorry I still like UFC better for it’s pre-fight build up, Micheal Buffer, Joe Rogan and great lineup of 155lb fighters.

WEC is getting better, and I’m a fan of their lightweight division.

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15468 Kelvin Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:37:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15468 For anybody that thought Tapia should not have won that fight...you lost. For anybody that thought Tapia should not have won that fight…you lost.

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]]> By: Natrix http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15466 Natrix Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:10:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15466 I think Mir does a great job. I find myself hearing what he says, then rewinding to see exactly what he's talking about. When Miguel Torres was bustin out those crazy transitions, Frank Mir "WOW!!" Priceless. I think Mir does a great job. I find myself hearing what he says, then rewinding to see exactly what he’s talking about. When Miguel Torres was bustin out those crazy transitions, Frank Mir “WOW!!” Priceless.

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]]> By: dale hunter is god http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15462 dale hunter is god Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:36:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15462 "What’s the deal with MMA being broadcast in Canada? I read snippits from people complaining about it but I don’t get the whole story. It seems like you can show some MMA but this is only recent" pretty well all of the shows are televised you just have to know what channel it's on, "WEC" was on TSN at about 1am. “What’s the deal with MMA being broadcast in Canada? I read snippits from people complaining about it but I don’t get the whole story. It seems like you can show some MMA but this is only recent” pretty well all of the shows are televised you just have to know what channel it’s on, “WEC” was on TSN at about 1am.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15453 Evan Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:09:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15453 "Too bad it wasn’t aired in Canada." What's the deal with MMA being broadcast in Canada? I read snippits from people complaining about it but I don't get the whole story. It seems like you can show some MMA but this is only recent? “Too bad it wasn’t aired in Canada.”

What’s the deal with MMA being broadcast in Canada? I read snippits from people complaining about it but I don’t get the whole story. It seems like you can show some MMA but this is only recent?

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]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15452 bubbafat Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:01:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15452 I hate to add insult to injury ,but, it was televised on TSN last night untill 11 pacific. It kinda sucks up here becaus for some reason MMA events don't show up on my guide or anything when they are on cable. I got lucky and surfed and caught the last hour. I hate to add insult to injury ,but, it was televised on TSN last night untill 11 pacific. It kinda sucks up here becaus for some reason MMA events don’t show up on my guide or anything when they are on cable. I got lucky and surfed and caught the last hour.

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]]> By: jj http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15450 jj Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:31:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15450 This was a great show! Too bad it wasn't aired in Canada. I don't know if it's the production or the athletes, but WEC fighters seem to "want" it a lot more than some of the UFC guys that are just trying to eek out a win by not losing, rather than taking risks to finish the fight. To me it's not as much about who wins, but if it's an exciting fight. I couldn't agree more about the production of WEC. UFC is extremely cheesy with that stupid 10 year old back to back limp bizkit songs and the corny opera drama crap or any of their other overplayed songs. Their constant ad-whoring is extremely annoying. If I'm paying 40 or 50 bucks to buy a PPV event I don't care about what the new video game is or what the "hot" new movie is (as a general rule I don't watch movies advertised in UFC events). This is a little off topic but every promotion should take a lesson from the recent Cage Rage event, their camera work was GREAT. Nobody else in MMA seems to be able to operate a boom camera in a useful fashion, which is sad because when it's done right it gets you right into the action (without looking through a stupid fence). Also I think the cage should, does it really need to be 6 or 7 feet high? This costs alot of camera angles. This was a great show! Too bad it wasn’t aired in Canada.

I don’t know if it’s the production or the athletes, but WEC fighters seem to “want” it a lot more than some of the UFC guys that are just trying to eek out a win by not losing, rather than taking risks to finish the fight. To me it’s not as much about who wins, but if it’s an exciting fight.

I couldn’t agree more about the production of WEC. UFC is extremely cheesy with that stupid 10 year old back to back limp bizkit songs and the corny opera drama crap or any of their other overplayed songs. Their constant ad-whoring is extremely annoying. If I’m paying 40 or 50 bucks to buy a PPV event I don’t care about what the new video game is or what the “hot” new movie is (as a general rule I don’t watch movies advertised in UFC events).

This is a little off topic but every promotion should take a lesson from the recent Cage Rage event, their camera work was GREAT. Nobody else in MMA seems to be able to operate a boom camera in a useful fashion, which is sad because when it’s done right it gets you right into the action (without looking through a stupid fence). Also I think the cage should, does it really need to be 6 or 7 feet high? This costs alot of camera angles.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15449 Mike Wolfe Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:29:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15449 Mir is the best "play by play" commentator in the business. On several broadcasts including the fights last night he explained how a fighter should react, and just as he completed his sentence, that's exactly what the fighter did. No substitute for personal experience, I guess. Echo the earlier comments about the lighter weight classes; non-stop action and generally fast paced. Really entertaining MMA. Mir is the best “play by play” commentator in the business. On several broadcasts including the fights last night he explained how a fighter should react, and just as he completed his sentence, that’s exactly what the fighter did. No substitute for personal experience, I guess. Echo the earlier comments about the lighter weight classes; non-stop action and generally fast paced. Really entertaining MMA.

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]]> By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15448 Guy Gaduois Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:53:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15448 Jamie Varner's "time out" should fall to blame at the Porn Stache's feet. The scorecard "re-take" was puzzling. But I agree with the quality of broadcast, and thought Mir (Merrrr?) did a fantastic job. His improvement is noticeable and appreciated. The after fight interviews are great for some surprise 'F Bombs' (Varner - nice!), but largely they should let the fighters thank their corner and support, what they're looking forward to and jettison the "walk us through", because more than half the time, the winning fighter can't compose a rational thought. Production was very tight, and I was impressed because they were working from a new venue and there were few noticeable drops. Wanted to hear an announcement for Faber v. Pulver, but the Filho/Sonnen and Marshall/Stann fight looks very, very good. The WEC is a superior product to me as a consumer. I would think a joint promotion UFC/WEC is in the works, likely with the Faber/Pulver fight as an integral part of the card. It would allow a gauging of whether WEC is a viable PPV entity. Seeing if Faber/Pulver makes any kind of buzz around a UFC ppv would be an interesting first step in setting the tone for WEC's future in PPV. Jamie Varner’s “time out” should fall to blame at the Porn Stache’s feet.
The scorecard “re-take” was puzzling.

But I agree with the quality of broadcast, and thought Mir (Merrrr?) did a fantastic job. His improvement is noticeable and appreciated. The after fight interviews are great for some surprise ‘F Bombs’ (Varner – nice!), but largely they should let the fighters thank their corner and support, what they’re looking forward to and jettison the “walk us through”, because more than half the time, the winning fighter can’t compose a rational thought.

Production was very tight, and I was impressed because they were working from a new venue and there were few noticeable drops.

Wanted to hear an announcement for Faber v. Pulver, but the Filho/Sonnen and Marshall/Stann fight looks very, very good.

The WEC is a superior product to me as a consumer. I would think a joint promotion UFC/WEC is in the works, likely with the Faber/Pulver fight as an integral part of the card. It would allow a gauging of whether WEC is a viable PPV entity. Seeing if Faber/Pulver makes any kind of buzz around a UFC ppv would be an interesting first step in setting the tone for WEC’s future in PPV.

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]]> By: roomservicetaco http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15445 roomservicetaco Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:39:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15445 Yes, agree that Mir does a poor job at post-fight interviews. But, overall as I said before, I really like the WEC fights and the Vs. production/commentary team. For some reason I'll never understand, Spike shows UFC at the same time as the WEC . Last night, watched Arelio-Guida during lulls in WEC. It's amazing how annoying the UFC presentation is compared to WEC's straightforward commentary. Goldberg pumps up his faux-hype meter to high and speaks as though he and the audience is seeing mma for the first time. Rogan is getting better and better with his technical insights but no match for someone like Mir (or Faber). The time-out and judging snafu's were not the fault of WEC or Vs. Both have happened in other shows - mma and boxing. Jose Luis Castillo was involved in 2, for example. Once when he won the ltweight title in the dressing room after retabulating the scores and again in the first Corrales fight with the spit mouthpiece. I didn't have a huge problem with the to in the Varner fight. He waited until a lull in the action, then alerted the ref that his mouthpiece was out. That's exactly what the ref should have done anyway. At the time of the pause, McC was not in striking distance. Yes, agree that Mir does a poor job at post-fight interviews. But, overall as I said before, I really like the WEC fights and the Vs. production/commentary team.

For some reason I’ll never understand, Spike shows UFC at the same time as the WEC . Last night, watched Arelio-Guida during lulls in WEC. It’s amazing how annoying the UFC presentation is compared to WEC’s straightforward commentary. Goldberg pumps up his faux-hype meter to high and speaks as though he and the audience is seeing mma for the first time. Rogan is getting better and better with his technical insights but no match for someone like Mir (or Faber).

The time-out and judging snafu’s were not the fault of WEC or Vs. Both have happened in other shows – mma and boxing. Jose Luis Castillo was involved in 2, for example. Once when he won the ltweight title in the dressing room after retabulating the scores and again in the first Corrales fight with the spit mouthpiece.

I didn’t have a huge problem with the to in the Varner fight. He waited until a lull in the action, then alerted the ref that his mouthpiece was out. That’s exactly what the ref should have done anyway. At the time of the pause, McC was not in striking distance.

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]]> By: Danny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15444 Danny Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:38:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15444 how weird that i work in the same building as beebe's dad and my wife's 9yr old cousin attends torres' school. that torres guy is sick. he reminded me alot of nate diaz in the way that he is constantly firing off subs. beebe had no answer 4 this guy. how weird that i work in the same building as beebe’s dad and my wife’s 9yr old cousin attends torres’ school. that torres guy is sick. he reminded me alot of nate diaz in the way that he is constantly firing off subs. beebe had no answer 4 this guy.

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]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15443 Derek B. Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:23:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15443 Garth I too thought that was very unprofessional when they messed up the cards on the first fight. I can only imagine how that made Antonio feel to know he lost fight..after they said it was a draw. That was the only problem I seen. Garth I too thought that was very unprofessional when they messed up the cards on the first fight. I can only imagine how that made Antonio feel to know he lost fight..after they said it was a draw.

That was the only problem I seen.

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]]> By: garth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15440 garth Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:56:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15440 I disagree on some points. The handling of the aftermath of the tapia fight, with the ring announcer starting and stopping, was goofy, as well as the fact that they couldn't count 6 numbers properly. Add to that the unbelievable "timeout" call in the varner-mccullough fight and you have something that left me with an amateurish feel. Of course, the fact that they had a ring entrance that was longer than 50' was nice, even though many of the crowd shots showed a less-than-capacity house. anyone have attendance numbers? i missed the PPV aspect in an important respect: the undercard fights looked like there was some super-exciting stuff. i saw (on sherdog's PBP) some neat results i'd like to get an eyeball on. as for the production, some tribal tattoo art and cheap nu metal doesn't do it for me. the whole "gritty art + talking head" thing's gotta go, it's tired as hell. UFC does it with gladiators, WEC does it with frat boy tats. yawrn. Frank Mir is awesome, and Urijah Faber dropping the "mex mullet" comment on Torres (who's a MONSTER...) was sweet. Viva la mullet! overall a nice card. I disagree on some points. The handling of the aftermath of the tapia fight, with the ring announcer starting and stopping, was goofy, as well as the fact that they couldn’t count 6 numbers properly. Add to that the unbelievable “timeout” call in the varner-mccullough fight and you have something that left me with an amateurish feel. Of course, the fact that they had a ring entrance that was longer than 50′ was nice, even though many of the crowd shots showed a less-than-capacity house. anyone have attendance numbers?
i missed the PPV aspect in an important respect: the undercard fights looked like there was some super-exciting stuff. i saw (on sherdog’s PBP) some neat results i’d like to get an eyeball on.
as for the production, some tribal tattoo art and cheap nu metal doesn’t do it for me. the whole “gritty art + talking head” thing’s gotta go, it’s tired as hell. UFC does it with gladiators, WEC does it with frat boy tats. yawrn.
Frank Mir is awesome, and Urijah Faber dropping the “mex mullet” comment on Torres (who’s a MONSTER…) was sweet. Viva la mullet!
overall a nice card.

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]]> By: Ian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15435 Ian Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:54:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15435 Basically just a whole lot of agreement on this end. Great card and production last night. 2 in a row, as I see it. Also agree with the commentating. Mir does a great job, leaving only something to be desired in the post fight interviews. I can forgive that though, most people don't know how hard it is to get athlete's to say something interesting or insightful after they've just spent almost the entirety of their energy and emotion on the field, in the ring, octagon, or what have you. Basically just a whole lot of agreement on this end. Great card and production last night. 2 in a row, as I see it. Also agree with the commentating. Mir does a great job, leaving only something to be desired in the post fight interviews. I can forgive that though, most people don’t know how hard it is to get athlete’s to say something interesting or insightful after they’ve just spent almost the entirety of their energy and emotion on the field, in the ring, octagon, or what have you.

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]]> By: Dan K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15432 Dan K. Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15432 Did anyone besides me see the UFC 82 Ad during the WEC event last night that said Keith Jardine was fighting Kongo (Instead of herring)? I even had to rewind it like 5 times on my DVR and I swear they said his name? Am I crazy? Did I miss an announcement? Did anyone besides me see the UFC 82 Ad during the WEC event last night that said Keith Jardine was fighting Kongo (Instead of herring)? I even had to rewind it like 5 times on my DVR and I swear they said his name? Am I crazy? Did I miss an announcement?

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]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15431 Derek B. Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:35:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15431 GREAT! I seen Chase lose his belt in fashion. That was the last fight that I seen that night. It was crazy how Miguel was able to transition from 3 different Submission and end up winning with the Gulliotine choke. I think the WEC has the most exciting fights. I love watching the lighter weight fighters. GREAT!

I seen Chase lose his belt in fashion. That was the last fight that I seen that night. It was crazy how Miguel was able to transition from 3 different Submission and end up winning with the Gulliotine choke.

I think the WEC has the most exciting fights. I love watching the lighter weight fighters.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15430 Sam Cupitt Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:22:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/14/world-extreme-cagefighting-comes-up-big-yet-again/#comment-15430 Razor Rob lost his belt and so did Chase Beebe. Carlos Condit kept his. Razor Rob lost his belt and so did Chase Beebe. Carlos Condit kept his.

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