Comments on: Paul Buentello calls out Kimbo Slice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:23:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: dice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16133 dice Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:59:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16133 Oh and about Fedor, well do you know what Sambo is? Oh and about Fedor, well do you know what Sambo is?

]]> By: dice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16131 dice Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:54:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16131 Rich I think you are the only guy who is having trouble deciphering my post. I was making what we call a blanket statement when I said that you shouldn't have to baby guys like lesnar and slice when paying them big money. Never, in my post do I say that this is what the UFC DID. In fact I say the opposite, stating that I am giving Dana White credit for at least trying to test Lesnar. The whole point of the post was to show how the UFC and Elitexc are taking different routes with 2 guys who share a lot of similarities. So I will say it again, reread the post. As far as your comments regarding the submission skills of heavyweights, well I want to thank you for making yourself look like a complete idiot. (hint: google "ADCC") You sound like Mike Goldberg when talking about Mir. He has a very good ground game but has never been world class. Just take a quick glance at his submission victories, tapping guys like Abbott, Williams, Hardonk and Lesnar doesn't mean that you are the best heavyweight submission artist out there. Rich I think you are the only guy who is having trouble deciphering my post.

I was making what we call a blanket statement when I said that you shouldn’t have to baby guys like lesnar and slice when paying them big money. Never, in my post do I say that this is what the UFC DID. In fact I say the opposite, stating that I am giving Dana White credit for at least trying to test Lesnar. The whole point of the post was to show how the UFC and Elitexc are taking different routes with 2 guys who share a lot of similarities. So I will say it again, reread the post.

As far as your comments regarding the submission skills of heavyweights, well I want to thank you for making yourself look like a complete idiot. (hint: google “ADCC”) You sound like Mike Goldberg when talking about Mir. He has a very good ground game but has never been world class. Just take a quick glance at his submission victories, tapping guys like Abbott, Williams, Hardonk and Lesnar doesn’t mean that you are the best heavyweight submission artist out there.

]]> By: Grape Knee High http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16123 Grape Knee High Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:16:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16123 Rich, do you have Down Syndrome? Rich, do you have Down Syndrome?

]]> By: Rich http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16105 Rich Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:37:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16105 first of all.. i didn't read what i wanted to read... you clearly stated LESNAR ANNNNND SLICE.. and then said they should have to baby THEMMMMM.. you DID include Lesnar... all i was saying is that you shouldn't have said THEMMMM... and should have mentioned just SLICE.. nothing personal... and.. De Pano??? one of the best HW sub'ists.. why won't you people give Mir his credit?? i'll admit.. Nog's got great sub's... but Werdum and De Pano ahead of Mir is just stupid... and although Fedor has good sub victories.. i wouldn't call him a sub'ist.. first of all..

i didn’t read what i wanted to read… you clearly stated LESNAR ANNNNND SLICE.. and then said they should have to baby THEMMMMM.. you DID include Lesnar… all i was saying is that you shouldn’t have said THEMMMM… and should have mentioned just SLICE.. nothing personal…

and..

De Pano??? one of the best HW sub’ists..

why won’t you people give Mir his credit??

i’ll admit.. Nog’s got great sub’s… but Werdum and De Pano ahead of Mir is just stupid…

and although Fedor has good sub victories.. i wouldn’t call him a sub’ist..

]]> By: dice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16069 dice Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:57:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16069 Rich, reread my post. I didn't contradict myself at all, you just read what you wanted to read. I explicitly state that Dana white didn't baby lesnar. I then go on to say that guys who make the kind of money that lesnar and kimbo do should never be babied. Note that there is a big difference between the word "shouldn't" and the word "did". I noticed that you didn't quote my entire sentences and instead choose to take little snippets out. Next time quote my entire sentence instead of trying to misrepresent what I said. PS. Mir as the best submission heavy out there? Don't think so, all his subs have come against guys who have zero ground game. Guys like nog, werdum, Fedor, and De Pano all have better ground games. Rich, reread my post.

I didn’t contradict myself at all, you just read what you wanted to read. I explicitly state that Dana white didn’t baby lesnar. I then go on to say that guys who make the kind of money that lesnar and kimbo do should never be babied. Note that there is a big difference between the word “shouldn’t” and the word “did”.

I noticed that you didn’t quote my entire sentences and instead choose to take little snippets out. Next time quote my entire sentence instead of trying to misrepresent what I said.

PS. Mir as the best submission heavy out there? Don’t think so, all his subs have come against guys who have zero ground game. Guys like nog, werdum, Fedor, and De Pano all have better ground games.

]]> By: Rich http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16067 Rich Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:52:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16067 agreed with adam Lightfield agreed with adam Lightfield

]]> By: Shawn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16056 Shawn Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:13:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16056 Agreed. Buentello is good but he knows that despite his superior skill level, or at least much more experienced skill level, Kimbo is not only the much bigger draw but one of the bigger draws in MMA right now. Buentello is the only one that guarantees to gain from such a match. Just by fighting Kimbo Buentello gets his name back in the spotlight and if he wins, holy shit his stock would skyrocket. On the other hand EXC is taking a huge risk by putting their new sugar momma Kimbo into a fight he could lose too early. Kimbo needs at least another fight or two before he steps in against a legit contender. If Kimbo destroys Ken Shamrock or Sean Gannon in brutal first round stoppages, have him step in the cage with Buentello. If Kimbo then beats Buentello somehow that's when we see him fight Bigfoot to crown the EXC heavyweight champion. Agreed. Buentello is good but he knows that despite his superior skill level, or at least much more experienced skill level, Kimbo is not only the much bigger draw but one of the bigger draws in MMA right now. Buentello is the only one that guarantees to gain from such a match. Just by fighting Kimbo Buentello gets his name back in the spotlight and if he wins, holy shit his stock would skyrocket. On the other hand EXC is taking a huge risk by putting their new sugar momma Kimbo into a fight he could lose too early. Kimbo needs at least another fight or two before he steps in against a legit contender. If Kimbo destroys Ken Shamrock or Sean Gannon in brutal first round stoppages, have him step in the cage with Buentello. If Kimbo then beats Buentello somehow that’s when we see him fight Bigfoot to crown the EXC heavyweight champion.

]]> By: Grape Knee High http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16054 Grape Knee High Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16054 "People want to see it. I think everybody wants to see it." I feel bad for Buentello. Nobody wants to see him fight and he knows it. That's why he has to beg for a freak-show fight on the radio. “People want to see it. I think everybody wants to see it.”

I feel bad for Buentello. Nobody wants to see him fight and he knows it. That’s why he has to beg for a freak-show fight on the radio.

]]> By: Mikey Gilz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16053 Mikey Gilz Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:22:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16053 In my opinion. Kimbo Slice has had 2 opponents take dives against him. Tank didn't come to win that fight. And Cantrell took the most obvious dive i've ever seen. With that said, Let's not forget that Kimbo has had 3 mma fights in total. No amateur matches. Let's give him a few more fights before he steps into the cage with a former UFC title contender. In my opinion. Kimbo Slice has had 2 opponents take dives against him. Tank didn’t come to win that fight. And Cantrell took the most obvious dive i’ve ever seen. With that said, Let’s not forget that Kimbo has had 3 mma fights in total. No amateur matches. Let’s give him a few more fights before he steps into the cage with a former UFC title contender.

]]> By: adam Lightfield http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16052 adam Lightfield Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:45:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/19/paul-buentello-calls-out-kimbo-slice/#comment-16052 Kimbo can probably bang with anyone in the heavyweight division, i would be wary of Buentello's kicks though, he could try to keep his distance and work Kimbo over to try to chop him down. Other than that I think Kimbo would lay him out. Kimbo can probably bang with anyone in the heavyweight division, i would be wary of Buentello’s kicks though, he could try to keep his distance and work Kimbo over to try to chop him down. Other than that I think Kimbo would lay him out.

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