Comments on: Upon further review, the UFC has a deep middleweight division http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:00:41 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Zantetzuken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18207 Zantetzuken Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:20:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18207 By stating Okami's asian ethnicity i was simply trying to show how everyone under estimates not only him but ANYONE that enters the octagon that is not American. It happens everytime theres an American Vs a non-Amercian. The only person who didn't hear the "USA" chants durring the Okami fight and the Herring fight AND the GSP Vs Hughes rematch and so many more were sleeping durring the fights because even a blind, deaf, and dumb person heard it. The guy sitting next to me was wondering why i was jumping out of my chair yelling when Okami KOed Tanner. His exact words were "You were going for the asian?". I guess ill be the only one placing a bet on Okami when he gets his title shot. By stating Okami’s asian ethnicity i was simply trying to show how everyone under estimates not only him but ANYONE that enters the octagon that is not American. It happens everytime theres an American Vs a non-Amercian. The only person who didn’t hear the “USA” chants durring the Okami fight and the Herring fight AND the GSP Vs Hughes rematch and so many more were sleeping durring the fights because even a blind, deaf, and dumb person heard it. The guy sitting next to me was wondering why i was jumping out of my chair yelling when Okami KOed Tanner. His exact words were “You were going for the asian?”. I guess ill be the only one placing a bet on Okami when he gets his title shot.

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]]> By: Chuck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18190 Chuck Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:19:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18190 you have just insulted fighters #19-#30 .... KGrove "should" be #31, at best ! you have just insulted fighters #19-#30 …. KGrove “should” be #31, at best !

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]]> By: orlando http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18098 orlando Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:59:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18098 i want to see damien maia against him man.....his brazilian also...but i think he might give him the best run thats the best grappler in mma today barnone..... i want to see damien maia against him man…..his brazilian also…but i think he might give him the best run thats the best grappler in mma today barnone…..

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18071 nate Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:11:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18071 Silva is the freaking man. such a consistently entertaining fighter. Silva is the freaking man. such a consistently entertaining fighter.

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]]> By: Andrej http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18066 Andrej Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:35:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18066 I would add Timothy Creduer, CB Dollaway and Dante Rivera as decent prospect's but we will see In the next TUF season. I'm not sure about Patrick Cote ranked so high? Maybe A Fight with Ricardo Almeida or Dean Lister. Then I might rank him 10-15. My Top 10 are - (in UFC only) - 1. Anderson Silva, 2. Rich Franklin, 3. Yushin Okami, 4. Dan Henderson (If he stays), 5. Nate Marquardt, 6. Ed Herman, 7. Chris Leben, 8. Martin Kampmann, 9. Jason MacDonald, 10. Thales Leites. not to shabby in my mind. I would add Timothy Creduer, CB Dollaway and Dante Rivera as decent prospect’s but we will see In the next TUF season.

I’m not sure about Patrick Cote ranked so high? Maybe A Fight with Ricardo Almeida or Dean Lister. Then I might rank him 10-15. My Top 10 are – (in UFC only) – 1. Anderson Silva, 2. Rich Franklin, 3. Yushin Okami, 4. Dan Henderson (If he stays), 5. Nate Marquardt, 6. Ed Herman, 7. Chris Leben, 8. Martin Kampmann, 9. Jason MacDonald, 10. Thales Leites. not to shabby in my mind.

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]]> By: Ross B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18011 Ross B Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:50:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18011 Oh and Almeida looked sensational in his return last month, he could quickly become a number one contender after Okami gets his title shot. If there is six to eight months between the Okami fight and the next title shot, is it really a big deal? Oh and Almeida looked sensational in his return last month, he could quickly become a number one contender after Okami gets his title shot. If there is six to eight months between the Okami fight and the next title shot, is it really a big deal?

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]]> By: robnashville http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18009 robnashville Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:47:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18009 Bisping and Herman? Definite suspects... i have a hard time seeing either of these guys evolve into Top 10 MW's. Maia? jury is out on him...he's a great bjj guy but really haven't seen enuff of him to know if he is a possibly great mma fighter..... Leites i would give a shot at evolving into a possible upper shelf guy. Bisping and Herman? Definite suspects… i have a hard time seeing either of these guys evolve into Top 10 MW’s. Maia? jury is out on him…he’s a great bjj guy but really haven’t seen enuff of him to know if he is a possibly great mma fighter….. Leites i would give a shot at evolving into a possible upper shelf guy.

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]]> By: Ross B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18008 Ross B Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:47:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18008 Agreed, middleweight is nowhere as near shallow as it has been portrayed. Silva has an excellent challenge ahead of him in Okami, which could come in the next six months. "After that" is a long way away in MMA terms, especially in a flexible division such as 185 lbs where many guys can quickly drop down from 205 lbs, and there is also the possibility of big welterweights moving up. GSP could move up if he lost to Serra. BJ could move back up in two/three fights from now, he has expressed great interest at fighting middleweight before. There is also a wealth of talent outside the UFC at 185 lbs. Lawler, Lindland, Shamrock, Le, Louiseau, and more are out there. As unlikely as it might seem some of these would/could be contracted by the UFC, this is MMA, unexpected things happen. If the UFC is REALLY in need of a contender for Silva in the future, they can make unexpected things happen. I really don't see them having trouble keeping their middleweight division well stocked with contenders. Agreed, middleweight is nowhere as near shallow as it has been portrayed. Silva has an excellent challenge ahead of him in Okami, which could come in the next six months. “After that” is a long way away in MMA terms, especially in a flexible division such as 185 lbs where many guys can quickly drop down from 205 lbs, and there is also the possibility of big welterweights moving up. GSP could move up if he lost to Serra. BJ could move back up in two/three fights from now, he has expressed great interest at fighting middleweight before.

There is also a wealth of talent outside the UFC at 185 lbs. Lawler, Lindland, Shamrock, Le, Louiseau, and more are out there. As unlikely as it might seem some of these would/could be contracted by the UFC, this is MMA, unexpected things happen. If the UFC is REALLY in need of a contender for Silva in the future, they can make unexpected things happen. I really don’t see them having trouble keeping their middleweight division well stocked with contenders.

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-18003 Kelvin Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:39:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-18003 "Okami is a more systematic striker than hendo. hendo swings 4 the fences on his punches and often leaves himself open 4 huge counters. okami has patience and thats something no fighter has shown against silva. he’s strong, quick, and young. and okami is a different type of fighter on the ground where as not only is he gonna try to GNP but also look to pass try some subs. dont get me wrong. i wouldnt be surprised to see silva walk thru him too. i just think that okami has a VERY serious chance to beat him." Danny, Franklin nor Marquardt swung for the fences...both were cautious and showed patience...the end result was the same...a relative easy win for Silva....and Okami will be no different...lol “Okami is a more systematic striker than hendo. hendo swings 4 the fences on his punches and often leaves himself open 4 huge counters. okami has patience and thats something no fighter has shown against silva. he’s strong, quick, and young. and okami is a different type of fighter on the ground where as not only is he gonna try to GNP but also look to pass try some subs. dont get me wrong. i wouldnt be surprised to see silva walk thru him too. i just think that okami has a VERY serious chance to beat him.”

Danny,

Franklin nor Marquardt swung for the fences…both were cautious and showed patience…the end result was the same…a relative easy win for Silva….and Okami will be no different…lol

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/comment-page-1/#comment-17995 Sam Caplan Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:36:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/04/upon-further-review-the-ufc-has-a-deep-middleweight-division/#comment-17995 You don't think Maia, Leites, and Bisping are legit prospects? You don’t think Maia, Leites, and Bisping are legit prospects?

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