Comments on: Fedor vs. Randy still possible in the UFC? (updated) http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: jason hughes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-21210 jason hughes Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:10:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-21210 lots of bad quotes, randy would smash fedor,the ufc is unwilling to comprmise, come on. If dana was as strict with the intrests of the ufc he would have already put an end to the idea of anderson fighting roy jones jr already, and we know that randy is ever going to actually smash fedor, he might cut him or decision him if they ever end up fighting. Ithink the ufc loses big time if someone else pulls this fight off and it ends up in a ring because i think fedor has a huge advantage, throw in 3 or4 middle of the road fights with good non ufc fighters,and there are alot of them out there and i think the chances of a good night of fighting are there for the taking.IT wouldnt take much to hype this fight to the true mma fans who have knowledge of the the sport not just the brand name like ufc or pride or ifl etc etc. lots of bad quotes, randy would smash fedor,the ufc is unwilling to comprmise, come on. If dana was as strict with the intrests of the ufc he would have already put an end to the idea of anderson fighting roy jones jr already, and we know that randy is ever going to actually smash fedor, he might cut him or decision him if they ever end up fighting. Ithink the ufc loses big time if someone else pulls this fight off and it ends up in a ring because i think fedor has a huge advantage, throw in 3 or4 middle of the road fights with good non ufc fighters,and there are alot of them out there and i think the chances of a good night of fighting are there for the taking.IT wouldnt take much to hype this fight to the true mma fans who have knowledge of the the sport not just the brand name like ufc or pride or ifl etc etc.

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]]> By: Cláudio http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-20844 Cláudio Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:16:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-20844 Stop with all this shit, before Randy´s fight with Fedor, he must provide us the final prove that he is that good, it means he has to fight Minotauro Nog and, despite i admire Randy, I believe that he will have a fire test, from there we will see what would be Randy to Fedor Stop with all this shit, before Randy´s fight with Fedor, he must provide us the final prove that he is that good, it means he has to fight Minotauro Nog and, despite i admire Randy, I believe that he will have a fire test, from there we will see what would be Randy to Fedor

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]]> By: Juelz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-19244 Juelz Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:25:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-19244 Fedor is already included in DREAMs trailers and build up for DREAM 1. Also in an interview Crocop talking about a rematch being a possibility and he signed with DREAM. So forget a fight between Randy and Fedor in the UFC, it really doesn't matter for me where the fight takes place but i guess fedor will fight in DREAM but i'm not sure if Randy wants to fight in japan. They will probably make the most money if they fought in the US so the only possible scenario i can see is a one fight deal with HDnet and then Fedor will move on to DREAM. Fedor is already included in DREAMs trailers and build up for DREAM 1.
Also in an interview Crocop talking about a rematch being a possibility and he signed with DREAM.
So forget a fight between Randy and Fedor in the UFC, it really doesn’t matter for me where the fight takes place but i guess fedor will fight in DREAM but i’m not sure if Randy wants to fight in japan.
They will probably make the most money if they fought in the US so the only possible scenario i can see is a one fight deal with HDnet and then Fedor will move on to DREAM.

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]]> By: alemão http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-19144 alemão Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:24:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-19144 BRASIL!!! BRASIL!!! CORINTHIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRASIL!!!
BRASIL!!!

CORINTHIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: alemão http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-19140 alemão Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:22:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-19140 PODE VIM FEDOR! NÓIS DO BNRASIL SOMOS O MELHORES! CORINTHIANS MINHA VIDA ,CORINTHIANS MINHA HISTÓRIA, CORINTHIANS MEU AMOR! PODE VIM FEDOR!
NÓIS DO BNRASIL SOMOS O MELHORES!

CORINTHIANS MINHA VIDA ,CORINTHIANS MINHA HISTÓRIA, CORINTHIANS MEU AMOR!

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]]> By: No one really left for Fedor to fight http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18647 No one really left for Fedor to fight Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:49:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18647 Agree with J-J guy. Anyway, aside from the contractual issues, does anyone out there seriously think Randy (16-8) can beat Fedor ( no real losses)? I think probably not. Fedor manhandled Big Nog twice already. It's not even clear Randy would beat Nog. I like Randy but he's not getting any younger. I think Fedor is clearly #1, but who is there for him to fight? Super HW Choi with knees allowed? We only say Randy because Randy was UFC champ. The old Pride guys already kicked all the UFC guys' butts and took the titles and let's face it Big Nog is not even in the same league as Fedor. Randy vs. Nog might be interesting. I think this realistic matchup problem is the reason Pride had some of those totally ridiculous matchups. At least they were entertaining in a pro-wrestling sort of way. Agree with J-J guy. Anyway, aside from the contractual issues, does anyone out there seriously think Randy (16-8) can beat Fedor ( no real losses)? I think probably not. Fedor manhandled Big Nog twice already. It’s not even clear Randy would beat Nog. I like Randy but he’s not getting any younger. I think Fedor is clearly #1, but who is there for him to fight? Super HW Choi with knees allowed? We only say Randy because Randy was UFC champ. The old Pride guys already kicked all the UFC guys’ butts and took the titles and let’s face it Big Nog is not even in the same league as Fedor. Randy vs. Nog might be interesting.

I think this realistic matchup problem is the reason Pride had some of those totally ridiculous matchups. At least they were entertaining in a pro-wrestling sort of way.

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]]> By: Jiu-Jitsu Guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18611 Jiu-Jitsu Guy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:40:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18611 Why does Dana White always take sides on fighters? He is a piece of sh*t. Why does Dana White always take sides on fighters? He is a piece of sh*t.

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]]> By: Zantetzuken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18593 Zantetzuken Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:51:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18593 3 way fight IMO lol. Battle Royal for the Heavyweight Title! Strap it onto a chain and hang it high above the octagon! Have ladders were the 3 would fight till the bitter end to grab it! Oh wait... 3 way fight IMO lol. Battle Royal for the Heavyweight Title! Strap it onto a chain and hang it high above the octagon! Have ladders were the 3 would fight till the bitter end to grab it! Oh wait…

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]]> By: Keenan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18584 Keenan Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:58:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18584 definetly fedor vs randy first... do u have Nog fight in between? definetly fedor vs randy first… do u have Nog fight in between?

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]]> By: Nick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18581 Nick Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:19:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18581 He really thinks Randy would smash Fedor? wow. He really thinks Randy would smash Fedor? wow.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18580 mike wolfe Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:18:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18580 There is a lot of nuance to this, and more than just UFC and Dana White. Fedor's management has an approach and an agenda that's difficult to discern. Their dealings with M-1 should give UFC or any org. reservations about contracts with them. They signed with M-1 and apparently haven't cooperated meaningfully since then. What makes everybody think that they'll perform after they sign with UFC? Furthermore, how do we know that Fedor is calling the shots, or that he even knows what Vadim is up to? I don't think he speaks English, so who's keeping him informed, and what are they telling him? This wouldn't be the first time that a fighter is used like a pawn by his manager. Don King, anybody? There is a lot of nuance to this, and more than just UFC and Dana White. Fedor’s management has an approach and an agenda that’s difficult to discern. Their dealings with M-1 should give UFC or any org. reservations about contracts with them. They signed with M-1 and apparently haven’t cooperated meaningfully since then. What makes everybody think that they’ll perform after they sign with UFC? Furthermore, how do we know that Fedor is calling the shots, or that he even knows what Vadim is up to? I don’t think he speaks English, so who’s keeping him informed, and what are they telling him? This wouldn’t be the first time that a fighter is used like a pawn by his manager. Don King, anybody?

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]]> By: cyphron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18575 cyphron Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:48:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18575 Isn't this the same Monte Cox who said that Fedor is not fighting in Japan NYE? And Fedor still fought in Japan NYE. This is a case of the head not knowing what the body is doing. Monte Cox and M-1 is a sinking boat and Fedor is abandoning ship. Ha, 2 mill a fight. I thought it was ludicrous that an organization would pay him 2 mil a fight when there are no fighters to fight and no arenas to sell. It's a shell game and anyone who invested in this is out of his money. M-1 will fold within the year. Isn’t this the same Monte Cox who said that Fedor is not fighting in Japan NYE? And Fedor still fought in Japan NYE. This is a case of the head not knowing what the body is doing. Monte Cox and M-1 is a sinking boat and Fedor is abandoning ship.

Ha, 2 mill a fight. I thought it was ludicrous that an organization would pay him 2 mil a fight when there are no fighters to fight and no arenas to sell. It’s a shell game and anyone who invested in this is out of his money. M-1 will fold within the year.

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]]> By: dice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18570 dice Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:22:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18570 # # 18 Andrej Says: March 6th, 2008 at 10:23 pm "Who Else will pay Fedor Emelianko $$$? DREAM, Affliction, UFC and WVR (They Signed Takanomi Gomi os maybe). And there is no way EliteXC will get him or afford to pay what he demand’s." First, Elitexc can definitely afford him. They have enough money behind them right now to get a high profile free agent like Fedor. Will they do it? Doubt it, since they seem to be more interested in creating personalities rather than signing top fighters. But I wouldn't rule them out just yet. You seem to forget the most obvious of choices: HDnet. They have the resources and seem to be interested in building a top notch organization. Everyone seems to be real concerned with the lack of households that the channel can reach, but I think that will be changing soon since anyone who has ever seen it, wants it(its the highest quality HD channel I have). I see no possible way that Fedor will sign with the UFC, since we all know that the UFC refuses to compromise. # 39 ctownhood Says: March 7th, 2008 at 9:49 am "I hope this happens..I do feel Fedor is the best…but he is definitely motivated by $$$, and not necessarily fighting the best fighters." $$ and fighting the top fighters isn't/shouldn't be mutually exclusive options. Here is a wild idea, maybe he could make the most money while fighting the top fighters. Also I think that Fedor is interested in the freedom of his contract more than anything else. The UFC contract was competitive with just about any other offer he recieved (as far as we know), but had too many restrictions. Your comment that "the UFC should be able to throw enough dough at him.." doesn't make sense. They always had enough dough to get him. But as fedor said in a statement regarding the issue, the contract had so many stipulations and clauses that it was told to him by his lawyers that it was patently impossible to sign it. # # 18 Andrej Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

“Who Else will pay Fedor Emelianko $$$? DREAM, Affliction, UFC and WVR (They Signed Takanomi Gomi os maybe). And there is no way EliteXC will get him or afford to pay what he demand’s.”

First, Elitexc can definitely afford him. They have enough money behind them right now to get a high profile free agent like Fedor. Will they do it? Doubt it, since they seem to be more interested in creating personalities rather than signing top fighters. But I wouldn’t rule them out just yet.

You seem to forget the most obvious of choices: HDnet. They have the resources and seem to be interested in building a top notch organization. Everyone seems to be real concerned with the lack of households that the channel can reach, but I think that will be changing soon since anyone who has ever seen it, wants it(its the highest quality HD channel I have). I see no possible way that Fedor will sign with the UFC, since we all know that the UFC refuses to compromise.

# 39 ctownhood Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 9:49 am

“I hope this happens..I do feel Fedor is the best…but he is definitely motivated by $$$, and not necessarily fighting the best fighters.”

$$ and fighting the top fighters isn’t/shouldn’t be mutually exclusive options. Here is a wild idea, maybe he could make the most money while fighting the top fighters. Also I think that Fedor is interested in the freedom of his contract more than anything else. The UFC contract was competitive with just about any other offer he recieved (as far as we know), but had too many restrictions. Your comment that “the UFC should be able to throw enough dough at him..” doesn’t make sense. They always had enough dough to get him. But as fedor said in a statement regarding the issue, the contract had so many stipulations and clauses that it was told to him by his lawyers that it was patently impossible to sign it.

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]]> By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18564 ctownhood Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:49:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18564 I hope this happens..I do feel Fedor is the best...but he is definitely motivated by $$$, and not necessarily fighting the best fighters. The UFC should be able to throw enough dough at him to make this happen. I hope Fedor makes having a fight with Dana part of the negotiations though ;) I hope this happens..I do feel Fedor is the best…but he is definitely motivated by $$$, and not necessarily fighting the best fighters. The UFC should be able to throw enough dough at him to make this happen. I hope Fedor makes having a fight with Dana part of the negotiations though ;)

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]]> By: Eric http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18558 Eric Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:11:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18558 It wouldn't be 3 rounds. Randy is still the champ and the UFC has never said otherwise about that fact. It will be 5 if they ever fight. And Dana isn't dumb enough to put off the big money fight of Randy and Fedor. Nog will wait for the winner and that fight will unify Randy/Fedor's heavyweight title and Nog's interim title. It wouldn’t be 3 rounds. Randy is still the champ and the UFC has never said otherwise about that fact. It will be 5 if they ever fight. And Dana isn’t dumb enough to put off the big money fight of Randy and Fedor. Nog will wait for the winner and that fight will unify Randy/Fedor’s heavyweight title and Nog’s interim title.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18557 Sam Cupitt Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:56:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18557 Everyone would have an angergasm if they made that fight 3 rounds. Everyone would have an angergasm if they made that fight 3 rounds.

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]]> By: brutus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18556 brutus Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:53:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18556 For the UFC to do it, they would have to strip Randy of the belt and make Nog the only champ. That way randy and fedor can fight a #1 contender of sorts. Probably won't happen though. For the UFC to do it, they would have to strip Randy of the belt and make Nog the only champ. That way randy and fedor can fight a #1 contender of sorts. Probably won’t happen though.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18554 Sam Cupitt Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:42:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18554 It will be hilarious if this does happen because Nogueira will be sitting there with his interim belt waiting to fight Randy. Then Fedor comes in to fight Randy and Nogueira is just sitting their with his interim title that means fuck all. Interim champion usually means number 1 contender, but if they sign Fedor it basically means Nog has a belt which says he's the "third best heavyweight". It will be hilarious if this does happen because Nogueira will be sitting there with his interim belt waiting to fight Randy.

Then Fedor comes in to fight Randy and Nogueira is just sitting their with his interim title that means fuck all. Interim champion usually means number 1 contender, but if they sign Fedor it basically means Nog has a belt which says he’s the “third best heavyweight”.

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]]> By: ufcfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18548 ufcfan Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:15:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18548 here's where the idea of an interm belt could make sense. you could put the randy-fedor fight on for the title and the winner face nog for the "unified" title. this has been such a roller coaster ride that until it's signed "in blood" (LOL) i can't believe any of these reports. here’s where the idea of an interm belt could make sense.

you could put the randy-fedor fight on for the title
and the winner face nog for the “unified” title.

this has been such a roller coaster ride that until it’s signed “in blood” (LOL)
i can’t believe any of these reports.

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-18547 Kelvin Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:01:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/#comment-18547 If the Fedor/Randy fight doesn't happen now...I don't think you can blame Dana White this time(I didn't blame him the first time)...if these two guys want to fight each other...they need to make it happen. If the Fedor/Randy fight doesn’t happen now…I don’t think you can blame Dana White this time(I didn’t blame him the first time)…if these two guys want to fight each other…they need to make it happen.

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