Comments on: Fact, Fiction, and Fedor (update) http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rauhski http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-19184 Rauhski Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:30:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-19184 The real question here is... If the UFC can get a deal done with Fedor, will Randy come back to fight him? If Randy does want to come back and fight him, which is very unlikely at this point, does Nog has the first shot a Randy? How can the UFC give Fedor the title shot against Randy? I'm interested to here your opinions on this. The real question here is… If the UFC can get a deal done with Fedor, will Randy come back to fight him? If Randy does want to come back and fight him, which is very unlikely at this point, does Nog has the first shot a Randy?
How can the UFC give Fedor the title shot against Randy? I’m interested to here your opinions on this.

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]]> By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18983 ctownhood Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:46:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18983 Great..so now Fedor can sign with another org that has no one even in the same league as him, so he can run through them all uncontested, and we'll still never see the Couture - Fedor matchup everyone wants. Great..so now Fedor can sign with another org that has no one even in the same league as him, so he can run through them all uncontested, and we’ll still never see the Couture – Fedor matchup everyone wants.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18954 Sam Caplan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:24:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18954 Jeremy, I agree, I'd love to see Couture vs. Fedor happen, and I'd love to see it in the UFC because I don't think there's a company in the sport that could do a better job of promoting that fight. Jeremy, I agree, I’d love to see Couture vs. Fedor happen, and I’d love to see it in the UFC because I don’t think there’s a company in the sport that could do a better job of promoting that fight.

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]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18953 Jeremy Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:19:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18953 "Jeremy, theoretically, ANYTHING is possible. I just don’t see the UFC and Fedor’s team coming to an accord of any kind as a realistic possibility. In order for a deal between the UFC and Fedor’s management to happen, one side would have to cave in regards to their demands. I just don’t see how that will happen." Gotcha, obviously if relations are strained that much between the two then I guess it's a pipe dream. But for just one fight I would think the contract issues they had earlier would be irrelevant since Fedor would only be fighting once. That's what I was generally hoping for, just to get the Couture fight to happen. “Jeremy, theoretically, ANYTHING is possible. I just don’t see the UFC and Fedor’s team coming to an accord of any kind as a realistic possibility. In order for a deal between the UFC and Fedor’s management to happen, one side would have to cave in regards to their demands. I just don’t see how that will happen.”

Gotcha, obviously if relations are strained that much between the two then I guess it’s a pipe dream. But for just one fight I would think the contract issues they had earlier would be irrelevant since Fedor would only be fighting once. That’s what I was generally hoping for, just to get the Couture fight to happen.

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18919 Kelvin Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:03:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18919 "“If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward.” C’mon man, a coward? Fedor? That’s not right." IMHO..he would be. ““If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward.”

C’mon man, a coward? Fedor? That’s not right.”

IMHO..he would be.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18918 Sam Cupitt Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:46:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18918 Fedors management needs to take a video of Fedor in combat sambo to the negotiation table and show the UFC how little danger Fedor is in. I know that's probably only one of many sticking points but it would at least be a start. Seriously, if there was legitimate threat to Fedor in Sambo he'd already have been signed by a major organisation. Fedors management needs to take a video of Fedor in combat sambo to the negotiation table and show the UFC how little danger Fedor is in.

I know that’s probably only one of many sticking points but it would at least be a start. Seriously, if there was legitimate threat to Fedor in Sambo he’d already have been signed by a major organisation.

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]]> By: brutus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18914 brutus Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:43:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18914 Thanks for the answers and the update Sam. Great info if it turns out true. Thanks for the answers and the update Sam. Great info if it turns out true.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18909 Sam Caplan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:14:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18909 "If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward." C'mon man, a coward? Fedor? That's not right. “If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward.”

C’mon man, a coward? Fedor? That’s not right.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18908 Sam Caplan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:12:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18908 "Is there any chance Sam that the UFC perhaps does a one off fight between Couture and Fedor?" Jeremy, theoretically, ANYTHING is possible. I just don't see the UFC and Fedor's team coming to an accord of any kind as a realistic possibility. In order for a deal between the UFC and Fedor's management to happen, one side would have to cave in regards to their demands. I just don't see how that will happen. “Is there any chance Sam that the UFC perhaps does a one off fight between Couture and Fedor?”

Jeremy, theoretically, ANYTHING is possible. I just don’t see the UFC and Fedor’s team coming to an accord of any kind as a realistic possibility. In order for a deal between the UFC and Fedor’s management to happen, one side would have to cave in regards to their demands. I just don’t see how that will happen.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18907 Sam Caplan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:11:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18907 "So, is the Golden Boy Promotions, err… promotion a definite then?" Pretty much. And don't be surprised if HBO signs on to televise their cards. “So, is the Golden Boy Promotions, err… promotion a definite then?”

Pretty much. And don’t be surprised if HBO signs on to televise their cards.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18906 Sam Caplan Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:10:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18906 "Why not EXC?" The Coutures aren't happy with EliteXC. If Randy Couture isn't a possibility to fight for them, I doubt Fedor will. I'm also not sure EliteXC would be willing to meet Fedor's numerous requests. “Why not EXC?”

The Coutures aren’t happy with EliteXC. If Randy Couture isn’t a possibility to fight for them, I doubt Fedor will. I’m also not sure EliteXC would be willing to meet Fedor’s numerous requests.

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]]> By: brett http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18896 brett Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:59:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18896 if I remember correct, fedors mang. team wanted the ufc to sign some of the red devil members as well (which isn't a bad thing at all). but I don't think dana was having it. and it also had to do with the sambo thing as well. but my guess is he's going to sign with dream. I'd be willing to bet my life. if I remember correct, fedors mang. team wanted the ufc to sign some of the red devil members as well (which isn’t a bad thing at all). but I don’t think dana was having it. and it also had to do with the sambo thing as well. but my guess is he’s going to sign with dream. I’d be willing to bet my life.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18877 mike wolfe Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:36:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18877 The question isn't which org signs him. The question is which org. has the ability to sign him and then have him fight as required by his contract. He's already burned M-1, and that should give other orgs some hestitation despite the lure of signing him. The question isn’t which org signs him. The question is which org. has the ability to sign him and then have him fight as required by his contract. He’s already burned M-1, and that should give other orgs some hestitation despite the lure of signing him.

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]]> By: Handover Fist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18872 Handover Fist Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:07:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18872 It takes two to tango. Dana definitely has his flaws, but from the one interview Fedor's manager gave last year it sounded like he wanted to become a major player in the UFC in return for allowing them to sign Fedor. All these peeps that say "Dana just needs to get it done" no matter the price, I don't think are being very realistic. Like all MMA fans I want to see this fight but I don't expect Dana to give in to unreasonable demands just to make it happen. It takes two to tango. Dana definitely has his flaws, but from the one interview Fedor’s manager gave last year it sounded like he wanted to become a major player in the UFC in return for allowing them to sign Fedor.

All these peeps that say “Dana just needs to get it done” no matter the price, I don’t think are being very realistic. Like all MMA fans I want to see this fight but I don’t expect Dana to give in to unreasonable demands just to make it happen.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18868 Tanner Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:56:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18868 If you're the UFC that is. If you’re the UFC that is.

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]]> By: Tanner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18867 Tanner Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:55:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18867 Sambo's over, give him a 3 fight 1 year deal and if he's champ they have rights to first refusal, something like the clause tito has in contract. Sambo’s over, give him a 3 fight 1 year deal and if he’s champ they have rights to first refusal, something like the clause tito has in contract.

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]]> By: Leland Roling http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18851 Leland Roling Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:08:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18851 I definitely agree. DREAM, WVR, Mark Cuban, and Golden Boy are probably more likely to sign Fedor than the UFC specifically because of the UFC's stance on exclusivity. Fedor could sign on with DREAM on a per fight basis, same with WVR, and then fight for HDNet Fights as well non-exclusively. It works out great for him in the long run and gives him more freedom to do what he wants. As far as calling Fedor a free agent already, I think the fact that Monte Cox is basically in the dark in nearly every aspect that deals with Fedor is a sign that things are about to break down. Josh Gross is also using an unnamed source that has said the signing bonus is expected to be returned before Fedor lands back on the market. Whether or not that actually happens is a different story. My belief is that Fedor will sever ties with M-1 Global simply because of the poor communication between M-1 Global and Fedor's management. Constantly having one party say one thing while another party claims the opposite just isn't good for business. I definitely agree. DREAM, WVR, Mark Cuban, and Golden Boy are probably more likely to sign Fedor than the UFC specifically because of the UFC’s stance on exclusivity. Fedor could sign on with DREAM on a per fight basis, same with WVR, and then fight for HDNet Fights as well non-exclusively. It works out great for him in the long run and gives him more freedom to do what he wants.

As far as calling Fedor a free agent already, I think the fact that Monte Cox is basically in the dark in nearly every aspect that deals with Fedor is a sign that things are about to break down. Josh Gross is also using an unnamed source that has said the signing bonus is expected to be returned before Fedor lands back on the market. Whether or not that actually happens is a different story. My belief is that Fedor will sever ties with M-1 Global simply because of the poor communication between M-1 Global and Fedor’s management. Constantly having one party say one thing while another party claims the opposite just isn’t good for business.

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]]> By: Hard Ass http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18843 Hard Ass Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:56:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18843 Err....What competition is UFC offering for Fedor????? He just about committed murder when he fought their HW “Champ”. There is no organization out there that offers him any person that would get through a single round with him. That being said, he'll probablty go where he is not disrespected every other second ie.....Dana White and the UFC. I wish Dana would eat some crow and get this deal done!!!!! Err….What competition is UFC offering for Fedor????? He just about committed murder when he fought their HW “Champ”. There is no organization out there that offers him any person that would get through a single round with him. That being said, he’ll probablty go where he is not disrespected every other second ie…..Dana White and the UFC. I wish Dana would eat some crow and get this deal done!!!!!

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18840 Kelvin Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:16:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18840 If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward. With the amount of money they have and will offer...and the quality of competition they offer...surely, he is more mature than a 5 year old and can get past someone saying his management team are 'crazy russian's' and that they don't think he's top 5. If Fedor goes to any other promotion besides the UFC I would have to call him a coward. With the amount of money they have and will offer…and the quality of competition they offer…surely, he is more mature than a 5 year old and can get past someone saying his management team are ‘crazy russian’s’ and that they don’t think he’s top 5.

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]]> By: Ross http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-18835 Ross Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:50:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/09/fact-fiction-and-fedor/#comment-18835 I wonder if Fedor is getting tired of his management or if he is suffice to sit around? Its almost as if he is that 36 yr old football player trying to cash in one last time. He knows his staying power isnt forever and wants to be comfortable for the rest of his life.- I cant fault Fedor for that line of thinking as much as it ticks me off. I wonder if Fedor is getting tired of his management or if he is suffice to sit around? Its almost as if he is that 36 yr old football player trying to cash in one last time. He knows his staying power isnt forever and wants to be comfortable for the rest of his life.- I cant fault Fedor for that line of thinking as much as it ticks me off.

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