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	<title>Comments on: Frank Shamrock says brother Ken did steroids &#8220;his whole life&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: ked</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/20/frank-shamrock-says-brother-ken-did-steroids-his-whole-life/comment-page-1/#comment-21459</link>
		<dc:creator>ked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken has always looked like that even in his 20&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken has always looked like that even in his 20&#8217;s
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		<title>By: mike wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 26

One major difference is that Obama has a chance to win, and Frank doesn&#039;t.</description>
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<p>One major difference is that Obama has a chance to win, and Frank doesn&#8217;t.
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		<title>By: BigMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s got a future in politics.  Maybe he can be a VP candidate? Obama threw his grandmother under and now Frank throws Ken. Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s got a future in politics.  Maybe he can be a VP candidate? Obama threw his grandmother under and now Frank throws Ken. Brilliant!
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only guy I hate worse than Frank Shamrock is Ken Shamrock!.... hell they&#039;ve never like eachother anyways!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only guy I hate worse than Frank Shamrock is Ken Shamrock!&#8230;. hell they&#8217;ve never like eachother anyways!
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		<title>By: natureboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>natureboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank just made &quot;Blood Brothers&quot; interesting again and put a little more heat on a pretty bland fight build between him and Cung Le.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank just made &#8220;Blood Brothers&#8221; interesting again and put a little more heat on a pretty bland fight build between him and Cung Le.
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		<title>By: Jiu-Jitsu Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jiu-Jitsu Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ross, taking steroids without a legit prescription has always been illegal in the eyes of the law.

Nice counter Seth. Roid cheaters need to be exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ross, taking steroids without a legit prescription has always been illegal in the eyes of the law.</p>
<p>Nice counter Seth. Roid cheaters need to be exposed.
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fans think less of a fighter if they use roids...not sure he is trying to pump up a fight since this takes a lot of the shine off of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fans think less of a fighter if they use roids&#8230;not sure he is trying to pump up a fight since this takes a lot of the shine off of it.
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		<title>By: Ryder Die</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryder Die</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Frank - 

Who cares.  Nobody cares what you think.  It doesnt take a genius to recongnize that Ken might have taken steroids.  I still like Ken because he doesnt need to run his mouth and he is much more of a pioneer to the sport of MMA thank Frank will ever be. IDIOT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Frank &#8211; </p>
<p>Who cares.  Nobody cares what you think.  It doesnt take a genius to recongnize that Ken might have taken steroids.  I still like Ken because he doesnt need to run his mouth and he is much more of a pioneer to the sport of MMA thank Frank will ever be. IDIOT
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		<title>By: BJJDenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJJDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Shocking info from Glamrock. Who would have ever suspected, lol.

Somehow I look at Frank as more of a jerk for opening his big mouth about it, than I do for Ken IF he did do them.


And the deal is, not IF he did them, but if he is caught. I suspect a very high percentage of pro athletes have at one time or another, used PEDs, but these guys are well versed at beating tests, cycling, etc...

IMO, the only way to stop the abuse is stringent testing year round of ALL athletes in any given sport. Until the leagues are ready to adopt that stance, let them do whatever they want and the sport can suffer for it. What I mean by that, is random testing is pretty much worthless, when you don&#039;t need to be on the PED at the exact time of the event.

Unfortunately, the &quot;clean&quot; athletes feel more pressure to use the PEDs, to keep the field level, especially when the sport is their livelyhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Shocking info from Glamrock. Who would have ever suspected, lol.</p>
<p>Somehow I look at Frank as more of a jerk for opening his big mouth about it, than I do for Ken IF he did do them.</p>
<p>And the deal is, not IF he did them, but if he is caught. I suspect a very high percentage of pro athletes have at one time or another, used PEDs, but these guys are well versed at beating tests, cycling, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO, the only way to stop the abuse is stringent testing year round of ALL athletes in any given sport. Until the leagues are ready to adopt that stance, let them do whatever they want and the sport can suffer for it. What I mean by that, is random testing is pretty much worthless, when you don&#8217;t need to be on the PED at the exact time of the event.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the &#8220;clean&#8221; athletes feel more pressure to use the PEDs, to keep the field level, especially when the sport is their livelyhood.
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		<title>By: seth b</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,
Good point about Japan, he has fought for Pancrase and Pride as recently as 2005 and it would not be illegal there, but Steroids are a Schedule III drug according the United States DOJ and therefore illegal in all 50 states.  Whether it is a felony or a misdemeanor is irrelevant, the comment stated illegal.   

link http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs5/5448/5448p.pdf

Thanks for the correction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
Good point about Japan, he has fought for Pancrase and Pride as recently as 2005 and it would not be illegal there, but Steroids are a Schedule III drug according the United States DOJ and therefore illegal in all 50 states.  Whether it is a felony or a misdemeanor is irrelevant, the comment stated illegal.   </p>
<p>link <a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs5/5448/5448p.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs5/5448/5448p.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the correction.
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