“Preliminary” talks between Anderson Silva and Roy Jones, Jr. take place to discuss boxing match

Like I said before, this story seems to have some serious legs. Every time the hype about it dies down a little bit, a new nugget of information gets passed along, this time from NBC Sports:

Representatives of UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva and boxing great Roy Jones Jr. are actively engaging in talks that would pit the two in a boxing match, NBCSports.com has learned.

Alan Hopper, director of public relations for Don King Productions confirmed that talks are ongoing, and characterized them as “preliminary.”

“Roy likes the idea and is up for it,” Hopper said. “It’s being discussed. Roy will only agree if the match takes place under the rules of boxing, and UFC would have to clear Silva’s participation.”

The one sticking point in this whole deal is obviously going to be whether or not Dana White would clear Anderson Silva to do a one-off boxing match with Roy Jones, Jr. My gut feeling is that he would never allow Silva to do such a thing. We’re talking about a guy who has been approached about putting on the biggest fight in mixed martial arts history, Randy Couture vs. Fedor, and has turned it down.

If he’s so unwilling to help out his own sport because it may be beneficial to another promotion, what in the world makes anyone think that he will help out the sport of boxing by allowing his middleweight champion to step into a boxing ring with one of the all-time greats? It just doesn’t make sense. The fact that Dana has yet to say anything concrete regarding this matter is baffling to me. Is he seriously considering it? Maybe. But when he does say something, I’m putting my money on him squashing it once and for all.

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  • Huckaby says:

    Seriously, I have to put full faith and hope in Dana that this won’t happen. I don’t know one single mixed martial arts person that thinks Anderson Silva has any real chance here. If they made it pure kickboxing maybe we could talk but apparently Jones only wants traditional boxing.

    I just fear this leads to 3 years of ammunition from boxing fans that hate MMA to claim how superior it is and how they “told us so.”

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  • BMas says:

    Dana was on the UG a few days ago saying he would welcome a Roy Jones Jr. – Anderson Silva fight, but only if it happened in the Octagon. I don’t see this happening.

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  • Ian says:

    There is absolutely, unequivocally, 0 chance that Dana will sign off on this to happen under a boxing only rules set.

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  • Andy says:

    I agree with you Huckaby. If Dana allows this fight to happen, I would absolutely baffled and irritated. This fight could be potentially disasterous for MMA. Anderson Silva is regarded by most as the top p4p guy in MMA. If he were to lose to a past his prime RJ Jr. it would invalidate MMA in a lot of people’s eyes. It’s not worth the risk unless someone from MMA is fighting the best that boxing has to offer. Anyone outside of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. wouldn’t be beneficial to MMA.

    Squash this crazy talk Dana!!

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  • MJC_123 says:

    Dana will let this happen, because it promotes the UFC either way…Imagine the event has this as the main event with a boxing match and a solid UFC match as undercard…could draw a big crowd, maybe get Dana back through the door with HBO?

    Fedor v Randy was and still is far too complicated, this is win, win…If he beats Roy (which he wont OMG MMA is better than boxing moves to a new level), if Spider loses then everyone goes yeah I knew that would happen but what an interesting idea…Only Anderson Silva and the UFC is handled correctly can benefit from this not….Roy

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  • Jay says:

    Roy wants this fight so he can whoop Silva’s ass. Silva is not as quick with feet or hands even at Roy’s advanced age. The two sports are so different and I think the legendary pro boxer beats an excellent MMA fighter in a boxing match.

    now put Roy in the cage with MMA rules? you better call an ambulance and a hearse!!

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  • ufcfan says:

    the only way i could accept this fight is if it took place in the octagon
    and silva was able to use his full stand up arsenal (i.e. knees and kicks)

    it’d be a disaster for MMA, because even though i’m the biggest silva fan out there he’d be beaten bad by Jones.

    …the one negative, is if silva really wants this and ufc/dana say no they
    run the risk of upsetting one of their prized possessions and one of the top p4p fighters in the world.

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  • JohnnyRev says:

    I think this is great!!!…. I for one do not count out Anderson . I have seen enough of boxing to know what would happen . Why does everyone think Roy would walk through him ? Anderson is just as fast , probally stronger , and younger ! Im not a huge Silva fan but he has earned my respect none the less. I could see Anderson grabbing Jones and using his ring control to pop shot Jones from inside the “clinch”.

    For all the talk about boxers being better strikers, they dont stand a chance when it comes to the tie-ups. Anderson would dominate and proablly stop Jones by the 5-6 round. Also has anyone ever seen Silva tired ? I think the pace he would put up would drown Jones … as in most Silva fights there are a multiple way he could win but far less choices for his opponent .

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  • Evan says:

    I can’t see any commision approving Jones to fight under MMA rules and Silva doing boxing makes no sense.

    I don’t care about boxing anymore. As a previous fan I have been burned too many times waiting too long for the right fights to happen, if they ever ended up happening. MMA is it’s own beast.

    This will never happen anyway.

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  • Michaelthebox says:

    While I don’t think this fight will happen, this section:

    “If he’s so unwilling to help out his own sport because it may be beneficial to another promotion, what in the world makes anyone think that he will help out the sport of boxing by allowing his middleweight champion to step into a boxing ring with one of the all-time greats?”

    is a load of horse hockey. Dana has nothing to fear from boxing because they are two different sports and all the evidence is that boxing and MMA play to different markets. Anderson Silva could get absolutely fucked up by RJJ, and it would make little difference to the UFC or boxing’s fortunes.

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  • ufcfan says:

    its a good point about the commissions
    silva apparently has two pro boxing fights

    jones has over 40 (i thinK) not too mention they guy has been a champion

    i don’t see how it could be sanctioned

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  • Mike Wolfe says:

    A Silva/Jones fight makes as much sense as a Silva NASCAR race. They’re different sports.

    But why the negative tone towards White? To suggest that he won’t allow a fight between Fedor and Couture ignores a lot of history and is argumentative, to say the least. And why is it White’s job to work for the betterment of MMA? As an employee and, for all I know, shareholder of Zuffa, his job is to work for the best interests of Zuffa. Does the CEO of Coca Cola have an obligation to work for the best interests of the soft drink industry? Does the CEO of Microsoft have an obligation to work for the best interests of the software industry? I realize that’s not the gist of the piece, but enough already.

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    I would love to see the in-dash cam with Silva at the wheel of a NASCAR race car.

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  • Mike Wolfe says:

    My bet is that he’d look pretty calm, and probably find a way to win. Best p4p driver on the circuit, etc.

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  • Evan says:

    People seem to expect Dana to be an MMA charity at times. Or somehow confuse him as the MMA commissioner when he is simply the president of the UFC and his job is to look after the interests of the UFC.

    Why is this so hard for some to understand?

    If he does the right job for the UFC which is the case most of the time then everything else should generally fall in order which seems to be happening.

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  • Mike says:

    Umm Dana did not turn down an offer to put on Fedor vs Couture in the UFC. Dana White said he was willing to negotiate to make this happen even though he does not think much of Fedor anymore. It was Randy Couture that said he would not do this match under the UFC. Damn do some research first! lol

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  • Adam Morgan says:

    Mike,

    I did my research. Did you?

    http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/12/20/m-1-made-an-offer-to-ufc-for-couture-vs-fedor/

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  • Evan says:

    Mike Wolfe – Umm Dana did not turn down an offer to put on Fedor vs Couture in the UFC. Dana White said he was willing to negotiate to make this happen even though he does not think much of Fedor anymore. It was Randy Couture that said he would not do this match under the UFC. Damn do some research first! lol

    Adam Morgan – Mike,I did my research. Did you?

    “says he doesn’t care where the Fedor fight happens, as long as it’s not in the UFC”

    http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/17/couture-interview-talks-fedor-new-gym-openings-more-video/

    And Adam…who tried to make the fight happen first…the UFC or M-1?

    http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/07/03/fedor-and-shogun-could-be-in-the-ufc-title-picture-soon/

    And even you recently said they are still trying

    http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/06/fedor-vs-randy-still-possible-in-the-ufc/

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  • Marco says:

    Tony Stewart ain’t got shit on Anderson when it comes to fightin people in pit row.

    In all seriousness, where in the hell is Dana. I am a huge supporter of Anderson and RJJ, this would be great win or lose for Anderson.

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  • mike wolfe says:

    Evan and others

    For whateever it’s worth, Mike Wolfe (me) is not “Mike”, who authored no. 16. I’m the guy who posted 12 and 14.

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  • Evan says:

    Sorry MW…I am so used to seeing Mike Wolfe and no other mikes.

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  • ranger1071 says:

    bloodyelbow.com found a line for a potential Jones Jr/Silva fight on Bodog.

    Jones Jr. -2800
    Silva +1400

    The line states the fight has to happen by the end of 2008, under boxing rules, max bet $100.

    The line is huge because part of what you are betting on is if the fight happens at all, if you knock off a zero from both they aren’t as bad as what I thought they’d be, but that’s my .02.

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  • mike wolfe says:

    21–Evan

    No worries. I’d be the first to admit that I post a lot.

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  • Jay says:

    #8 JohnnyRev, what kind of “clinches” and “tie ups” would benefit Silva in a boxing match? are you talking about the John Ruiz method of “clinches”? He is the master of the clinch (he sucks) and I didn’t see him “clinching” Jones a whole hell of alot in that fight. And isn’t he bigger and stronger than Jones? Granted Ruiz is quite a bit dumber than Silva but c’mon! There is no Muay Thai clinch in boxing! no holding and hitting in boxing (I believe they call it “dirty boxing” in MMA). Let’s not forget Jones wears huge padded boxing gloves and Silva wears little 4oz. gloves (In MMA). Silva’s punch would be much different with boxing gloves on.

    In my opinion, and I respect yours, Jones would stop Silva inside of 7.

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  • Jay K. says:

    I’d just run like hell after the race if I t-boned Silva’s car during the classic 40 plus car pile ups! You know it’d be coming, the where and when to be determined by Anderson Silva’s twitchy round house kick.

    Jay K.

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  • Chuck says:

    YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND mjc … just like Ian #3 said

    Dana WON’T let this happen
    AND
    this is a lose / lose for Anderson/MMA … if he beats Roy at a staight-up boxing match(which he won’t) he only win’s a small amount (ie: Roy is past his prime)
    if Anderson Loses … OMG, mma will never hear the end of it from “boxing’ crowd

    IT WON’T HAPPEN

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  • Derek B. says:

    It’s all just hype. What a way to get Silva’s name out in the boxing and mma media?

    Sounds like marketing for Silva to be honest.

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  • red says:

    it all boils down that anderson is a professional. and he wants what everybody wants.money.its not bad.its reality.he has to think about the future for him and his family.and he’s the best pound for pound in mma already but he gets paid peanuts compared to boxers. 200 T plus bonuses? too low.and him and all mma fighters had faith that dana and the ufc.would be getting “dying”sport of boxings—money.but as a good car salesman dana fails to deliver.so i think it would be good to fight jones.. jones got paid minimum 2M plus ppv to fight trinidad. give silva the money he deserves.

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  • red says:

    its time for the ufc to pay its fighters the right way.other wise theyll just do boxing or transfer to other mma promotion.Dana is a damm good marketing man for ufc to reach this magnitude but he has to back it up already..,manny pacquiao is a 130lbs boxer from the philippines(not u.s) and he got paid 5million dollars for his bout against marquez plus addtional ppv(around3M).and Heavy weight randy coutoure got paid 250T plus bonuses in his last ufc bout comon Dana.we all know that tysons opponent peter mc neily got a million(back in 96) to get kod in one round.
    and all these fine mma athletes train more than boxers.they should be compensated more at the very least equal…its time to walk the walk. Dana.

    as a fan of both boxing and mma im sick and tired of hearing Dana talk that boxing is dead over and over again.and yet he has failed to deliver! stop paying new comers like brock lesner tons of cash and stop spending over the top for production. and spend more money for the fighters!!the most important expense.

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  • jason hughes says:

    anderson wants this, why would it be under mma rules. if silva wants to put the gloves on and fight under boxing rules then that would be more of a boxing commision decision. wouldnt they have the say over all the logistics and demands . dana would have no say and that will never happen.

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