Comments on: Pain Poll: The Staff Of 5 Oz. Breaks Down Shamrock vs. Cung Le http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Hooded G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21203 Hooded G Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:34:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21203 You guys forget that Cung Le was also an all american wrestling champ in his highschool and college days so his ground game must be superb, infact with all the problems that Shamrock has with his knee i dont give him much of a chance on his ground game. And with the range of attack Cung has i dont see frank getting in the inside without Cung Le using his Judo side sweeps and hip tosses plus Le is excellent on the outside with kicks... franks only chance is to use ju jitsu (if possible) or to run in and out with strikes to KO but i dont see that either without gettin a solid kick to the ribs... ***Cung Le by TKO in the 2nd***** You guys forget that Cung Le was also an all american wrestling champ in his highschool and college days so his ground game must be superb, infact with all the problems that Shamrock has with his knee i dont give him much of a chance on his ground game. And with the range of attack Cung has i dont see frank getting in the inside without Cung Le using his Judo side sweeps and hip tosses plus Le is excellent on the outside with kicks… franks only chance is to use ju jitsu (if possible) or to run in and out with strikes to KO but i dont see that either without gettin a solid kick to the ribs… ***Cung Le by TKO in the 2nd*****

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]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21133 Fight Fan Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:11:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21133 I like Le's style, in fact it's a breath of fresh air, but I think that this may show that there is a difference between flashy, unorthodox kicks and functional mma. I like Le’s style, in fact it’s a breath of fresh air, but I think that this may show that there is a difference between flashy, unorthodox kicks and functional mma.

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]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21130 Fight Fan Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:54:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21130 Maybe some early stand up then the ground game for rds 1,2 and 3. Expect Shamrock to surprise in the stand up and to completely dominate on the ground. Shamrock via decision. Maybe some early stand up then the ground game for rds 1,2 and 3.
Expect Shamrock to surprise in the stand up and to completely dominate on the ground.
Shamrock via decision.

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]]> By: platypus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21088 platypus Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:49:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21088 whenever i make picks i am wrong (hendo vs anderson, mir vs lesnar), so ill go with cung le via tko leg kicks b/c shamrock is one of my favourite fighters. i hope this fight will be exciting as his last few fights, id like to see another comeback like nogueira vs tim, comebacks make mma awesome. whenever i make picks i am wrong (hendo vs anderson, mir vs lesnar), so ill go with cung le via tko leg kicks b/c shamrock is one of my favourite fighters. i hope this fight will be exciting as his last few fights, id like to see another comeback like nogueira vs tim, comebacks make mma awesome.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21077 Rich S. Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:25:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21077 every time shammy steps into the cage... i think he's going to be too cocky, mess around too much, and ultimately get caught.. but he backs up what he says pretty well.. in the baroni fight.. i thought he was going to mess around and get too cocky in the stand-up.. but he came thiiiiiis close to knockin' Baroni's ass out.. he did the little "you're going to sleep" number with his hands.. and immediately sent him to the ground.. idk.. i think Shamrock will mess around and make funny faces at Le.. he'll take some shots and give some shots.. but eventually, Le's leg kicks [as Wolfe said] will get the better of Shammy and he'll have to take it to the ground.. and then.. we'll see Le's takedown defense.. and sub defense.. personally, i see Le being a trooper on the ground.. i think he'll be able to hold off chokes and armbars and such.. i think Shammy would have to sub Le with something wild.. i mean, for Le not to work on his ground game, knowing that he's going to be fighting one of the best ground guys in the world, would be complete idiocy.. Frank Shamrock via Unanimous Decision.. PS - i got my 5 oz. t-shirt in the mail yesteday! every time shammy steps into the cage… i think he’s going to be too cocky, mess around too much, and ultimately get caught.. but he backs up what he says pretty well..

in the baroni fight.. i thought he was going to mess around and get too cocky in the stand-up.. but he came thiiiiiis close to knockin’ Baroni’s ass out.. he did the little “you’re going to sleep” number with his hands.. and immediately sent him to the ground..

idk.. i think Shamrock will mess around and make funny faces at Le.. he’ll take some shots and give some shots.. but eventually, Le’s leg kicks [as Wolfe said] will get the better of Shammy and he’ll have to take it to the ground.. and then.. we’ll see Le’s takedown defense.. and sub defense.. personally, i see Le being a trooper on the ground.. i think he’ll be able to hold off chokes and armbars and such.. i think Shammy would have to sub Le with something wild.. i mean, for Le not to work on his ground game, knowing that he’s going to be fighting one of the best ground guys in the world, would be complete idiocy..

Frank Shamrock via Unanimous Decision..

PS – i got my 5 oz. t-shirt in the mail yesteday!

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]]> By: Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21076 Huckaby Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:18:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21076 Yes, it's the 1-0 guy. And Brent is a man of my heart. Yes, it’s the 1-0 guy. And Brent is a man of my heart.

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]]> By: keenan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21073 keenan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:51:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21073 i checked it out the other jessejones i see is 15 and 4 and hasnt fought since 2002 so im doubting it him very much. the other one fights for strikeforce and is 1 and o and the guy hes fighting is also 1and 0 so its definetly the lessere xperienced jones i checked it out the other jessejones i see is 15 and 4 and hasnt fought since 2002 so im doubting it him very much. the other one fights for strikeforce and is 1 and o and the guy hes fighting is also 1and 0 so its definetly the lessere xperienced jones

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]]> By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21072 JollyDV Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:42:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21072 Will you be hosting the chat during Saturdays fight? Will you be hosting the chat during Saturdays fight?

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]]> By: Brent http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21069 Brent Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:35:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21069 Frank will carry Cung for two rounds and make it look exciting, then sub him. Frank will carry Cung for two rounds and make it look exciting, then sub him.

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]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21067 Derek B. Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:24:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21067 frank wants to keep the fight standing up. His knees are in bad shape and a ground fight is what will kill him. Keep the fight standing up and swing for the ropes. THats the only hope for shamrock. frank wants to keep the fight standing up. His knees are in bad shape and a ground fight is what will kill him. Keep the fight standing up and swing for the ropes. THats the only hope for shamrock.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21062 Sergio Hernandez Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:48:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21062 I totally agree with you, Sam. Shamrock's only hope is to take this fight to the mat which I don't believe he'll be able to do so. I totally agree with you, Sam.

Shamrock’s only hope is to take this fight to the mat which I don’t believe he’ll be able to do so.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21059 Mike Wolfe Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:31:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21059 Le would be crazy to use kicks above the waist early in the fight. If Frank's knees are as bad as the piece suggests, Le should attack them relentlessly and stay out of Frank's range. Low leg kicks will help Le move and avoid. Once Frank has slowed down Le can change levels and look to finish. Le would be crazy to use kicks above the waist early in the fight. If Frank’s knees are as bad as the piece suggests, Le should attack them relentlessly and stay out of Frank’s range. Low leg kicks will help Le move and avoid. Once Frank has slowed down Le can change levels and look to finish.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21057 Sam Cupitt Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:26:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/03/28/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-shamrock-vs-cung-le/#comment-21057 When checking out Jesse Jones' record i saw that there was two. There was like 90-50 Jesse Jones who hadnt fought for Strikeforce and then there was 1-0 Jesse Jones who had fought for Strikeforce... so I assumed it was the latter. If I'm wrong... then the fight will show that I will be very wrong. When checking out Jesse Jones’ record i saw that there was two. There was like 90-50 Jesse Jones who hadnt fought for Strikeforce and then there was 1-0 Jesse Jones who had fought for Strikeforce… so I assumed it was the latter.

If I’m wrong… then the fight will show that I will be very wrong.

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