Comments on: Open Discussion: Should Vets Get More Respect from Referees? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:09 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22328 Fight Fan Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:57:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22328 Well Steve Mazzagatti is very naughty then. Well Steve Mazzagatti is very naughty then.

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]]> By: Ross http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22183 Ross Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:31:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22183 Steve Mazzagatti (sp) says that different level fighters get treated differently. Its easy to understand- an A level fighter can withstand more punishment ( or atleast is more used to the damage) where as a B level fighter may need more referee intervention. None the less, the Karo stoppage, imo was legit. Steve Mazzagatti (sp) says that different level fighters get treated differently. Its easy to understand- an A level fighter can withstand more punishment ( or atleast is more used to the damage) where as a B level fighter may need more referee intervention. None the less, the Karo stoppage, imo was legit.

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]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22071 Fight Fan Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:30:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22071 #48 I think what big John meant by that was that he wanted to give Chuck the benifit of the doubt but couldn't, not that he has an "understanding" with any one fighter. There is no "understanding". If refs are bias or have an "understanding" they could be changing the outcome of a fight in favour of one fighter. I think that should be left to the fighters as much as possible. People are talking about big Nog vs Heath. In that fight Nog was defending himself the whole time he was rocked and stunned not knocked out and limp like Karo. Maybe they should bring in 10 counts to keep people happy. But then people will say vets should get 20 counts. Just stupid. #48 I think what big John meant by that was that he wanted to give Chuck the benifit of the doubt but couldn’t, not that he has an “understanding” with any one fighter.
There is no “understanding”. If refs are bias or have an “understanding” they could be changing the outcome of a fight in favour of one fighter.
I think that should be left to the fighters as much as possible.
People are talking about big Nog vs Heath. In that fight Nog was defending himself the whole time he was rocked and stunned not knocked out and limp like Karo.
Maybe they should bring in 10 counts to keep people happy.
But then people will say vets should get 20 counts.
Just stupid.

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]]> By: Hogan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22061 Hogan Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:26:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22061 The stoppages were solid and I have no complaints. But please explain why when Lesnar struck Mir in the back of the head the fight was stopped, a point deducted and recovery time granted. In the JLo Ken Flo fight Florian was clearly striking in the back of the head opening a nasty cut. Florian was warned and the fight continued on the feet with no recovery time granted. J LO wasn’t the same and that incident could have changed the course of the fight. Why are these situations left to discretion and not governed by a set rule or protical? The stoppages were solid and I have no complaints. But please explain why when Lesnar struck Mir in the back of the head the fight was stopped, a point deducted and recovery time granted. In the JLo Ken Flo fight Florian was clearly striking in the back of the head opening a nasty cut. Florian was warned and the fight continued on the feet with no recovery time granted. J LO wasn’t the same and that incident could have changed the course of the fight. Why are these situations left to discretion and not governed by a set rule or protical?

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]]> By: Tim Crawford http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22035 Tim Crawford Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:26:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22035 And by the way, 'WHY HATE KARO'? Besides for having way to much chest hair? Anyone else wishing Nate Diaz goes up to 170 just to choke him out and then back to 155. Karo was an idiot on TUF and how bout manvel showing how classy the whole family tree is in his prelim fight. Treat em all the same. Let them live to fight and speak clearly another day. And by the way, ‘WHY HATE KARO’?
Besides for having way to much chest hair?
Anyone else wishing Nate Diaz goes up to 170 just to choke him out and then back to 155.
Karo was an idiot on TUF and how bout manvel showing how classy the whole family tree is in his prelim fight.

Treat em all the same.
Let them live to fight and speak clearly another day.

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]]> By: Tim Crawford http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22020 Tim Crawford Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:47:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22020 Treat even the same. Some vets are already punch drunk and should technically be stopped sooner then the new fishes. Karo got rocked, Alexander got rocked and if they fought better they would have won and I would have won my straight bets on those guys. Love the website guys. Treat even the same.
Some vets are already punch drunk and should technically be stopped sooner then the new fishes.
Karo got rocked, Alexander got rocked and if they fought better they would have won and I would have won my straight bets on those guys.

Love the website guys.

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]]> By: BJJDenver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22019 BJJDenver Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:42:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22019 Rather see Karo and Diego go again^^^^. Rather see Karo and Diego go again^^^^.

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]]> By: Atom http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22017 Atom Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:34:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22017 Everyone likes a rematch/revenge fight. (thers always that option people) SO... I say, gaurantee the fighters live to fight another day. Who wants to see Karo vs Alves 2???? Everyone likes a rematch/revenge fight. (thers always that option people)
SO…
I say, gaurantee the fighters live to fight another day.

Who wants to see Karo vs Alves 2????

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]]> By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-22003 ctownhood Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:30:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-22003 For the record....Karo was never offered a fight with Fitch. Both fighters have said so. Someone did ask Karo if he WANTED to fight Fitch, and he said he would prefer another fight...that's all. For the record….Karo was never offered a fight with Fitch. Both fighters have said so. Someone did ask Karo if he WANTED to fight Fitch, and he said he would prefer another fight…that’s all.

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]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/comment-page-1/#comment-21998 Derek B. Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:43:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/open-discussion-should-vets-get-more-respect-from-referees/#comment-21998 "So you didn’t see the .gif of him yelling “TAP” toward the referee from the other camera angle?" Huckaby you are wrong he didn't yell "Tap" he yelled "NO TAP!" Watch it closely. “So you didn’t see the .gif of him yelling “TAP” toward the referee from the other camera angle?”

Huckaby you are wrong he didn’t yell “Tap” he yelled “NO TAP!” Watch it closely.

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