Comments on: Random Rant: Time to cut the refs some slack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:42:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Shaun http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22975 Shaun Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:39:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22975 altogether and overall they were good calls. karo and houston got caught one way flattened out and the over hunched over. neither went to turtle or pulled guard. as a fan you want to see it go on five more second but as a ref you don't want a downed fighter taking a single punch after getting knocked out, crap like that can seriously damage you when your out. both got caught in upsets. both need to be man enough to admit it. hats off to thiago and james. altogether and overall they were good calls. karo and houston got caught one way flattened out and the over hunched over. neither went to turtle or pulled guard. as a fan you want to see it go on five more second but as a ref you don’t want a downed fighter taking a single punch after getting knocked out, crap like that can seriously damage you when your out.

both got caught in upsets. both need to be man enough to admit it. hats off to thiago and james.

]]> By: rusty http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22136 rusty Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:24:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22136 I think both were stopped a little too soon. Houston was dropped against Jardine like rob said above and came back and won. I would have liked to see Karo get knocked completely out and was on his way to sleepy time. Speaking of knockout how about the knock out of Tommy Speer by Anthony Johnson, that was just nasty. Speer thought he was 6 yrs old getting yelled at in the corner. I think both were stopped a little too soon. Houston was dropped against Jardine like rob said above and came back and won. I would have liked to see Karo get knocked completely out and was on his way to sleepy time. Speaking of knockout how about the knock out of Tommy Speer by Anthony Johnson, that was just nasty. Speer thought he was 6 yrs old getting yelled at in the corner.

]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22084 HexRei Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:57:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22084 <b># # 35 djbobo Says: April 5th, 2008 at 2:33 am karo sucks and is overated,he doesnt even deserve a title shot who has he beat that gives him a title shot,he was to pussy to fight fitch and has paid the price </b> Um, Ryo Chonan, Josh Burkman, Drew Fickett, Matt Serra, Chris Lytle, Nick Diaz, Shonie Carter, Dave Strasser, to name a few. His recent loss definitely counts him out for a title shot in the near future but before this loss he had a very nice run with only two losses in seven years and those to Diego and GSP two very tough guys. # # 35 djbobo Says:
April 5th, 2008 at 2:33 am

karo sucks and is overated,he doesnt even deserve a title shot who has he beat that gives him a title shot,he was to pussy to fight fitch and has paid the price

Um, Ryo Chonan, Josh Burkman, Drew Fickett, Matt Serra, Chris Lytle, Nick Diaz, Shonie Carter, Dave Strasser, to name a few. His recent loss definitely counts him out for a title shot in the near future but before this loss he had a very nice run with only two losses in seven years and those to Diego and GSP two very tough guys.

]]> By: jason hughes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22082 jason hughes Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:42:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22082 Do we really need a different ref for every fight, this isnt basketball, i mean there not exactly running up and down the court all night. there would be a lot more consistecy if one ref handled the first half of the card and another for the second half. mazzagati completly called that fight before it was over.i dont like stoppages on what the ref thinks is going to happen, let the action provide the finish, a knockout, afighter unconciuos, things like that. i dont wanto see a fighter not covering up take two shots and have mazagatti call the fight . seems when the title shots aka sylvia vs noguiera happen refs tend to let the action go. it dosent really show a fifghters best when he takes two on theground and and there stopping the fight. NO REASON FEDOR DOSENT WANT TO FIGHT RANDT IN THE CAGE. TREE ELBOWS DOWN IN THE CORNER AND AND THE UFC REFS ARE CALLING THE FIGHT. is there any body out there that agrees, or am i gonna get that safety comes first shit again. let them fight till they are unconcious. Do we really need a different ref for every fight, this isnt basketball, i mean there not exactly running up and down the court all night. there would be a lot more consistecy if one ref handled the first half of the card and another for the second half. mazzagati completly called that fight before it was over.i dont like stoppages on what the ref thinks is going to happen, let the action provide the finish, a knockout, afighter unconciuos, things like that. i dont wanto see a fighter not covering up take two shots and have mazagatti call the fight . seems when the title shots aka sylvia vs noguiera happen refs tend to let the action go. it dosent really show a fifghters best when he takes two on theground and and there stopping the fight. NO REASON FEDOR DOSENT WANT TO FIGHT RANDT IN THE CAGE. TREE ELBOWS DOWN IN THE CORNER AND AND THE UFC REFS ARE CALLING THE FIGHT. is there any body out there that agrees, or am i gonna get that safety comes first shit again. let them fight till they are unconcious.

]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22001 mu_shin Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:00:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-22001 Anybody who has ever been in the ring, or on the training floor, knows that a heavy shot to the head can turn the lights out instantly. They may come back on in a second or two, and the fighter might not even be aware of the time lapse, but they were out none the less. Watching the fights, I thought the Karo call might have been a second or two too early, but having been in the dream-land after getting punched in the head, I'll go with Mazagatti's call and watch for Karo to come back and fight another day, with all his faculties intact. Peace... Anybody who has ever been in the ring, or on the training floor, knows that a heavy shot to the head can turn the lights out instantly. They may come back on in a second or two, and the fighter might not even be aware of the time lapse, but they were out none the less.

Watching the fights, I thought the Karo call might have been a second or two too early, but having been in the dream-land after getting punched in the head, I’ll go with Mazagatti’s call and watch for Karo to come back and fight another day, with all his faculties intact. Peace…

]]> By: Hogan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21986 Hogan Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:26:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21986 The stoppages were solid and I have no complaints. But please explain why when Lesnar struck Mir in the back of the head the fight was stopped, a point deducted and recovery time granted. In the JLo Ken Flo fight Florian was clearly striking in the back of the head opening a nasty cut. Florian was warned and the fight continued on the feet with no recovery time granted. J LO wasn't the same and that incident could have changed the course of the fight. Why are these situations left to discretion and not governed by a set rule or protical? The stoppages were solid and I have no complaints. But please explain why when Lesnar struck Mir in the back of the head the fight was stopped, a point deducted and recovery time granted. In the JLo Ken Flo fight Florian was clearly striking in the back of the head opening a nasty cut. Florian was warned and the fight continued on the feet with no recovery time granted. J LO wasn’t the same and that incident could have changed the course of the fight. Why are these situations left to discretion and not governed by a set rule or protical?

]]> By: The House http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21913 The House Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:03:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21913 Derek, good point. Derek, good point.

]]> By: Echolocating http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21861 Echolocating Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:13:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21861 Mazzagatti called Houston’s fight right. Steve also called Karo’s fight right, but called it just a bit too early. Nothing would have changed if he gave Karo 3 or 4 more seconds, but fans want to see decisive victories. I completely respect Mazzagatti’s concern for the fighters’ health, but I like seeing fights finished… not stopped just before they are finished. Next time, Steve, let Karo get hit in the head just a few more times… you know, for the fans. ;-) Mazzagatti called Houston’s fight right.

Steve also called Karo’s fight right, but called it just a bit too early. Nothing would have changed if he gave Karo 3 or 4 more seconds, but fans want to see decisive victories. I completely respect Mazzagatti’s concern for the fighters’ health, but I like seeing fights finished… not stopped just before they are finished.

Next time, Steve, let Karo get hit in the head just a few more times… you know, for the fans. ;-)

]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21859 Derek B. Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:54:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21859 "Maybe I am looking into this too much but he looked out of shape especially when compared to Thiago." Looking out of shape and being out of shape are 2 different things. Example Fedor...He always looks out of shape but we all know he's in good shape before his fights. Looks can be deceiving my friend. He just got caught...that's all there is too it. “Maybe I am looking into this too much but he looked out of shape especially when compared to Thiago.”

Looking out of shape and being out of shape are 2 different things. Example Fedor…He always looks out of shape but we all know he’s in good shape before his fights. Looks can be deceiving my friend. He just got caught…that’s all there is too it.

]]> By: Jiu-Jitsu Guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21857 Jiu-Jitsu Guy Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:48:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/03/random-rant-time-to-cut-the-referees-some-slack/#comment-21857 Houston was owned. No other way to describe it. Houston was owned. No other way to describe it.

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