Comments on: 10 things learned from YAMMA Pit Fighting http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: MPA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-24011 MPA Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-24011 You guys are a bunch of whiners. Yamma looks no different than when the owner produced the first UFC shows. Since does any new Organization start off with great anything. You people are spoiled. Like I said the UFC was originally owned by this guy before the US tried to ban the UFC for its tournies. Now he is back to reclaim what is his. This is what happens when a bunch of yahoos jump on the MMA bandwagon, but don’t have a clear history of how the sport began. So Yamma’s first show s*cked. So did UFC’s first show. One only need look at the first UFC show when Bill “Superfoot” Wallace couldn’t pronounce names correctly and even call them by the wrong fighter’s name. None of the fighters at that time were well known, and many were older guys who were former martial movie stars or kickboxing or some other champion back in the 1980s. As for attendance, the UFC could hardly fill the seats back then also. Now look at the UFC. It went from crap, to what every organization wants to be. If it wasn’t for the current producer of Yamma, who owned the UFC at that time, there wouldn’t be a UFC, WEC, PRIDE, EliteXC etc. So stop hating and at least support the guy who made everything you are seeing, including this website and others like it possible. My god you people can be some of the most ungrateful f*cks I have ever seen. You guys are a bunch of whiners. Yamma looks no different than when the owner produced the first UFC shows. Since does any new Organization start off with great anything.

You people are spoiled. Like I said the UFC was originally owned by this guy before the US tried to ban the UFC for its tournies. Now he is back to reclaim what is his.

This is what happens when a bunch of yahoos jump on the MMA bandwagon, but don’t have a clear history of how the sport began. So Yamma’s first show s*cked. So did UFC’s first show.

One only need look at the first UFC show when Bill “Superfoot” Wallace couldn’t pronounce names correctly and even call them by the wrong fighter’s name.
None of the fighters at that time were well known, and many were older guys who were former martial movie stars or kickboxing or some other champion back in the 1980s.

As for attendance, the UFC could hardly fill the seats back then also.

Now look at the UFC. It went from crap, to what every organization wants to be. If it wasn’t for the current producer of Yamma, who owned the UFC at that time, there wouldn’t be a UFC, WEC, PRIDE, EliteXC etc.

So stop hating and at least support the guy who made everything you are seeing, including this website and others like it possible.

My god you people can be some of the most ungrateful f*cks I have ever seen.

]]> By: Adam Miller http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22984 Adam Miller Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:07:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22984 As a ringside spectator at YAMMA (yes, I got free tickets), I can tell you this...it was not one for the record books. It was a spectacle, nothing more. Any of the fighters there would've been owned in any other league, as they were giving thier backs numerous times and amazingly not choked out. Butterbean's hailed appearance was just that...an appearance. He thre some really sloppy haymakers, hoping to connect, fell to the ground and got wailed on by Pat Smith (which is shame b/c the big guy was pretty beloved by the crowd). In fact, my only real highlight was watching Oleg Taktarov, one of my favorites from the original UFC days, win with a knee bar. Other than that, one 5:00 minute round is hardly considered a fight, and I didn't see a single fighter gain an advantage by using the two foot "orange ramp" (I don't know what else to call it). In fact, you hardly saw anything at all...as soon as the fighters hit the mat, the whole crowd had to turn to the big screens to see what was happening. Overall, it was fun, but I wasn't impressed...thumbs down for YAMMA. As a ringside spectator at YAMMA (yes, I got free tickets), I can tell you this…it was not one for the record books. It was a spectacle, nothing more.

Any of the fighters there would’ve been owned in any other league, as they were giving thier backs numerous times and amazingly not choked out. Butterbean’s hailed appearance was just that…an appearance. He thre some really sloppy haymakers, hoping to connect, fell to the ground and got wailed on by Pat Smith (which is shame b/c the big guy was pretty beloved by the crowd). In fact, my only real highlight was watching Oleg Taktarov, one of my favorites from the original UFC days, win with a knee bar.

Other than that, one 5:00 minute round is hardly considered a fight, and I didn’t see a single fighter gain an advantage by using the two foot “orange ramp” (I don’t know what else to call it). In fact, you hardly saw anything at all…as soon as the fighters hit the mat, the whole crowd had to turn to the big screens to see what was happening. Overall, it was fun, but I wasn’t impressed…thumbs down for YAMMA.

]]> By: Ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22960 Ryan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:37:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22960 I want the 8 main tourney back. I want the 8 main tourney back.

]]> By: Frank http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22934 Frank Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:29:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22934 Not many people like the Yamma show i can see, I watched it enjoyed the show. I would like to defend it a little bit. The handful of top fighters is the main problem with this show, they banked on fast fights with only 5 min rounds.But the fighters seen a easy way to get into the 2nd round via 1 takedown. 10. John Peretti was talking about Alexys Oleinik not Sherman Pendergarst, with the sprinter comments.It wasnt relevant to anything really, but if i can sit thru Joe Rogan random comments about Eddie Bravo Nipple rings i can live with this.His negativity showed the level of fighters on this show and lack of shape they were in, was dead on.You may be a journalist , but he(Peretti) has been apart of this sport almost since the start.Ive listened almost all his fights he has called, he does show a little biases towards strikers, but he does know this sport. 9. Butterbean should stick to boxing or retire. 8. Scott Ferrall was funny for a few mins, but he wasnt a bright spot for me. 7-6 Both Kerr and Ricco, need to get in shape or let it go, and promoters need to stop hiring these guys to get a fast paycheck.I dont see anything wrong with fighters getting a payday , but you could tell they didnt train much going into the fights. 5. 100% agreed 4. 100% agreed 3. I do want the 8 man tournaments back all the time.I dont think its a good idea for the masters or vets to compete.But for the lesser known guys you could be known overnight in a tournament. 2. 100% agreed 1. YAMMA Pit is a good idea in my opinion.I noticed that the incline helps with action alot, the lack of in shape fighters made this hard to notice. In the Wuif/Tuscherer fight , i could see them holding each other on the fence for half the time.The incline helps you get the takedown(which adds action), you can go alot lower ad pull legs from underneath.And it helps you get up off your back after being taken down(more action), i think it will require more events to show more people this.The heavyweights was a bad choice to showcase this pit, i hope the middleweights can show what this PIT was meant to do to the fights,keep it on a equal playing field,and provide more action. I like all forms of MMA . I hope Yamma can stay alive for a few more shows.They need to improve alot of things . I dont think the production was looked at until the day of the event, it was 2nd rate at best. Not many people like the Yamma show i can see, I watched it enjoyed the show.
I would like to defend it a little bit.
The handful of top fighters is the main problem with this show, they banked on fast fights with only 5 min rounds.But the fighters seen a easy way to get into the 2nd round via 1 takedown.

10. John Peretti was talking about Alexys Oleinik not Sherman Pendergarst, with the sprinter comments.It wasnt relevant to anything really, but if i can sit thru Joe Rogan random comments about Eddie Bravo Nipple rings i can live with this.His negativity showed the level of fighters on this show and lack of shape they were in, was dead on.You may be a journalist , but he(Peretti) has been apart of this sport almost since the start.Ive listened almost all his fights he has called, he does show a little biases towards strikers, but he does know this sport.

9. Butterbean should stick to boxing or retire.

8. Scott Ferrall was funny for a few mins, but he wasnt a bright spot for me.

7-6 Both Kerr and Ricco, need to get in shape or let it go, and promoters need to stop hiring these guys to get a fast paycheck.I dont see anything wrong with fighters getting a payday , but you could tell they didnt train much going into the fights.

5. 100% agreed

4. 100% agreed

3. I do want the 8 man tournaments back all the time.I dont think its a good idea for the masters or vets to compete.But for the lesser known guys you could be known overnight in a tournament.

2. 100% agreed

1. YAMMA Pit is a good idea in my opinion.I noticed that the incline helps with action alot, the lack of in shape fighters made this hard to notice.
In the Wuif/Tuscherer fight , i could see them holding each other on the fence for half the time.The incline helps you get the takedown(which adds action), you can go alot lower ad pull legs from underneath.And it helps you get up off your back after being taken down(more action), i think it will require more events to show more people this.The heavyweights was a bad choice to showcase this pit, i hope the middleweights can show what this PIT was meant to do to the fights,keep it on a equal playing field,and provide more action.

I like all forms of MMA . I hope Yamma can stay alive for a few more shows.They need to improve alot of things .
I dont think the production was looked at until the day of the event, it was 2nd rate at best.

]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22932 Ronin Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:02:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22932 Agreed, I guess we will just leave the tourney thing to the Japanese.. Agreed, I guess we will just leave the tourney thing to the Japanese..

]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22900 Sam Cupitt Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:09:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22900 I love a tournament as much as the next human but a sanctioned tournament is just rather poo. I should have clarified it to 8 Man tournaments have no place in sanctioned MMA. There are too many restrictions put in place which stop the tournaments from being... good. I love a tournament as much as the next human but a sanctioned tournament is just rather poo. I should have clarified it to 8 Man tournaments have no place in sanctioned MMA.

There are too many restrictions put in place which stop the tournaments from being… good.

]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22889 Ronin Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:34:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22889 Have to disagree with you Sam on "There is no place for 8 man tournaments in the modern day of MMA" I always loved the tourney format. Pride did a good job and Dream is continuing this tradition which I believe worked well just not in one night, it should be over a couple of PPV's like Pride did. Agree on everything else. Have to disagree with you Sam on “There is no place for 8 man tournaments in the modern day of MMA”
I always loved the tourney format.
Pride did a good job and Dream is continuing this tradition which I believe worked well just not in one night, it should be over a couple of PPV’s like Pride did.

Agree on everything else.

]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22888 THORAZINE Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:17:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22888 Didn't see the fight, but thanks for all the commentarty guys, I might get the next one! I guess that means Kerr is off the heroin. Didn’t see the fight, but thanks for all the commentarty guys, I might get the next one! I guess that means Kerr is off the heroin.

]]> By: Ryan M http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22874 Ryan M Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:42:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22874 Ok, I'm w/ Sam and Sam. As Journalist, who "luckily" gets paid :) I knew this was a horrible idea and that's all I'm saying. And you don't have to fight in MMA to critique it or train in it. Although I personally have fought and trained. Only trained BJJ though--it's a sport. I don't play football so I can't say Mike Vick sucks, or Brett Favre is a douche? Come on meow. Bye, bye YAMMA. Too bad. Ok, I’m w/ Sam and Sam. As Journalist, who “luckily” gets paid :) I knew this was a horrible idea and that’s all I’m saying. And you don’t have to fight in MMA to critique it or train in it. Although I personally have fought and trained. Only trained BJJ though–it’s a sport. I don’t play football so I can’t say Mike Vick sucks, or Brett Favre is a douche? Come on meow. Bye, bye YAMMA. Too bad.

]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22871 Rich S. Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:52:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22871 i mentioned the cage because that's what they were talking about in the YAMMA video.. they talked about how fighters get pinned in the corner.. or held against the cage.. that's why i didn't mention rings.. "no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol" LOL.. i figured i'd get a comment like that.. i mentioned the cage because that’s what they were talking about in the YAMMA video.. they talked about how fighters get pinned in the corner.. or held against the cage.. that’s why i didn’t mention rings..

“no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol”

LOL.. i figured i’d get a comment like that..

]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22866 Fight Fan Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:59:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22866 #25 Rich S said "i STILL think it’s hilarious that they designed “THE PIT” to eliminate the ground game/clinch work against the fence/boringness >>>>[which i think is completely ridiculous, i mean, if you don’t like the fights that get up on the cage, don’t watch the damn sport" Its not all in a cage Rich! (Pride, Dream, Bodog, King of Rings, Pancrase, Shooto, IFL, all have used roped rings). Although since UFC killed Pride most of the good fighters are in the UFC or cage. Sports and rules have always changed to prevent spoiling or lop-sided tactics, and lets face it that is what cage tactics are most of the time, preventing an opponent, sprawling, reversing or attacking you. Besides look how much the rules have changed in the last 10 years. " Eliminating cage-work is like taking the jab out of boxing"?? WHAT!!! no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol I just think flowing fighting is better than pushing and holding against the cage. Just like in all other sports I like attacking positive play, not stalling, boring and lop-sided negative tactics. I'll always watch MMA but I will never like that sort of fighting or the fighters that do it constantly or rely on it for victory. All though YAMMA seems like it was a failure that dosn't mean it is not a step in the right direction. What would of happened if Chuck vs Wanderlei or Randy vs Josh Barnett or any other top fighter had trained to fight in the YAMMA?. Would it still suck?...no it wouldn't. #25 Rich S said “i STILL think it’s hilarious that they designed “THE PIT” to eliminate the ground game/clinch work against the fence/boringness >>>>[which i think is completely ridiculous, i mean, if you don’t like the fights that get up on the cage, don’t watch the damn sport”
Its not all in a cage Rich! (Pride, Dream, Bodog, King of Rings, Pancrase, Shooto, IFL, all have used roped rings). Although since UFC killed Pride most of the good fighters are in the UFC or cage.
Sports and rules have always changed to prevent spoiling or lop-sided tactics, and lets face it that is what cage tactics are most of the time, preventing an opponent, sprawling, reversing or attacking you. Besides look how much the rules have changed in the last 10 years.
” Eliminating cage-work is like taking the jab out of boxing”?? WHAT!!! no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol
I just think flowing fighting is better than pushing and holding against the cage. Just like in all other sports I like attacking positive play, not stalling, boring and lop-sided negative tactics.
I’ll always watch MMA but I will never like that sort of fighting or the fighters that do it constantly or rely on it for victory.
All though YAMMA seems like it was a failure that dosn’t mean it is not a step in the right direction. What would of happened if Chuck vs Wanderlei or Randy vs Josh Barnett or any other top fighter had trained to fight in the YAMMA?. Would it still suck?…no it wouldn’t.

]]> By: Ryder Die http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22860 Ryder Die Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:00:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22860 i guess i basically agree with the author of this article. basically the Yamma gets maybe one more show and then it fades away for good. if it wants to make an impact for the next show a great deal of work needs to be done. i agree with all the opinions he shared. i guess i basically agree with the author of this article. basically the Yamma gets maybe one more show and then it fades away for good. if it wants to make an impact for the next show a great deal of work needs to be done. i agree with all the opinions he shared.

]]> By: jason hughes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22850 jason hughes Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:10:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22850 i dont agree with #7 on hunt. mark hunt needs to fight mma right now . mark could easily beat some of top notch heavyweights in every org.mark was actually getting better progressivley with each match. i dont agree with #7 on hunt. mark hunt needs to fight mma right now . mark could easily beat some of top notch heavyweights in every org.mark was actually getting better progressivley with each match.

]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22849 Rich S. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:00:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22849 ok, i just saw the fights, and i have to say... DAMN! KERR WAS FAT! and so was BUTTERBEAN.. man, he's getting unhealthy fat now.. like.. as if he wasn't big enough... he's officially TOO BIG... and although that fight was borderline garbage.. i have to say Pat Smith looked nice.. good foot work and head movement.. i wouldn't mind seeing him mix up the HW division in a different organization... and the Taktarov fight.. was pretty lame as well.. he actually got knocked silly by Kerr at one point.. and.. there was a takedown around the beginning.. that a 150-year-old lady could've snuffed.. in conclusion, BUTTERBEAN leg kicks = the slowest/most hilarious thing i've ever seen! ok, i just saw the fights, and i have to say… DAMN! KERR WAS FAT! and so was BUTTERBEAN.. man, he’s getting unhealthy fat now.. like.. as if he wasn’t big enough… he’s officially TOO BIG… and although that fight was borderline garbage.. i have to say Pat Smith looked nice.. good foot work and head movement.. i wouldn’t mind seeing him mix up the HW division in a different organization… and the Taktarov fight.. was pretty lame as well.. he actually got knocked silly by Kerr at one point.. and.. there was a takedown around the beginning.. that a 150-year-old lady could’ve snuffed..

in conclusion, BUTTERBEAN leg kicks = the slowest/most hilarious thing i’ve ever seen!

]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22848 Rich S. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:18:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22848 i STILL think it's hilarious that they designed "THE PIT" to eliminate the ground game/clinch work against the fence/boringness >>>>[which i think is completely ridiculous, i mean, if you don't like the fights that get up on the cage, don't watch the damn sport, same for if you only want to see a KO. The sport is MMA and you can't just start taking certain aspects out of it. Eliminating cage-work is like taking the jab out of boxing.. it ruins different parts of a fighter's gameplan]>>>> and more than half of the fights ended up in decisions.. GREAT JOB YAMMA... not.. oh, and until i saw that "yamma pit video" the other day.. i didn't know that it [yamma] was actually a word.. i figured it stood for something.. like... Y(...) A(...) Mixed Martial Arts...YAMMA.. idk.. just a side note.. i STILL think it’s hilarious that they designed “THE PIT” to eliminate the ground game/clinch work against the fence/boringness >>>>[which i think is completely ridiculous, i mean, if you don't like the fights that get up on the cage, don't watch the damn sport, same for if you only want to see a KO. The sport is MMA and you can't just start taking certain aspects out of it. Eliminating cage-work is like taking the jab out of boxing.. it ruins different parts of a fighter's gameplan]>>>> and more than half of the fights ended up in decisions..

GREAT JOB YAMMA… not..
oh, and until i saw that “yamma pit video” the other day.. i didn’t know that it [yamma] was actually a word.. i figured it stood for something.. like… Y(…) A(…) Mixed Martial Arts…YAMMA..
idk.. just a side note..

]]> By: Rob http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22847 Rob Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:05:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22847 Hey Fightfan, I'm sick of people pining for the glory days of Pride. Move on babies. I miss the days of Bird v Magic but its not going to happen. You probably watched Pride on Foxsportsnet or the internet and only saw the great fights. There were some stinkers in Pride. The reality is between UFC, Strikeforce, Elite XC, WEC,HDNet etc., we have the best fighters in the world going at it. It might take a while to shake off the bad promotions (Yamma) but a great system will inevitably emerge. Hey Fightfan, I’m sick of people pining for the glory days of Pride. Move on babies. I miss the days of Bird v Magic but its not going to happen. You probably watched Pride on Foxsportsnet or the internet and only saw the great fights. There were some stinkers in Pride. The reality is between UFC, Strikeforce, Elite XC, WEC,HDNet etc., we have the best fighters in the world going at it. It might take a while to shake off the bad promotions (Yamma) but a great system will inevitably emerge.

]]> By: JEFF THE DRUNK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22846 JEFF THE DRUNK Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:03:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22846 Here's a quote from Jesse Holland's blog over at MMAMANIA : "It will be interesting to see what the pay-per-view numbers are, and how that will affect the future of the organization. For now, we got a chance to see the new fighting platform and some decent fights." I can't believe that YAMMA would hire Ferrall to be ring announcer if they want to be taken seriously, he was trashing the event on his show all week. i think he even said that the only people that would be in the arena would be the fighters friends & family. thankfully, i had yankees/sox & devils/rangers to watch so i didn't order this freak show. i am sorry i missed ferrall calling the HW belt "the big strap on", i almost spit my coffee out when i read that- shshshshake it up Here’s a quote from Jesse Holland’s blog over at MMAMANIA :
“It will be interesting to see what the pay-per-view numbers are, and how that will affect the future of the organization. For now, we got a chance to see the new fighting platform and some decent fights.”
I can’t believe that YAMMA would hire Ferrall to be ring announcer if they want to be taken seriously, he was trashing the event on his show all week. i think he even said that the only people that would be in the arena would be the fighters friends & family. thankfully, i had yankees/sox & devils/rangers to watch so i didn’t order this freak show.
i am sorry i missed ferrall calling the HW belt “the big strap on”, i almost spit my coffee out when i read that- shshshshake it up

]]> By: Matt D. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22844 Matt D. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:17:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22844 My $.02 10. By saying that Waterman showed up randomly you make it sound like he wasn't an alternate. 9. Butterbean weighed in at 40 pounds over his normal weight. I don't know how big a difference there is between 380 and 420 pounds, but that might have contributed to his turtling problem. 7. I am tempted to feel bad for Rodriguez, but every time those feelings begin to strike me I am reminded of his fight against Ben Rothwell where he spent half of the fight SPITTING on Rothwell! That kind of behavior is unforgivable. 5. I agree completely that heavyweights was a problem. A tournament of this nature filled with overweight fighters was not the way to go. 3. No place in MMA? That's a very ethnocentric way to look at it. Just because the majority of U.S. athletic commissions won't allow 1 day 3 round tournaments, doesn't mean they shouldn't exist. 1. I agree the pit was ridiculously stupid. If they ever have another event (YPF 2, time for the middleweights baby!) they are going to have to do some major tweaking of the ring. I don't think there is anyway they can go to the normal flat caged ring after hyping the YAMMA surface so much, but they are going to have to do something major. My $.02

10. By saying that Waterman showed up randomly you make it sound like he wasn’t an alternate.

9. Butterbean weighed in at 40 pounds over his normal weight. I don’t know how big a difference there is between 380 and 420 pounds, but that might have contributed to his turtling problem.

7. I am tempted to feel bad for Rodriguez, but every time those feelings begin to strike me I am reminded of his fight against Ben Rothwell where he spent half of the fight SPITTING on Rothwell! That kind of behavior is unforgivable.

5. I agree completely that heavyweights was a problem. A tournament of this nature filled with overweight fighters was not the way to go.

3. No place in MMA? That’s a very ethnocentric way to look at it. Just because the majority of U.S. athletic commissions won’t allow 1 day 3 round tournaments, doesn’t mean they shouldn’t exist.

1. I agree the pit was ridiculously stupid. If they ever have another event (YPF 2, time for the middleweights baby!) they are going to have to do some major tweaking of the ring. I don’t think there is anyway they can go to the normal flat caged ring after hyping the YAMMA surface so much, but they are going to have to do something major.

]]> By: Brandon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22843 Brandon Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:07:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22843 I would like to thank the author of this hilarious top ten list. I unfortunately watched this disaster but as like a few others it didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. I laughed probably ten times as much as I do when watching a Will Ferrell movie. Everything was a complete disaster and for the guy who said he would put down money for a Yamma 2 over GSP/Serra pay per view must be smoking rocks with the ring announcer. At least everyone scored a free t shirt regardless if they ordered the PPV or watched the Stream... I would like to thank the author of this hilarious top ten list.

I unfortunately watched this disaster but as like a few others it didn’t leave a bad taste in my mouth. I laughed probably ten times as much as I do when watching a Will Ferrell movie.

Everything was a complete disaster and for the guy who said he would put down money for a Yamma 2 over GSP/Serra pay per view must be smoking rocks with the ring announcer.

At least everyone scored a free t shirt regardless if they ordered the PPV or watched the Stream…

]]> By: TerribleT http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22842 TerribleT Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:58:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22842 This was a complete joke and a mockery of MMA in general. I didn't see one fighter that was in decent fighting shape. It looked like a battle of beer bellies throwing haymakers at one another after polishing off a couple of kegs! it was embarrassing for the sport of MMA and hopefully it will be the last YAMMA SHIT FIGHTING that we ever have to see again!!!!!!! This was a complete joke and a mockery of MMA in general. I didn’t see one
fighter that was in decent fighting shape. It looked like a battle of beer bellies throwing haymakers at one another after polishing off a couple of kegs! it was embarrassing for the sport of MMA and hopefully it will be the last YAMMA SHIT FIGHTING that we ever have to see again!!!!!!!

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