Comments on: 10 things learned from YAMMA Pit Fighting http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:47:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: MPA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-24011 MPA Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-24011 You guys are a bunch of whiners. Yamma looks no different than when the owner produced the first UFC shows. Since does any new Organization start off with great anything. You people are spoiled. Like I said the UFC was originally owned by this guy before the US tried to ban the UFC for its tournies. Now he is back to reclaim what is his. This is what happens when a bunch of yahoos jump on the MMA bandwagon, but don’t have a clear history of how the sport began. So Yamma’s first show s*cked. So did UFC’s first show. One only need look at the first UFC show when Bill “Superfoot” Wallace couldn’t pronounce names correctly and even call them by the wrong fighter’s name. None of the fighters at that time were well known, and many were older guys who were former martial movie stars or kickboxing or some other champion back in the 1980s. As for attendance, the UFC could hardly fill the seats back then also. Now look at the UFC. It went from crap, to what every organization wants to be. If it wasn’t for the current producer of Yamma, who owned the UFC at that time, there wouldn’t be a UFC, WEC, PRIDE, EliteXC etc. So stop hating and at least support the guy who made everything you are seeing, including this website and others like it possible. My god you people can be some of the most ungrateful f*cks I have ever seen. You guys are a bunch of whiners. Yamma looks no different than when the owner produced the first UFC shows. Since does any new Organization start off with great anything.

You people are spoiled. Like I said the UFC was originally owned by this guy before the US tried to ban the UFC for its tournies. Now he is back to reclaim what is his.

This is what happens when a bunch of yahoos jump on the MMA bandwagon, but don’t have a clear history of how the sport began. So Yamma’s first show s*cked. So did UFC’s first show.

One only need look at the first UFC show when Bill “Superfoot” Wallace couldn’t pronounce names correctly and even call them by the wrong fighter’s name.
None of the fighters at that time were well known, and many were older guys who were former martial movie stars or kickboxing or some other champion back in the 1980s.

As for attendance, the UFC could hardly fill the seats back then also.

Now look at the UFC. It went from crap, to what every organization wants to be. If it wasn’t for the current producer of Yamma, who owned the UFC at that time, there wouldn’t be a UFC, WEC, PRIDE, EliteXC etc.

So stop hating and at least support the guy who made everything you are seeing, including this website and others like it possible.

My god you people can be some of the most ungrateful f*cks I have ever seen.

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]]> By: Adam Miller http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22984 Adam Miller Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:07:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22984 As a ringside spectator at YAMMA (yes, I got free tickets), I can tell you this...it was not one for the record books. It was a spectacle, nothing more. Any of the fighters there would've been owned in any other league, as they were giving thier backs numerous times and amazingly not choked out. Butterbean's hailed appearance was just that...an appearance. He thre some really sloppy haymakers, hoping to connect, fell to the ground and got wailed on by Pat Smith (which is shame b/c the big guy was pretty beloved by the crowd). In fact, my only real highlight was watching Oleg Taktarov, one of my favorites from the original UFC days, win with a knee bar. Other than that, one 5:00 minute round is hardly considered a fight, and I didn't see a single fighter gain an advantage by using the two foot "orange ramp" (I don't know what else to call it). In fact, you hardly saw anything at all...as soon as the fighters hit the mat, the whole crowd had to turn to the big screens to see what was happening. Overall, it was fun, but I wasn't impressed...thumbs down for YAMMA. As a ringside spectator at YAMMA (yes, I got free tickets), I can tell you this…it was not one for the record books. It was a spectacle, nothing more.

Any of the fighters there would’ve been owned in any other league, as they were giving thier backs numerous times and amazingly not choked out. Butterbean’s hailed appearance was just that…an appearance. He thre some really sloppy haymakers, hoping to connect, fell to the ground and got wailed on by Pat Smith (which is shame b/c the big guy was pretty beloved by the crowd). In fact, my only real highlight was watching Oleg Taktarov, one of my favorites from the original UFC days, win with a knee bar.

Other than that, one 5:00 minute round is hardly considered a fight, and I didn’t see a single fighter gain an advantage by using the two foot “orange ramp” (I don’t know what else to call it). In fact, you hardly saw anything at all…as soon as the fighters hit the mat, the whole crowd had to turn to the big screens to see what was happening. Overall, it was fun, but I wasn’t impressed…thumbs down for YAMMA.

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]]> By: Ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22960 Ryan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:37:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22960 I want the 8 main tourney back. I want the 8 main tourney back.

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]]> By: Frank http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22934 Frank Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:29:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22934 Not many people like the Yamma show i can see, I watched it enjoyed the show. I would like to defend it a little bit. The handful of top fighters is the main problem with this show, they banked on fast fights with only 5 min rounds.But the fighters seen a easy way to get into the 2nd round via 1 takedown. 10. John Peretti was talking about Alexys Oleinik not Sherman Pendergarst, with the sprinter comments.It wasnt relevant to anything really, but if i can sit thru Joe Rogan random comments about Eddie Bravo Nipple rings i can live with this.His negativity showed the level of fighters on this show and lack of shape they were in, was dead on.You may be a journalist , but he(Peretti) has been apart of this sport almost since the start.Ive listened almost all his fights he has called, he does show a little biases towards strikers, but he does know this sport. 9. Butterbean should stick to boxing or retire. 8. Scott Ferrall was funny for a few mins, but he wasnt a bright spot for me. 7-6 Both Kerr and Ricco, need to get in shape or let it go, and promoters need to stop hiring these guys to get a fast paycheck.I dont see anything wrong with fighters getting a payday , but you could tell they didnt train much going into the fights. 5. 100% agreed 4. 100% agreed 3. I do want the 8 man tournaments back all the time.I dont think its a good idea for the masters or vets to compete.But for the lesser known guys you could be known overnight in a tournament. 2. 100% agreed 1. YAMMA Pit is a good idea in my opinion.I noticed that the incline helps with action alot, the lack of in shape fighters made this hard to notice. In the Wuif/Tuscherer fight , i could see them holding each other on the fence for half the time.The incline helps you get the takedown(which adds action), you can go alot lower ad pull legs from underneath.And it helps you get up off your back after being taken down(more action), i think it will require more events to show more people this.The heavyweights was a bad choice to showcase this pit, i hope the middleweights can show what this PIT was meant to do to the fights,keep it on a equal playing field,and provide more action. I like all forms of MMA . I hope Yamma can stay alive for a few more shows.They need to improve alot of things . I dont think the production was looked at until the day of the event, it was 2nd rate at best. Not many people like the Yamma show i can see, I watched it enjoyed the show.
I would like to defend it a little bit.
The handful of top fighters is the main problem with this show, they banked on fast fights with only 5 min rounds.But the fighters seen a easy way to get into the 2nd round via 1 takedown.

10. John Peretti was talking about Alexys Oleinik not Sherman Pendergarst, with the sprinter comments.It wasnt relevant to anything really, but if i can sit thru Joe Rogan random comments about Eddie Bravo Nipple rings i can live with this.His negativity showed the level of fighters on this show and lack of shape they were in, was dead on.You may be a journalist , but he(Peretti) has been apart of this sport almost since the start.Ive listened almost all his fights he has called, he does show a little biases towards strikers, but he does know this sport.

9. Butterbean should stick to boxing or retire.

8. Scott Ferrall was funny for a few mins, but he wasnt a bright spot for me.

7-6 Both Kerr and Ricco, need to get in shape or let it go, and promoters need to stop hiring these guys to get a fast paycheck.I dont see anything wrong with fighters getting a payday , but you could tell they didnt train much going into the fights.

5. 100% agreed

4. 100% agreed

3. I do want the 8 man tournaments back all the time.I dont think its a good idea for the masters or vets to compete.But for the lesser known guys you could be known overnight in a tournament.

2. 100% agreed

1. YAMMA Pit is a good idea in my opinion.I noticed that the incline helps with action alot, the lack of in shape fighters made this hard to notice.
In the Wuif/Tuscherer fight , i could see them holding each other on the fence for half the time.The incline helps you get the takedown(which adds action), you can go alot lower ad pull legs from underneath.And it helps you get up off your back after being taken down(more action), i think it will require more events to show more people this.The heavyweights was a bad choice to showcase this pit, i hope the middleweights can show what this PIT was meant to do to the fights,keep it on a equal playing field,and provide more action.

I like all forms of MMA . I hope Yamma can stay alive for a few more shows.They need to improve alot of things .
I dont think the production was looked at until the day of the event, it was 2nd rate at best.

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]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22932 Ronin Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:02:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22932 Agreed, I guess we will just leave the tourney thing to the Japanese.. Agreed, I guess we will just leave the tourney thing to the Japanese..

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22900 Sam Cupitt Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:09:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22900 I love a tournament as much as the next human but a sanctioned tournament is just rather poo. I should have clarified it to 8 Man tournaments have no place in sanctioned MMA. There are too many restrictions put in place which stop the tournaments from being... good. I love a tournament as much as the next human but a sanctioned tournament is just rather poo. I should have clarified it to 8 Man tournaments have no place in sanctioned MMA.

There are too many restrictions put in place which stop the tournaments from being… good.

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]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22889 Ronin Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:34:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22889 Have to disagree with you Sam on "There is no place for 8 man tournaments in the modern day of MMA" I always loved the tourney format. Pride did a good job and Dream is continuing this tradition which I believe worked well just not in one night, it should be over a couple of PPV's like Pride did. Agree on everything else. Have to disagree with you Sam on “There is no place for 8 man tournaments in the modern day of MMA”
I always loved the tourney format.
Pride did a good job and Dream is continuing this tradition which I believe worked well just not in one night, it should be over a couple of PPV’s like Pride did.

Agree on everything else.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22888 THORAZINE Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:17:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22888 Didn't see the fight, but thanks for all the commentarty guys, I might get the next one! I guess that means Kerr is off the heroin. Didn’t see the fight, but thanks for all the commentarty guys, I might get the next one! I guess that means Kerr is off the heroin.

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]]> By: Ryan M http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22874 Ryan M Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:42:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22874 Ok, I'm w/ Sam and Sam. As Journalist, who "luckily" gets paid :) I knew this was a horrible idea and that's all I'm saying. And you don't have to fight in MMA to critique it or train in it. Although I personally have fought and trained. Only trained BJJ though--it's a sport. I don't play football so I can't say Mike Vick sucks, or Brett Favre is a douche? Come on meow. Bye, bye YAMMA. Too bad. Ok, I’m w/ Sam and Sam. As Journalist, who “luckily” gets paid :) I knew this was a horrible idea and that’s all I’m saying. And you don’t have to fight in MMA to critique it or train in it. Although I personally have fought and trained. Only trained BJJ though–it’s a sport. I don’t play football so I can’t say Mike Vick sucks, or Brett Favre is a douche? Come on meow. Bye, bye YAMMA. Too bad.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-22871 Rich S. Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:52:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/12/10-things-learned-from-yamma-pit-fighting/#comment-22871 i mentioned the cage because that's what they were talking about in the YAMMA video.. they talked about how fighters get pinned in the corner.. or held against the cage.. that's why i didn't mention rings.. "no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol" LOL.. i figured i'd get a comment like that.. i mentioned the cage because that’s what they were talking about in the YAMMA video.. they talked about how fighters get pinned in the corner.. or held against the cage.. that’s why i didn’t mention rings..

“no taking the jab from MMA is like taking the jab from boxing. Lol”

LOL.. i figured i’d get a comment like that..

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