Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Exclusive Interview with Paul Bradley from “The Ultimate Fighter” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: High Roller http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23879 High Roller Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:35:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23879 My major beef is with the double standard. Almost four out of five people have herpes. I didn't mean to imply that they don't have a responsibility to inform others that they might be putting at risk. Of course, if you take that position to its extreme it means that every person that gets cold sores has a responsibility to inform anyone they kiss (even their grandmother), or anyone they share a drink with that they're at risk of contracting a communicable disease. What really chaps my ass is that nobody makes that big of deal about "cold sores". If the guy had oral HSV, he never would have been kicked off the show. And yet, there is probably a non-trivial likelihood that oral HSV could transfer into an abrasion or cut on someone's body. Why is that? It's like the disease itself doesn't matter, it's all about how you get it. And by the way, it wasn't an analogy. It was an example. And it wasn't asinine. It clearly demonstrated my point: you wouldn't call oral herpes a "sexually transmitted disease" or even a "communicable disease" even though it is both. I don't think we really disagree regarding an individual's responsibility. I think we disagree about terminology and social conventions. My major beef is with the double standard. Almost four out of five people have herpes. I didn’t mean to imply that they don’t have a responsibility to inform others that they might be putting at risk.

Of course, if you take that position to its extreme it means that every person that gets cold sores has a responsibility to inform anyone they kiss (even their grandmother), or anyone they share a drink with that they’re at risk of contracting a communicable disease.

What really chaps my ass is that nobody makes that big of deal about “cold sores”. If the guy had oral HSV, he never would have been kicked off the show. And yet, there is probably a non-trivial likelihood that oral HSV could transfer into an abrasion or cut on someone’s body. Why is that?

It’s like the disease itself doesn’t matter, it’s all about how you get it.

And by the way, it wasn’t an analogy. It was an example. And it wasn’t asinine. It clearly demonstrated my point: you wouldn’t call oral herpes a “sexually transmitted disease” or even a “communicable disease” even though it is both.

I don’t think we really disagree regarding an individual’s responsibility. I think we disagree about terminology and social conventions.

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]]> By: Rln http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23799 Rln Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:07:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23799 He clearly wasn't and that wasn't the point of my post. My point was that a person has an obligation to tell relevant people, be it a sexual partner or in this case a training partner, that you have a communicable disease so THEY can decide if they want to risk contracting the disease. Paul Bradley clearly didn't do this and it's a pathetic cop out to imply that a % of people already have it so it's not a big deal. He clearly wasn’t and that wasn’t the point of my post. My point was that a person has an obligation to tell relevant people, be it a sexual partner or in this case a training partner, that you have a communicable disease so THEY can decide if they want to risk contracting the disease. Paul Bradley clearly didn’t do this and it’s a pathetic cop out to imply that a % of people already have it so it’s not a big deal.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23796 HexRei Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:43:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23796 @ #21 No offense, but did you even read what he wrote? Seriously, re-read High Rollers' post and explain to me how you get the idea that he was advocating hiding herpes from your partners. @ #21 No offense, but did you even read what he wrote? Seriously, re-read High Rollers’ post and explain to me how you get the idea that he was advocating hiding herpes from your partners.

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]]> By: Rln http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23791 Rln Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:26:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23791 "Next time you go down on someone (assuming you do that), remember that you could contract oral HSV (either I or II). When you start showing symptoms, would you tell people “Yeah dude, I totally got this sexually transmitted disease from that person”? Enough with the bullshit. Let’s just call it what it is: Herpes." What a completely asinine analogy. If you know you have a sexually transmitted disease(herpes), it's your obligation to tell your sexual partners about it. If you know you have a communicable disease(herpes), it's your obligation to tell your training partners about it. There's no gray zone. Throwing out %'s about who or who not may have it is just a red herring. That's the bottom line but feel free to keep spewing your bullshit to try and muddy the subject. “Next time you go down on someone (assuming you do that), remember that you could contract oral HSV (either I or II). When you start showing symptoms, would you tell people “Yeah dude, I totally got this sexually transmitted disease from that person”? Enough with the bullshit. Let’s just call it what it is: Herpes.”

What a completely asinine analogy. If you know you have a sexually transmitted disease(herpes), it’s your obligation to tell your sexual partners about it. If you know you have a communicable disease(herpes), it’s your obligation to tell your training partners about it. There’s no gray zone. Throwing out %’s about who or who not may have it is just a red herring. That’s the bottom line but feel free to keep spewing your bullshit to try and muddy the subject.

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]]> By: Wnyguy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23771 Wnyguy Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:30:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23771 Great interview. War Paul Bradley!!! Great interview.

War Paul Bradley!!!

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]]> By: Five Ounces of Pain | Herman vs. Waterman being discussed for June EliteXC show in Hawaii http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23753 Five Ounces of Pain | Herman vs. Waterman being discussed for June EliteXC show in Hawaii Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:27:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23753 [...] at Indiana. The two also share the same manager, Mike Camp. Bradley made the revelation during a one-on-one interview with FiveOuncesOfPain.com (www.FiveOuncesOfPain.com) on [...] [...] at Indiana. The two also share the same manager, Mike Camp. Bradley made the revelation during a one-on-one interview with FiveOuncesOfPain.com (www.FiveOuncesOfPain.com) on [...]

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]]> By: Ben http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23736 Ben Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:51:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23736 Sam, I suppose we can agree to disagree, but I still think it's misleading at worst, watering down the language at best. Daniel Shore agrees, now that I think about it. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89418330 Sam, I suppose we can agree to disagree, but I still think it’s misleading at worst, watering down the language at best. Daniel Shore agrees, now that I think about it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89418330

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23723 Sam Caplan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:40:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23723 Ben, Paul Bradley conducted an interview in which 5 Oz. was the only one present and he made comments to us that are exclusive to this site. It's an interview with comments that are unique to 5 Oz. of Pain. Maybe it would be mis-leading if I labeled the interview exclusive if he was speaking on a conference call or during a press conference, but it was a one-on-one interview. End of story. Ben, Paul Bradley conducted an interview in which 5 Oz. was the only one present and he made comments to us that are exclusive to this site. It’s an interview with comments that are unique to 5 Oz. of Pain. Maybe it would be mis-leading if I labeled the interview exclusive if he was speaking on a conference call or during a press conference, but it was a one-on-one interview. End of story.

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]]> By: Ben http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23721 Ben Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:34:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23721 I have to take strong exception to the headline for this article. MMAJunkie has an interview with Bradley. That leads me to believe that this isn't even a little bit exclusive. Exclusive is a word with meaning. The headline indicates that you, exclusively, have interviewed Bradley, but you haven't. It's one of those annoying "ruining the English language" things. I have to take strong exception to the headline for this article. MMAJunkie has an interview with Bradley. That leads me to believe that this isn’t even a little bit exclusive. Exclusive is a word with meaning. The headline indicates that you, exclusively, have interviewed Bradley, but you haven’t. It’s one of those annoying “ruining the English language” things.

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]]> By: High Roller http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23694 High Roller Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:47:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23694 I already posted this at Cage Potato, but I'm re-posting here, just for Rln: This is just more Herpes bullshit. The level of ignorance and denial in our society surrounding Herpes Simplex Virus is simply astounding. People don’t give a shit about “cold sores” but get all freaked out about “sexually transmitted” herpes. What a fucking farce. Paul Bradley is wrong on two counts: First, Herpes Gladiatorum is usually caused by HSV-I. Second, to describe HSV-I as “sexually transmitted”, while describing what he has (probably incorrectly described as HSV-II) as “transferred from the skin” is a misrepresentation. Technically all HSV infections (including what he has) could be sexually transmitted and ultimately, all of it is “transferred from the skin”. Obviously he’s saying it this way to change people’s perception of what he carries, but it’s simply dishonest (or more likely, ignorant). HSV-I and HSV-II are basically the same thing. The principle difference is where they prefer to establish themselves in your body. HSV-I prefers the mouth while HSV-II tends to prefer the genitals. Note that I said “prefer” as there is no guarantee that genital herpes are type II nor that cold sores are type I. The dude has HSV. Guess what? You probably do too. One out of every five adults has HSV-II (genital, oral or elsewhere). Three out of every five adults has HSV-I (genital, oral or elsewhere). Two out of three of those people have symptoms too mild to notice. Guess we all better stop rolling. Next time you go down on someone (assuming you do that), remember that you could contract oral HSV (either I or II). When you start showing symptoms, would you tell people “Yeah dude, I totally got this sexually transmitted disease from that person”? Enough with the bullshit. Let’s just call it what it is: Herpes. Read this: http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html I already posted this at Cage Potato, but I’m re-posting here, just for Rln:

This is just more Herpes bullshit. The level of ignorance and denial in our society surrounding Herpes Simplex Virus is simply astounding. People don’t give a shit about “cold sores” but get all freaked out about “sexually transmitted” herpes. What a fucking farce.

Paul Bradley is wrong on two counts: First, Herpes Gladiatorum is usually caused by HSV-I. Second, to describe HSV-I as “sexually transmitted”, while describing what he has (probably incorrectly described as HSV-II) as “transferred from the skin” is a misrepresentation. Technically all HSV infections (including what he has) could be sexually transmitted and ultimately, all of it is “transferred from the skin”. Obviously he’s saying it this way to change people’s perception of what he carries, but it’s simply dishonest (or more likely, ignorant).

HSV-I and HSV-II are basically the same thing. The principle difference is where they prefer to establish themselves in your body. HSV-I prefers the mouth while HSV-II tends to prefer the genitals. Note that I said “prefer” as there is no guarantee that genital herpes are type II nor that cold sores are type I.

The dude has HSV. Guess what? You probably do too.

One out of every five adults has HSV-II (genital, oral or elsewhere).
Three out of every five adults has HSV-I (genital, oral or elsewhere).
Two out of three of those people have symptoms too mild to notice.

Guess we all better stop rolling.

Next time you go down on someone (assuming you do that), remember that you could contract oral HSV (either I or II). When you start showing symptoms, would you tell people “Yeah dude, I totally got this sexually transmitted disease from that person”? Enough with the bullshit. Let’s just call it what it is: Herpes.

Read this:
http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html

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]]> By: Brent http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23682 Brent Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:10:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23682 Sam, your tmail.com email account is full and rejecting new email. Sam, your tmail.com email account is full and rejecting new email.

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]]> By: Brent http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23665 Brent Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:02:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23665 "Paul Bradley: Yes, that’s right. There’s type I and type II. Type I is sexually transmitted and type II, which is what I had, is transferred from the skin. It’s basically a cold sore but I get it on my neck." Perhaps this is an editing mistake, but Type II is the once that is typically transmitted sexually, and Type I is the skin-to-skin one, including Gladiatorum. “Paul Bradley: Yes, that’s right. There’s type I and type II. Type I is sexually transmitted and type II, which is what I had, is transferred from the skin. It’s basically a cold sore but I get it on my neck.”

Perhaps this is an editing mistake, but Type II is the once that is typically transmitted sexually, and Type I is the skin-to-skin one, including Gladiatorum.

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]]> By: subwrestler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23660 subwrestler Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:04:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23660 "Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend?" He's lost his last two fights ... one a TKO loss to Josh Rhodes in a great fight , and yet another TKO loss to Bristol Marunde (in another war, no less). He has heart, but seems to gas out late in fights. “Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend?”

He’s lost his last two fights … one a TKO loss to Josh Rhodes in a great fight , and yet another TKO loss to Bristol Marunde (in another war, no less). He has heart, but seems to gas out late in fights.

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]]> By: subwrestler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23659 subwrestler Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:00:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23659 Paul seems like a very cool dude ... He took all of that adversity in stride, and is now back on track with a solid organization. After all he went through it's good to see him doing well, I wish him the best. Paul seems like a very cool dude … He took all of that adversity in stride, and is now back on track with a solid organization. After all he went through it’s good to see him doing well, I wish him the best.

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]]> By: clint notestine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23658 clint notestine Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:39:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23658 At least at EliteXC with the non-exclusive contract he will probably make more money, not sponsorship money though, and get more experience. At least at EliteXC with the non-exclusive contract he will probably make more money, not sponsorship money though, and get more experience.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23647 Mike Wolfe Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:03:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23647 I'm glad it seems to be working out alright for him, and I'll be watching for him in Elite XC. Someone once said that success is the best revenge, so hopefully he can make UFC sorry they cut him, especially if UFC has other fighters in the org. with the same condition, which seems likely. I’m glad it seems to be working out alright for him, and I’ll be watching for him in Elite XC. Someone once said that success is the best revenge, so hopefully he can make UFC sorry they cut him, especially if UFC has other fighters in the org. with the same condition, which seems likely.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23644 Evan Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:27:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23644 "Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend?" Real Fighter caught up with him, they are still together. “Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend?”

Real Fighter caught up with him, they are still together.

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]]> By: GoofyMonkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23641 GoofyMonkey Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:31:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23641 Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend? Speaking of guys who got kicked off the show.. What ever happened to that douce bag who left for his girlfriend?

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]]> By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23638 Guy Gaduois Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:13:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23638 He was great in Cobra. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0859921/ He was great in Cobra.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0859921/

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]]> By: Rln http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/comment-page-1/#comment-23635 Rln Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:07:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/17/5-oz-exclusive-interview-with-paul-bradley-from-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-23635 "6. Medical and Other Conditions: I certify that I am not aware of any physical condition that may interfere with my participation in any of the activities that you may arrange, except as disclosed during the application, interview and screening process for the Programs. If I later become aware of any such condition, I will notify your designated production personnel in writing of the condition’s existence prior to my participation in your activities. Without limiting the above, I will inform you during the application, interview and screening process or will notify you in writing if I have (or develop) serious back, neck or heart problems, epilepsy, fainting spells, or have (or develop) any other medical or other conditions that may expose me or any other participant or third party to risk, including, but not limited to HIV, Hepatitis B Surface Antigen, and Hepatitis C Antibody. I understand that I will be tested for drugs, including but not limited to steroids at your discretion. I will further be tested for HIV, Hepatitis B Surface Antigen, and Hepatitis C Antibody. I further will disclose if I have ever been charged with a felony or misdemeanor, and whether I have ever had a restraining order entered against myself. I agree that a background investigation will be conducted regarding me past activities, medical history and other aspects of my life. I agree that you reserve the right to disqualify me based on such disclosures, investigations, medical findings, and/or any positive drug related testing results." Pretty pathetic that he tried to hide the fact that he had this condition and didn't tell them. Selfish pricks like him are the reason that gyms suffer from outbreaks of staph and such. They only care about themselves and couldn't give 2 shits about who they spread their diseases too. “6. Medical and Other Conditions: I certify that I am not aware of any physical
condition that may interfere with my participation in any of the activities that you
may arrange, except as disclosed during the application, interview and screening
process for the Programs. If I later become aware of any such condition, I will
notify your designated production personnel in writing of the condition’s
existence prior to my participation in your activities. Without limiting the above,
I will inform you during the application, interview and screening process or will
notify you in writing if I have (or develop) serious back, neck or heart problems,
epilepsy, fainting spells, or have (or develop) any other medical or other
conditions that may expose me or any other participant or third party to risk,
including, but not limited to HIV, Hepatitis B Surface Antigen, and Hepatitis C
Antibody. I understand that I will be tested for drugs, including but not limited to
steroids at your discretion. I will further be tested for HIV, Hepatitis B Surface
Antigen, and Hepatitis C Antibody. I further will disclose if I have ever been
charged with a felony or misdemeanor, and whether I have ever had a restraining
order entered against myself. I agree that a background investigation will be
conducted regarding me past activities, medical history and other aspects of my
life. I agree that you reserve the right to disqualify me based on such disclosures,
investigations, medical findings, and/or any positive drug related testing results.”

Pretty pathetic that he tried to hide the fact that he had this condition and didn’t tell them. Selfish pricks like him are the reason that gyms suffer from outbreaks of staph and such. They only care about themselves and couldn’t give 2 shits about who they spread their diseases too.

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