Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The DUEL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24452 Fight Fan Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:57:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24452 1) I love MMA but I see enough to have given UFC 83 a miss on PPV (the first time in years). Besides the main event the only other fight I wanted to watch was ...(lol) Starnes vs Quarry, and we know what happened there. 2) Starnes is history, for what ever reason he didn't want to be there. 3) PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! let the Affliction card happen. I can't help but think that some of these fighters would just about fight for free just to spite Dana and the UFC. All of them mentioned have reason to be angry at Dana and Dana mad at them. Main event = UFC vs Affliction. I'm going for the underdog. 1) I love MMA but I see enough to have given UFC 83 a miss on PPV (the first time in years). Besides the main event the only other fight I wanted to watch was …(lol) Starnes vs Quarry, and we know what happened there.

2) Starnes is history, for what ever reason he didn’t want to be there.

3) PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! let the Affliction card happen. I can’t help but think that some of these fighters would just about fight for free just to spite Dana and the UFC. All of them mentioned have reason to be angry at Dana and Dana mad at them. Main event = UFC vs Affliction. I’m going for the underdog.

]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24447 Sam Cupitt Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:07:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24447 lol you did not just spell my name wrong in the poll. lol you did not just spell my name wrong in the poll.

]]> By: Reaser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24426 Reaser Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:26:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24426 Well I'm sure writing about MMA they took the FULL card into account??? I had watched every fight from UFC 83 twice by yesterday morning, so I'm gonna assume they were taking into account ALL the fights in judging it as the most entertaining card of the year... Well I’m sure writing about MMA they took the FULL card into account???

I had watched every fight from UFC 83 twice by yesterday morning, so I’m gonna assume they were taking into account ALL the fights in judging it as the most entertaining card of the year…

]]> By: Gavin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24418 Gavin Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:48:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24418 It's a shame that the undercard fights didn't make it to PPV. I was at the event, and the undercard fights were amazing. Only one went the distance, and it was an entertaining fight. If they had replaced Starnes/Quarry with either Belcher/Day or Macdonald/Doerkson this would have been the best card of the year. It’s a shame that the undercard fights didn’t make it to PPV. I was at the event, and the undercard fights were amazing. Only one went the distance, and it was an entertaining fight. If they had replaced Starnes/Quarry with either Belcher/Day or Macdonald/Doerkson this would have been the best card of the year.

]]> By: Kogepan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24417 Kogepan Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:40:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24417 Too bad GSP won't be fighting Fitch until they are coaches for TUF 9. Thats the REALLY bad thing about the UFC...the champions NEVEr fight more than 2 times year at most and probably average 1.5 times. Too bad GSP won’t be fighting Fitch until they are coaches for TUF 9.

Thats the REALLY bad thing about the UFC…the champions NEVEr fight more than 2 times year at most and probably average 1.5 times.

]]> By: Reaser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24405 Reaser Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:42:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24405 Hope your not talkin to me #10.... either way I'll answer the question, it's because the card is RUMORED, hell even though the Fedor fight is announced I won't believe it until the first round starts. As for the rest of the card, I'll believe it when I see it, like I said I would bet that only 50%, if that of the rumored card comes true... Personally I like UFC, WEC, SHOOTO, after one event a HUGE DREAM fan. I think EliteXC is a sleezy, herpes infested, fixing of fights joke of a promotion but I like some of the fighters and watch of course, its just dirty and its no wonder with Gary "I ruined boxing and I'm coming after MMA" Shaw...plus they wouldn't have had one good card yet if it wasn't for Strikeforce which I also enjoy. Some people want MMA to become the boxing model with 20 plus champions per weight class and a million commissions and promoters, etc. That's what you are asking for when you support cross-promotion or new MMA organizations that sign 1-5 fighters and call themself a promotion when really they just have a small stable of fighters and are trying to make a quick buck instead of growing the sport. Personally I want 1, at most 2 top organizations that every MMA fighter strives to be in. Always wanted that to be UFC and PRIDE and them just share fighters and have unification bouts, instead UFC bought PRIDE and f'd it all up. Hoping now UFC and DREAM becomes like that. To compare to other pro sports in the US....The NFL, would football be as popular if there was 5-10 leagues in the US??? No Super Bowl, 5 plus different champions per season?, just 5 different leagues, each having a couple star players with the rest semi-pro talent at best... If that's what you want, basically fighters to be fighting "for" nothing in terms of legacy or championships then yes, support every fly by night promotion that comes along, if you want MMA to have the problems boxing has then yes, support cross-promotion and hundreds of champions per weight class... Hope your not talkin to me #10….

either way I’ll answer the question, it’s because the card is RUMORED, hell even though the Fedor fight is announced I won’t believe it until the first round starts. As for the rest of the card, I’ll believe it when I see it, like I said I would bet that only 50%, if that of the rumored card comes true…

Personally I like UFC, WEC, SHOOTO, after one event a HUGE DREAM fan. I think EliteXC is a sleezy, herpes infested, fixing of fights joke of a promotion but I like some of the fighters and watch of course, its just dirty and its no wonder with Gary “I ruined boxing and I’m coming after MMA” Shaw…plus they wouldn’t have had one good card yet if it wasn’t for Strikeforce which I also enjoy.

Some people want MMA to become the boxing model with 20 plus champions per weight class and a million commissions and promoters, etc.

That’s what you are asking for when you support cross-promotion or new MMA organizations that sign 1-5 fighters and call themself a promotion when really they just have a small stable of fighters and are trying to make a quick buck instead of growing the sport.

Personally I want 1, at most 2 top organizations that every MMA fighter strives to be in. Always wanted that to be UFC and PRIDE and them just share fighters and have unification bouts, instead UFC bought PRIDE and f’d it all up. Hoping now UFC and DREAM becomes like that.

To compare to other pro sports in the US….The NFL, would football be as popular if there was 5-10 leagues in the US??? No Super Bowl, 5 plus different champions per season?, just 5 different leagues, each having a couple star players with the rest semi-pro talent at best…

If that’s what you want, basically fighters to be fighting “for” nothing in terms of legacy or championships then yes, support every fly by night promotion that comes along, if you want MMA to have the problems boxing has then yes, support cross-promotion and hundreds of champions per weight class…

]]> By: jason hughes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24400 jason hughes Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:53:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24400 how can you not foam at the mouth thinking about that affliction card. if it happens it would probably the most talented card i have ever heard of. Unless you only wacth the ufc then i feel sorry for you and your whole knoweledge of mma. how can you not foam at the mouth thinking about that affliction card. if it happens it would probably the most talented card i have ever heard of. Unless you only wacth the ufc then i feel sorry for you and your whole knoweledge of mma.

]]> By: Reaser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24387 Reaser Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:59:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24387 Had it a draw going into question 6 then Caplan comes out and blows it basically handing the Aussie the win. Affliction may very well put together a good card with a good main event, but they will be lucky to put half of the fights they are hyping together for their card. And it pisses me off Fedor-Sylvia isn't really "for" anything, its just a fight for money, no REAL title on the line, nothing, this fight is just another fight and that's a shame. If they go the PPV route the number's will be terrible... Either way, Sam #2 takes this week's title, a good start to his Duel career... Had it a draw going into question 6 then Caplan comes out and blows it basically handing the Aussie the win.

Affliction may very well put together a good card with a good main event, but they will be lucky to put half of the fights they are hyping together for their card.

And it pisses me off Fedor-Sylvia isn’t really “for” anything, its just a fight for money, no REAL title on the line, nothing, this fight is just another fight and that’s a shame.

If they go the PPV route the number’s will be terrible…

Either way, Sam #2 takes this week’s title, a good start to his Duel career…

]]> By: Cabelo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24367 Cabelo Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:41:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24367 "I keep hearing is they are okay with the idea of losing money because they want to promote their clothing brand. Well, wasn’t Bodog willing to lose money on MMA because it wasn't going to promote the “Bodog lifestyle?” " I'm sure you meant "was going to promote the “Bodog lifestyle?”", so i'm running with it. Yeah, we saw Bodog tank horribly on that line of thought, but I think Affliction will see more success, because apparently, lots of people want to wear their clothing. And can you honestly say you kow ANYONE who would want to get into the "Bodog lifestyle" as they promoted it? I took a look, and to me had nothing but a "give bodog your money" kinda flavour to it. I still wouldn't want to wear any affliction gear. Oh, I like some of the artwork, and I guess i could splurge and spend that much on one t-shirt, but then I'd look like all those "next big thing" nad wagoneer douchebags that get banned from clubs. Same reason I don't own any Tapout shirts. People might confuse me with one of those 'mma douchebags', when I'm really an opinionated mma addict. “I keep hearing is they are okay with the idea of losing money because they want to promote their clothing brand. Well, wasn’t Bodog willing to lose money on MMA because it wasn’t going to promote the “Bodog lifestyle?” ”

I’m sure you meant “was going to promote the “Bodog lifestyle?””, so i’m running with it.

Yeah, we saw Bodog tank horribly on that line of thought, but I think Affliction will see more success, because apparently, lots of people want to wear their clothing.

And can you honestly say you kow ANYONE who would want to get into the “Bodog lifestyle” as they promoted it? I took a look, and to me had nothing but a “give bodog your money” kinda flavour to it.

I still wouldn’t want to wear any affliction gear. Oh, I like some of the artwork, and I guess i could splurge and spend that much on one t-shirt, but then I’d look like all those “next big thing” nad wagoneer douchebags that get banned from clubs. Same reason I don’t own any Tapout shirts. People might confuse me with one of those ‘mma douchebags’, when I’m really an opinionated mma addict.

]]> By: Tattool http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24365 Tattool Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:33:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24365 I too was bummed that Velasquez didn't make it on the main card. Did we really need to see the pre-fight package, introductions AND post-fight interview from Goulet? I too was bummed that Velasquez didn’t make it on the main card. Did we really need to see the pre-fight package, introductions AND post-fight interview from Goulet?

]]> By: Popetastic http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24350 Popetastic Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:24:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24350 Normally I would agree with you guys about not showing prelims with extra time... But I don't know where you're getting this "70 minutes" figure. The PPV started at 10 p.m. and the Goulet fight ended just shy of 1 a.m. These are three-hour time slots. Not sure what I'm missing here. Normally I would agree with you guys about not showing prelims with extra time… But I don’t know where you’re getting this “70 minutes” figure. The PPV started at 10 p.m. and the Goulet fight ended just shy of 1 a.m. These are three-hour time slots.

Not sure what I’m missing here.

]]> By: revjames13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24345 revjames13 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:54:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24345 Nate Marquardt should be considered an A level fighter on the same plateau as Franklin and Henderson. I think he beats Franklin and Hendo would be a war. I believe Nate is the guy with the tools to give Silva his biggest test. Yes, I know he's lost to him already, but he's at the point in his career, like his training partner GSP, where he's still improving. Franklin and Hendo are in a holding pattern or perhaps even losing a half step at this stage of their careers. Nate Marquardt should be considered an A level fighter on the same plateau as Franklin and Henderson. I think he beats Franklin and Hendo would be a war. I believe Nate is the guy with the tools to give Silva his biggest test. Yes, I know he’s lost to him already, but he’s at the point in his career, like his training partner GSP, where he’s still improving. Franklin and Hendo are in a holding pattern or perhaps even losing a half step at this stage of their careers.

]]> By: clint notestine http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24326 clint notestine Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:58:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24326 "Starnes/Quarry could have ruined the card if it wasn’t for the previously undiscovered comic genius of Quarry." How did you not know Nate was funny? Have you not seen his last like 3 post fight interviews? Especially his post Pete Sell interview... it was classic. “Starnes/Quarry could have ruined the card if it wasn’t for the previously undiscovered comic genius of Quarry.”
How did you not know Nate was funny? Have you not seen his last like 3 post fight interviews? Especially his post Pete Sell interview… it was classic.

]]> By: RustyNailz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24324 RustyNailz Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:46:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24324 Kalib Starnes will be on Fight Network Radio this afternoon Kalib Starnes will be on Fight Network Radio this afternoon

]]> By: Shaun http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24321 Shaun Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:29:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24321 also 170 gsp vs fitch serra vs hughes is the way to go. also 170
gsp vs fitch
serra vs hughes
is the way to go.

]]> By: Shaun http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/comment-page-1/#comment-24320 Shaun Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:28:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/04/22/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-3/#comment-24320 Caplan's the man. Kalib's heart has been questioned. His only two wins are a close decision fight to leben and a not all that competitive tae kwon doe fighter from orlando that i've seen teach at victory martial arts. And a win over some boxer on Tuf 3. Kalib's loss to Kendall did seem like quitting although his ribs were injured bad he only had half a round to go. His cut was encouraged to stop against belcher and no one encourages a stop no matter the injury especially twice, Okami he was going the distance with but he did seem to give up and lose, and Starnes vs Quarry was only entertaining cause of Nate's humor and the absurdness of Kalib's game plane. Also it best to watch fights at a bar or on the internet or on ufc unleahed or wired. saves money, saves time, saves stress. screw ppv and tickets. AND ESPECIALLY a 185 card should look like this. henderson vs franklin (decides the second best 185 pounder) okami vs bisping (silva vs winner possibly) quarry vs marquardt (see who's the A & B level fighter) lutter vs horn (end contract of winner) starnes vs mcarthy (see who's truly got the worst gameplan) Caplan’s the man.

Kalib’s heart has been questioned. His only two wins are a close decision fight to leben and a not all that competitive tae kwon doe fighter from orlando that i’ve seen teach at victory martial arts. And a win over some boxer on Tuf 3.

Kalib’s loss to Kendall did seem like quitting although his ribs were injured bad he only had half a round to go. His cut was encouraged to stop against belcher and no one encourages a stop no matter the injury especially twice, Okami he was going the distance with but he did seem to give up and lose, and Starnes vs Quarry was only entertaining cause of Nate’s humor and the absurdness of Kalib’s game plane.

Also it best to watch fights at a bar or on the internet or on ufc unleahed or wired. saves money, saves time, saves stress. screw ppv and tickets.

AND ESPECIALLY a 185 card should look like this.
henderson vs franklin (decides the second best 185 pounder)
okami vs bisping (silva vs winner possibly)
quarry vs marquardt (see who’s the A & B level fighter)
lutter vs horn (end contract of winner)
starnes vs mcarthy (see who’s truly got the worst gameplan)

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