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	<title>Comments on: ROUND TWELVE of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-27831</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ram Maramba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram Maramba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GKH:

That's all it is, just good fun. No one's taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like.

The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who's fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that's where we are and my assumption is that's the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting.

Kimbo's without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he's also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value.

No foul, dude. I didn't mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GKH:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all it is, just good fun. No one&#8217;s taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like.</p>
<p>The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who&#8217;s fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that&#8217;s where we are and my assumption is that&#8217;s the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting.</p>
<p>Kimbo&#8217;s without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he&#8217;s also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value.</p>
<p>No foul, dude. I didn&#8217;t mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"US-based league"?

Never heard that mentioned before.

Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he's a "spectacle" fighter?  Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US.

But, whatever.  You boys have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;US-based league&#8221;?</p>
<p>Never heard that mentioned before.</p>
<p>Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he&#8217;s a &#8220;spectacle&#8221; fighter?  Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US.</p>
<p>But, whatever.  You boys have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Reaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ram had the best pick of the round...but if there was a championship JUST for this round I'de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic....

anyways...

Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ram had the best pick of the round&#8230;but if there was a championship JUST for this round I&#8217;de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic&#8230;.</p>
<p>anyways&#8230;</p>
<p>Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ram Maramba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram Maramba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn't be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he's huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He's a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn't think twice about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he&#8217;s huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He&#8217;s a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn&#8217;t think twice about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn't a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you're following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn't much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don't count me out yet -- my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn&#8217;t a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you&#8217;re following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn&#8217;t much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don&#8217;t count me out yet &#8212; my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams.</p>
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		<title>By: croyalporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>croyalporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still like Cava's the best.  I understand Caplan's strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic.  I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold.  I'm not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there.

Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby's roster of HW's and LHW's more than anybody else's lopsided roster, and Morgan's roster of WW's and LW's is better than Cupitt's collection of LW's.

Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby's pick of Brian Stann in the 11th -- he's all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still like Cava&#8217;s the best.  I understand Caplan&#8217;s strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic.  I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold.  I&#8217;m not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby&#8217;s roster of HW&#8217;s and LHW&#8217;s more than anybody else&#8217;s lopsided roster, and Morgan&#8217;s roster of WW&#8217;s and LW&#8217;s is better than Cupitt&#8217;s collection of LW&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby&#8217;s pick of Brian Stann in the 11th &#8212; he&#8217;s all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too.</p>
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