Comments on: ROUND TWELVE of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Five Ounces of Pain | FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-27831 Five Ounces of Pain | FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft Sun, 18 May 2008 11:01:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-27831 [...] click here for round 12 [...] [...] click here for round 12 [...]

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]]> By: Five Ounces of Pain | ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-27289 Five Ounces of Pain | ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft Wed, 14 May 2008 18:01:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-27289 [...] click here for round 12 [...] [...] click here for round 12 [...]

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]]> By: Five Ounces of Pain | ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-26300 Five Ounces of Pain | ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft Thu, 08 May 2008 12:17:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-26300 [...] click here for round 12 [...] [...] click here for round 12 [...]

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]]> By: Ram Maramba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25986 Ram Maramba Tue, 06 May 2008 01:05:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25986 GKH: That's all it is, just good fun. No one's taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like. The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who's fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that's where we are and my assumption is that's the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting. Kimbo's without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he's also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value. No foul, dude. I didn't mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle. GKH:

That’s all it is, just good fun. No one’s taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like.

The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who’s fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that’s where we are and my assumption is that’s the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting.

Kimbo’s without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he’s also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value.

No foul, dude. I didn’t mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle.

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]]> By: Five Ounces of Pain | 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25973 Five Ounces of Pain | 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain’s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25973 [...] click here for round 12 [...] [...] click here for round 12 [...]

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]]> By: Grape Knee High http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25938 Grape Knee High Mon, 05 May 2008 20:25:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25938 "US-based league"? Never heard that mentioned before. Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he's a "spectacle" fighter? Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US. But, whatever. You boys have fun. “US-based league”?

Never heard that mentioned before.

Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he’s a “spectacle” fighter? Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US.

But, whatever. You boys have fun.

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]]> By: Reaser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25929 Reaser Mon, 05 May 2008 19:39:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25929 Ram had the best pick of the round...but if there was a championship JUST for this round I'de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic.... anyways... Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him... Ram had the best pick of the round…but if there was a championship JUST for this round I’de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic….

anyways…

Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him…

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]]> By: Ram Maramba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25916 Ram Maramba Mon, 05 May 2008 18:28:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25916 Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn't be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he's huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He's a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn't think twice about it... Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn’t be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he’s huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He’s a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn’t think twice about it…

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25913 Sam Caplan Mon, 05 May 2008 17:38:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25913 My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn't a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you're following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn't much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don't count me out yet -- my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams. My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn’t a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you’re following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn’t much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don’t count me out yet — my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams.

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]]> By: croyalporter http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25912 croyalporter Mon, 05 May 2008 17:02:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25912 Still like Cava's the best. I understand Caplan's strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic. I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold. I'm not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there. Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby's roster of HW's and LHW's more than anybody else's lopsided roster, and Morgan's roster of WW's and LW's is better than Cupitt's collection of LW's. Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby's pick of Brian Stann in the 11th -- he's all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too. Still like Cava’s the best. I understand Caplan’s strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic. I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold. I’m not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there.

Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby’s roster of HW’s and LHW’s more than anybody else’s lopsided roster, and Morgan’s roster of WW’s and LW’s is better than Cupitt’s collection of LW’s.

Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby’s pick of Brian Stann in the 11th — he’s all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too.

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]]> By: Matt C. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25909 Matt C. Mon, 05 May 2008 16:09:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25909 #3 I disagree. THIS has to be the lamest creation in the history of mankind. http://www.harrietcarter.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/_/Hair-Cutting-Umbrella/productID/4E02DD96-04F7-4DEE-B2C8-D5624133E001/categoryID/436AD6FA-272B-4092-BF30-2B609940F88F/searchString/hair%20cut/ #3 I disagree. THIS has to be the lamest creation in the history of mankind.
http://www.harrietcarter.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/_/Hair-Cutting-Umbrella/productID/4E02DD96-04F7-4DEE-B2C8-D5624133E001/categoryID/436AD6FA-272B-4092-BF30-2B609940F88F/searchString/hair%20cut/

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]]> By: Bad Monkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25907 Bad Monkey Mon, 05 May 2008 15:26:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25907 Fantasy sports is undoubtedly the lamest creation in the history of mankind. Fantasy sports is undoubtedly the lamest creation in the history of mankind.

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]]> By: Grape Knee High http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25902 Grape Knee High Mon, 05 May 2008 15:11:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25902 I am amazed, let me repeat AMAZED, that Hidehiko Yoshida has not been taken yet. He is easily the most marketable MMA fighter in Japan, even if he is rather mediocre in terms of skill. How anyone can pick any of the unmarketable scrubs in the IFL over Yoshida is mind-boggling. I am amazed, let me repeat AMAZED, that Hidehiko Yoshida has not been taken yet. He is easily the most marketable MMA fighter in Japan, even if he is rather mediocre in terms of skill. How anyone can pick any of the unmarketable scrubs in the IFL over Yoshida is mind-boggling.

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]]> By: L Grant http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-25891 L Grant Mon, 05 May 2008 13:12:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/05/round-twelve-of-five-ounces-of-pains-mma-fantasy-mock-draft/#comment-25891 Finally someone nabbed Horodecki. It looks like Caplan has a good game plan after all. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more exciting fighter with more potential than Horodecki. Another bonus, is that he could probably make 145 if you have a FW division. Babalu is a great choice too. I know he got a lot of flack for holding that choke, but (and maybe I'm just a prick) that kind of stuff is what makes me a fan of his. I enjoy seeing people fight with emotion, especiallly when they don't lose their head. Rich Clementi beating Guillard, Nate Diaz over Pellegrino, and Quarry over Starnes were some of my favourite endings to fights. (Although the Diaz and Clementi fights were good for the duration, rather than just the end like Quarry). Finally someone nabbed Horodecki. It looks like Caplan has a good game plan after all. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a more exciting fighter with more potential than Horodecki. Another bonus, is that he could probably make 145 if you have a FW division.

Babalu is a great choice too. I know he got a lot of flack for holding that choke, but (and maybe I’m just a prick) that kind of stuff is what makes me a fan of his. I enjoy seeing people fight with emotion, especiallly when they don’t lose their head.

Rich Clementi beating Guillard, Nate Diaz over Pellegrino, and Quarry over Starnes were some of my favourite endings to fights. (Although the Diaz and Clementi fights were good for the duration, rather than just the end like Quarry).

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