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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; FINAL ROUND of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 19 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; ROUND 15 of Five Ounces of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ram Maramba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram Maramba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GKH:

That&#039;s all it is, just good fun. No one&#039;s taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like.

The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who&#039;s fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that&#039;s where we are and my assumption is that&#039;s the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting.

Kimbo&#039;s without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he&#039;s also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value.

No foul, dude. I didn&#039;t mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GKH:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all it is, just good fun. No one&#8217;s taking this too serious; about as serious as fantasy baseball and the like.</p>
<p>The IFL is a US-based league. Any IFL scrub who&#8217;s fought on TV is exponentially more identifiable than Yoshida in the US. I say the US because, other than Cupitt, that&#8217;s where we are and my assumption is that&#8217;s the primary market this fantasy stuff is supposed to be targeting.</p>
<p>Kimbo&#8217;s without a doubt a spectacle fighter, but as referenced above, he&#8217;s also American. In the assumed market, he has tons more value.</p>
<p>No foul, dude. I didn&#8217;t mean for you to take your ball and go home, I was just being argumentative for the sake of argument. Warriorbattle.
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		<title>By: Five Ounces of Pain &#124; 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Ounces of Pain &#124; 13TH ROUND of 5 Oz. of Pain&#8217;s MMA Fantasy Mock Draft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grape Knee High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grape Knee High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;US-based league&quot;?

Never heard that mentioned before.

Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he&#039;s a &quot;spectacle&quot; fighter?  Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US.

But, whatever.  You boys have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;US-based league&#8221;?</p>
<p>Never heard that mentioned before.</p>
<p>Besides, then does that mean that no one should have taken Kimbo either because he&#8217;s a &#8220;spectacle&#8221; fighter?  Yoshida is much more respected and popular in Japan than Kimbo could ever hope to be in the US.</p>
<p>But, whatever.  You boys have fun.
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		<title>By: Reaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ram had the best pick of the round...but if there was a championship JUST for this round I&#039;de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic....

anyways...

Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ram had the best pick of the round&#8230;but if there was a championship JUST for this round I&#8217;de have gave it to Cava for post #4, classic&#8230;.</p>
<p>anyways&#8230;</p>
<p>Cava still drafting the best with Huck and Cupitt still behind him&#8230;
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		<title>By: Ram Maramba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram Maramba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he&#039;s huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He&#039;s a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn&#039;t think twice about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoshida? Really? A guy with a mediocre record and no name recognition in the US is a better bet than a high-profile fighter in a US-based league with a TV deal? Huh. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised and almost expect the aging fighter to go undrafted. Sure he&#8217;s huge in Japan, but so are other guys with tons more skill than Yoshida. He&#8217;s a spectacle fighter, not much more. Put it this way: I just drafted a guy he BEAT and didn&#8217;t think twice about it&#8230;
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn&#039;t a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you&#039;re following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn&#039;t much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don&#039;t count me out yet -- my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My preference would be to have three strong, viable divisions as opposed to just six mediocre ones. To me, there isn&#8217;t a lot of depth at heavyweight and light heavyweight, so I wanted to create a niche and identity for my promotion. If you&#8217;re following things, there still are some good lightweight fighters out there but there isn&#8217;t much left at heavyweight and light heavyweight. Don&#8217;t count me out yet &#8212; my lighter weight divisions still have a good chance to be better than the heavier divisions of some of these teams.
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		<title>By: croyalporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>croyalporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still like Cava&#039;s the best.  I understand Caplan&#039;s strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic.  I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold.  I&#039;m not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there.

Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby&#039;s roster of HW&#039;s and LHW&#039;s more than anybody else&#039;s lopsided roster, and Morgan&#039;s roster of WW&#039;s and LW&#039;s is better than Cupitt&#039;s collection of LW&#039;s.

Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby&#039;s pick of Brian Stann in the 11th -- he&#039;s all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still like Cava&#8217;s the best.  I understand Caplan&#8217;s strategy, and similar strategies have been followed by Cupitt, Huckaby, and Morgan, but I find that they are relatively unrealistic.  I mean, yes, the WEC focuses on the lighter weightclasses, but they only did that when they were under the Zuffa fold.  I&#8217;m not sure a start-up organization could just ignore 3/5 of the fighters out there.</p>
<p>Having said all that, I do like Mike Huckaby&#8217;s roster of HW&#8217;s and LHW&#8217;s more than anybody else&#8217;s lopsided roster, and Morgan&#8217;s roster of WW&#8217;s and LW&#8217;s is better than Cupitt&#8217;s collection of LW&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Some intruiging picks still out there though; I really liked Huckaby&#8217;s pick of Brian Stann in the 11th &#8212; he&#8217;s all kinds of marketable, and seems like a solid fighter too.
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