Comments on: Bas Rutten tries to silence the Kimbo haters http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:43:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26712 Fight Fan Sun, 11 May 2008 09:14:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26712 You can't market Kimbo like they've done and have him lose to a can like Thomson can you? it's too much of a risk especially cuz he's a can. I may be wrong but I would say it's literally impossible for Thomson to win ( unless by accident). You can’t market Kimbo like they’ve done and have him lose to a can like Thomson can you? it’s too much of a risk especially cuz he’s a can. I may be wrong but I would say it’s literally impossible for Thomson to win ( unless by accident).

]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26711 Fight Fan Sun, 11 May 2008 09:07:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26711 Thats good joey but you are missing the point. "Elite XC is marketing Kimbo and handling him they way they should to make moeny" Yeah thats right but you could market Peewee Herman as a fighter if you do it the way EXC has done it with Kimbo. You earn the right to headline shows etc. He hasn't fought a true MMA fight yet. You may laugh but I really think Butterbean is the superior MMA fighter from what I've seen of Kimbo, I think thats someone Kimbo would have to try and take down. He hasn't fought a true MMA fight yet in my opinion. He hasn't really grappled or anything and I'll keep saying it, his first 2 fights were fixed ( This one will be to). They can't afford to have Kimbo lose and thats a bad thing for fair competition. Imagine if Thomson won...they CAN'T let that happen, so I think they would have made sure it doesn't. Thats good joey but you are missing the point.

“Elite XC is marketing Kimbo and handling him they way they should to make moeny”

Yeah thats right but you could market Peewee Herman as a fighter if you do it the way EXC has done it with Kimbo. You earn the right to headline shows etc. He hasn’t fought a true MMA fight yet. You may laugh but I really think Butterbean is the superior MMA fighter from what I’ve seen of Kimbo, I think thats someone Kimbo would have to try and take down. He hasn’t fought a true MMA fight yet in my opinion. He hasn’t really grappled or anything and I’ll keep saying it, his first 2 fights were fixed ( This one will be to). They can’t afford to have Kimbo lose and thats a bad thing for fair competition. Imagine if Thomson won…they CAN’T let that happen, so I think they would have made sure it doesn’t.

]]> By: Joey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26671 Joey Sat, 10 May 2008 22:03:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26671 You guys are insane. Elite XC is marketing Kimbo and handling him they way they should to make moeny. If he lost one of his first three fights they would be in trouble. hopefully by his fourth or fifth fight he'll start fighting better people. I want to see him against a guy with experience and talent too, then i want to see him against someone with a ground game. the yamma comment was a bit of a joke, but Im willing to guess that as far as mma history and theory im alot smarter than you think. You guys are insane. Elite XC is marketing Kimbo and handling him they way they should to make moeny. If he lost one of his first three fights they would be in trouble. hopefully by his fourth or fifth fight he’ll start fighting better people. I want to see him against a guy with experience and talent too, then i want to see him against someone with a ground game. the yamma comment was a bit of a joke, but Im willing to guess that as far as mma history and theory im alot smarter than you think.

]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26573 Fight Fan Sat, 10 May 2008 05:32:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26573 "Go practice your Tae Kwon Do and watch WWE" Joey WWE fighters have set up fights and so does Kimbo. Maybe you should give WWE a go. WHAT is wrong with Tae kwon do?. "Bo Cantrell for a first fight is pretty impressive if you ask me" You are a NOOB. We don't want Kimbo to fight Fedor you dick just real fights. Do we complain about other fighters like this?. The reason being that other fighters are not hyped up like Dimbo is, and other fighters have to fight real fighters at the same level. I mean Joey you just said that he doesn't fight legit fighters, he's hyped up and the reason he is headlinning shows is because noobs want to see him fight...duh, that's the problem. “Go practice your Tae Kwon Do and watch WWE”

Joey WWE fighters have set up fights and so does Kimbo. Maybe you should give WWE a go. WHAT is wrong with Tae kwon do?.

“Bo Cantrell for a first fight is pretty impressive if you ask me”

You are a NOOB.

We don’t want Kimbo to fight Fedor you dick just real fights. Do we complain about other fighters like this?. The reason being that other fighters are not hyped up like Dimbo is, and other fighters have to fight real fighters at the same level. I mean Joey you just said that he doesn’t fight legit fighters, he’s hyped up and the reason he is headlinning shows is because noobs want to see him fight…duh, that’s the problem.

]]> By: Fight Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26569 Fight Fan Sat, 10 May 2008 05:12:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26569 Joey you are blind to the fact of him headlinning a sport he has no cred in. Does that happen in any other sport?. If you can name one I'll lay off. As for the Cantrall fight, I have never seen a fighter look to tap so quickly, he either didn't want to fight or he was told or paid to take a dive (the later think). People want to see him because he's marketed so well, not because he's a good fighter and that to me is making a mockery of the sport of MMA. Chuck Lidell wasn't headlinning shows when he had his first fight and I'm sure his opponent wasn't fed to him like Kimbo's are. If Kimbo fights other up and comming fighters then that is fine but he doesn't. He fights shit fighters that at the very least under perform, gee what a monster. Just imagine if a new tennis player came into tennis and they wouldn't put him against talented opponents but he was still headlinning the US open. Do you think serious tennis fans would like that?. Joey you are blind to the fact of him headlinning a sport he has no cred in. Does that happen in any other sport?. If you can name one I’ll lay off. As for the Cantrall fight, I have never seen a fighter look to tap so quickly, he either didn’t want to fight or he was told or paid to take a dive (the later think).
People want to see him because he’s marketed so well, not because he’s a good fighter and that to me is making a mockery of the sport of MMA.
Chuck Lidell wasn’t headlinning shows when he had his first fight and I’m sure his opponent wasn’t fed to him like Kimbo’s are.
If Kimbo fights other up and comming fighters then that is fine but he doesn’t. He fights shit fighters that at the very least under perform, gee what a monster.
Just imagine if a new tennis player came into tennis and they wouldn’t put him against talented opponents but he was still headlinning the US open. Do you think serious tennis fans would like that?.

]]> By: DPK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26560 DPK Sat, 10 May 2008 03:13:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26560 Kimbo is fighting the level of fighter that he should be fighting right now. I think the argument that everyone has is that he is the main event, which is just stupid. It was similar with Lesnar, except that he was fighting someone with a resume that he had no business being in the ring with. Tank was washed up 10 years ago, so I didn't really expect him to do anything except collect his paycheck at the end of the night. Give Kimbo a few more fights, if his caliber of opponet doesn't start increasing then it becomes a free for all. Kimbo is fighting the level of fighter that he should be fighting right now. I think the argument that everyone has is that he is the main event, which is just stupid. It was similar with Lesnar, except that he was fighting someone with a resume that he had no business being in the ring with. Tank was washed up 10 years ago, so I didn’t really expect him to do anything except collect his paycheck at the end of the night. Give Kimbo a few more fights, if his caliber of opponet doesn’t start increasing then it becomes a free for all.

]]> By: Terry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26549 Terry Fri, 09 May 2008 23:31:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26549 Here's the way that i see it ... There are a lot of more experienced MMA fighters out there in the UFC primarily that resent the hell out of Kimbo for two reasons: 1) The guy is mad famous b/c of the entire internet/youtube phenomenon. Plain and simple. Kimbo is the most downloaded guy on you tube period. Well done. Leave it @ that. 2) He is flat out getting paid. He's out earning what a lot of much more experienced MMA fighters are earning on a per fight basis. So do the math. More popular (whether or not that is rightly justified or not on pure MMA fighting ablility/experience), + a lot more money per fight than 75% of the UFC (more "experienced/veteran") fighters, equals a lot of jealousy and hard feelings. Why not applaud the guy for getting into the sport a lot later than most other guys in the game, and making a run @ it?!?!? We shouldn't be happy for a guy supporting his family .... One thing is for certain though, sooner or later, Kimbo will be allowed to fight what others deem to be a "Real Opponent", and I have a funny feeling he's going to make a bery loud statement. Here’s the way that i see it … There are a lot of more experienced MMA fighters out there in the UFC primarily that resent the hell out of Kimbo for two reasons: 1) The guy is mad famous b/c of the entire internet/youtube phenomenon. Plain and simple. Kimbo is the most downloaded guy on you tube period. Well done. Leave it @ that. 2) He is flat out getting paid. He’s out earning what a lot of much more experienced MMA fighters are earning on a per fight basis. So do the math. More popular (whether or not that is rightly justified or not on pure MMA fighting ablility/experience), + a lot more money per fight than 75% of the UFC (more “experienced/veteran”) fighters, equals a lot of jealousy and hard feelings. Why not applaud the guy for getting into the sport a lot later than most other guys in the game, and making a run @ it?!?!? We shouldn’t be happy for a guy supporting his family …. One thing is for certain though, sooner or later, Kimbo will be allowed to fight what others deem to be a “Real Opponent”, and I have a funny feeling he’s going to make a bery loud statement.

]]> By: baker 34 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26548 baker 34 Fri, 09 May 2008 23:28:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26548 i gotta agree with #35 too i gotta agree with #35 too

]]> By: Reaser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26544 Reaser Fri, 09 May 2008 23:00:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26544 gotta agree with #35... gotta agree with #35…

]]> By: John http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26543 John Fri, 09 May 2008 22:58:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/08/bas-rutten-tries-to-silence-the-kimbo-haters/#comment-26543 Also Joey to think Tank or Cantrell could win in YAMMA proves you dont know anything, Tank hasn't won a fight in 3 YEARS and Cantrell hasn't won a fight in over 2 years, wow great competition. Also Joey to think Tank or Cantrell could win in YAMMA proves you dont know anything, Tank hasn’t won a fight in 3 YEARS and Cantrell hasn’t won a fight in over 2 years, wow great competition.

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