Comments on: Frank Mir and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira to appear on “The Ultimate Fighter 8″ as coaches http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:05:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: ekan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-35217 ekan Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:49:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-35217 aint nothing wrong with the leaders, antonio is a legend and frank mir is good too, think this can be good and that they train many good fighters aint nothing wrong with the leaders, antonio is a legend and frank mir is good too, think this can be good and that they train many good fighters

]]> By: jason hughes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27184 jason hughes Tue, 13 May 2008 20:14:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27184 michael the box, your a chicken shit who cant even answer one simple question if the card is this good someone will put the money up front ,.july is a while a way from now, so go back to your room wallpapered with ufc posters and ask yourself why you would not want to watch affliction banned, see answering a quetion is not as hard as dana tells you it is............pussy. michael the box, your a chicken shit who cant even answer one simple question if the card is this good someone will put the money up front ,.july is a while a way from now, so go back to your room wallpapered with ufc posters and ask yourself why you would not want to watch affliction banned, see answering a quetion is not as hard as dana tells you it is…………pussy.

]]> By: Marc S http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27175 Marc S Tue, 13 May 2008 19:15:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27175 Hold on,my twin 5 year old girls are whining about... Oh no, that's u pansies! Get over it! So the HW div is void of good talent right now, it's temporary, don't get your panties in an uproar! But for the time being, with who they do have, who deserves a shot more than Mir? And if you all wish for low ratings on TUF, stop talking- I'm sorry, Whining about it, stop watching it and you'll all be able to find something else to bitch about! For now, you could all bitch for the next day or e about this post! Sissy ass bitches! Hold on,my twin 5 year old girls are whining about… Oh no, that’s u pansies! Get over it! So the HW div is void of good talent right now, it’s temporary, don’t get your panties in an uproar! But for the time being, with who they do have, who deserves a shot more than Mir? And if you all wish for low ratings on TUF, stop talking- I’m sorry, Whining about it, stop watching it and you’ll all be able to find something else to bitch about! For now, you could all bitch for the next day or e about this post! Sissy ass bitches!

]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27163 Derek B. Tue, 13 May 2008 18:06:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27163 that and I just read that they are doing light heavyweights and lightweights. that and I just read that they are doing light heavyweights and lightweights.

]]> By: matt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27155 matt Tue, 13 May 2008 17:03:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27155 Derek B(#43) the problem is that people who fight at heavyweight aren't natural HWs, so they go on the show, and then drop down to LHW. Case in point, Keith Jardine is huge for LHW, but would be undersized at HW, so he dropped down. Rashad was way too small for HW so he too dropped down. What the UFC needs to do is start getting Carwin, Velasquez, and Lesnar in the mix. Each should be fighting 3 times a year until they are legit contenders. Kongo, Gonzaga, Werdum, Vera, Mir, and Herring are all vying for the top spot. If I was Joe Silva, I'd set it up like this. Mir/Nog for Title (happening) Werdum/Vera #1 contender Gonzaga/Kongo Herring/Sanchez (give herring a win or give Sanchez a legit win, he'd be riding a 3 fight win streak over 2 quality opponents and would have some steam, his only loss being to cro-cop) Coleman/Lesnar Velasquez/Hardonk Derek B(#43) the problem is that people who fight at heavyweight aren’t natural HWs, so they go on the show, and then drop down to LHW. Case in point, Keith Jardine is huge for LHW, but would be undersized at HW, so he dropped down. Rashad was way too small for HW so he too dropped down.

What the UFC needs to do is start getting Carwin, Velasquez, and Lesnar in the mix. Each should be fighting 3 times a year until they are legit contenders.

Kongo, Gonzaga, Werdum, Vera, Mir, and Herring are all vying for the top spot. If I was Joe Silva, I’d set it up like this.

Mir/Nog for Title (happening)
Werdum/Vera #1 contender
Gonzaga/Kongo
Herring/Sanchez (give herring a win or give Sanchez a legit win, he’d be riding a 3 fight win streak over 2 quality opponents and would have some steam, his only loss being to cro-cop)
Coleman/Lesnar
Velasquez/Hardonk

]]> By: Derek B. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27150 Derek B. Tue, 13 May 2008 16:38:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27150 UFC needs to build up their heavy weight division. What a better way then to do a TUF based on heavyweights. UFC needs to build up their heavy weight division. What a better way then to do a TUF based on heavyweights.

]]> By: will http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27143 will Tue, 13 May 2008 16:15:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27143 I personally tend to agree with Matt (#40) on this issue. Everyone is saying the Heavyweight Division is dying and needs a shot in the arm. It's true, it does. They've lost Randy and Sylvia and might be losing Arlovski. But the problem in my opinion isn't a lack of talent. There is a lack of depth, but I think the top tier of the heavyweight division is pretty stacked. Big Nog is one of the most underrated fighters in the world. Frank Mir is a world class submission specialist and has a pretty impressive past that everyone seems to have forgotten about. Vera, Werdum, Kongo, Herring, Gonzaga and Lesnar are all quality contenders. Having the title on hold sucks, but this might be the shot in the arm the heavyweight division needs. Make people give a damn about Nog/Mir because it could be an awesome fight and if people are actually watching these two heavyweight go at it, it could make people care about the title. I personally tend to agree with Matt (#40) on this issue. Everyone is saying the Heavyweight Division is dying and needs a shot in the arm. It’s true, it does. They’ve lost Randy and Sylvia and might be losing Arlovski. But the problem in my opinion isn’t a lack of talent. There is a lack of depth, but I think the top tier of the heavyweight division is pretty stacked. Big Nog is one of the most underrated fighters in the world. Frank Mir is a world class submission specialist and has a pretty impressive past that everyone seems to have forgotten about. Vera, Werdum, Kongo, Herring, Gonzaga and Lesnar are all quality contenders.

Having the title on hold sucks, but this might be the shot in the arm the heavyweight division needs. Make people give a damn about Nog/Mir because it could be an awesome fight and if people are actually watching these two heavyweight go at it, it could make people care about the title.

]]> By: Bofa Dees http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27139 Bofa Dees Tue, 13 May 2008 15:19:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27139 I just want to clarify my comment #13. I'm not saying that I am dissing the UFC, but having to wait a year in between title fights is a bit ridiculous. Plus the heavyweight division needs CPR, but I don't think that having another season of TUF heavyweights is the answer.... the winner of the last HW season is now a LHW and the runner up is a nomad! And for the record I never said I wasn't going to be a UFC fan anymore!!! I just want to clarify my comment #13. I’m not saying that I am dissing the UFC, but having to wait a year in between title fights is a bit ridiculous. Plus the heavyweight division needs CPR, but I don’t think that having another season of TUF heavyweights is the answer…. the winner of the last HW season is now a LHW and the runner up is a nomad! And for the record I never said I wasn’t going to be a UFC fan anymore!!!

]]> By: matt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27132 matt Tue, 13 May 2008 14:22:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27132 I think this is a great idea. The UFC heavyweight division is on life support. Werdum/Vera is for #1 contender. I think that Gonzaga/Herring is next for both of them. The winner of Herring/Gonzaga will face the loser of Werdum/Vera because if it'll be for the next in line. Kongo was on his way but dropped the fight with Herring. The young talent just don't have enough wins under their belt for a title fight. Mir has a backstory of former champ who didn't ever lose his title. It also introduces Nog to the UFC audience, which is something they really need. This is probably the best thing to happen to the UFC. I think this is a great idea. The UFC heavyweight division is on life support. Werdum/Vera is for #1 contender. I think that Gonzaga/Herring is next for both of them. The winner of Herring/Gonzaga will face the loser of Werdum/Vera because if it’ll be for the next in line. Kongo was on his way but dropped the fight with Herring. The young talent just don’t have enough wins under their belt for a title fight. Mir has a backstory of former champ who didn’t ever lose his title. It also introduces Nog to the UFC audience, which is something they really need. This is probably the best thing to happen to the UFC.

]]> By: Red http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27131 Red Tue, 13 May 2008 14:20:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/frank-mir-and-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-to-appear-on-the-ultimate-fighter-8-as-coaches/#comment-27131 How about the UFC using HW's in TUF since the division could use some new blood. How about the UFC using HW’s in TUF since the division could use some new blood.

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