Comments on: How soon is too soon? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:05:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: yenny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-27173 yenny Tue, 13 May 2008 19:10:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-27173 Sam, same thought came to my mind when I saw his fight with Hansen. Since rankings aren't really a science or often controversial... I'll say Alvarez could be thrown in any of the currently ranked top 10 fighters and be very competitive if not win Sam,
same thought came to my mind when I saw his fight with Hansen. Since rankings aren’t really a science or often controversial… I’ll say Alvarez could be thrown in any of the currently ranked top 10 fighters and be very competitive if not win

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]]> By: Drew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-27172 Drew Tue, 13 May 2008 18:50:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-27172 1. BJ 2. Gomi 3. Melendez 4. Aoki 5. JZ 6. Sherk 7. Alvarez 8. Hansen 9. (t) Huerta and Florian 1. BJ
2. Gomi
3. Melendez
4. Aoki
5. JZ
6. Sherk
7. Alvarez
8. Hansen
9. (t) Huerta and Florian

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]]> By: Kogepan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-27121 Kogepan Tue, 13 May 2008 10:19:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-27121 Yeh, Alvarez top 5. He just BEAT a top five guy in Hansen. The TUF guys get too much credit for fighting amongst themselves. I can't see how guys like steveson gets credit for beating punks like guillard, pellegrino. And Florian is way overrated for beating Lauzon (untested beginner), an injured Din Thomas (out of ufc), alvin robertson (can), washed up mishima. I'd leave Ishida at the bottom end of the top 10, probably 9 or 10. I mean the guy has fought 3 times since News Years Eve, and he had a big victory over Melendez. I doubt there will be ANY UFC fighters who will fight 3 times all of 2008. Yeh, Alvarez top 5. He just BEAT a top five guy in Hansen.

The TUF guys get too much credit for fighting amongst themselves. I can’t see how guys like steveson gets credit for beating punks like guillard, pellegrino. And Florian is way overrated for beating Lauzon (untested beginner), an injured Din Thomas (out of ufc), alvin robertson (can), washed up mishima.

I’d leave Ishida at the bottom end of the top 10, probably 9 or 10. I mean the guy has fought 3 times since News Years Eve, and he had a big victory over Melendez. I doubt there will be ANY UFC fighters who will fight 3 times all of 2008.

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]]> By: TFK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-27035 TFK Tue, 13 May 2008 00:02:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-27035 Right now Eddie should be Top 5, and when he wins the whole thing, he should be number 1. TFK Right now Eddie should be Top 5, and when he wins the whole thing, he should be number 1.

TFK

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]]> By: Pontus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26985 Pontus Mon, 12 May 2008 21:03:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26985 He shouldn't be top ten just yet.. beating Dida and then beating Hansen shouldn't make him top ten. Hansen is getting alot of hype but if you look at his record he hasn't performed that well in his last fights. He's 4-5 in his last 9 fights with his wins being over worldbeaters like Boku, Miyata, Ireland and Azerado. In a deep division like the lightweights there ought to be better candidates for the top ten other than Alvarez if he really is top ten we will soon find out instead of rushing him there based on hype. He shouldn’t be top ten just yet.. beating Dida and then beating Hansen shouldn’t make him top ten.

Hansen is getting alot of hype but if you look at his record he hasn’t performed that
well in his last fights. He’s 4-5 in his last 9 fights with his wins being over worldbeaters like Boku, Miyata, Ireland and Azerado.

In a deep division like the lightweights there ought to be better candidates for the top ten other than Alvarez if he really is top ten we will soon find out instead of rushing him there based on hype.

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]]> By: john w http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26984 john w Mon, 12 May 2008 21:02:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26984 eddie is a force at 155 he beat a guy that has a wins over jz and gomi and is still only 24 see you in delaware at combat in the cage ps bring me a free tshirt for my expert opinion lol! eddie is a force at 155 he beat a guy that has a wins over jz and gomi and is still only 24 see you in delaware at combat in the cage ps bring me a free tshirt for my expert opinion lol!

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]]> By: Zack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26960 Zack Mon, 12 May 2008 19:40:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26960 Eddie's got to be top 10. For an MMA fighter he has great boxing - especially his footwork and head movement - and his wrestling looks almost as good as someone like Tyson Griffin. He's very active on the ground, always looking to pass guard or get the dominant position and shows great submission defense/escape. He's seriously game, has great cardio, and can take a punch, as we've seen from the first two GP fights. The only thing he might be lacking is well-rounded Muay Thai striking, but it may only appear that way because his boxing is so good and he doesn't need anything else (plus the headkick on Hellboy was pretty nice). Eddie’s got to be top 10. For an MMA fighter he has great boxing – especially his footwork and head movement – and his wrestling looks almost as good as someone like Tyson Griffin. He’s very active on the ground, always looking to pass guard or get the dominant position and shows great submission defense/escape. He’s seriously game, has great cardio, and can take a punch, as we’ve seen from the first two GP fights. The only thing he might be lacking is well-rounded Muay Thai striking, but it may only appear that way because his boxing is so good and he doesn’t need anything else (plus the headkick on Hellboy was pretty nice).

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]]> By: bjjdenver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26947 bjjdenver Mon, 12 May 2008 18:49:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26947 Where do you have BJ ranked? I'm sure highly, as would I, but doesn't have a ton of fights at lw recently. Alvarez looked freaking scary against Hellboy, who is very highly ranked in most cases. Sure he has room to improve, but he is definitely a top 10 right now. The rankings aren't of all-time fighters or most experienced, they are usually what have you done for me lately. And he has done enough, imo. #1 NO, but certainly ok with a top 10 ranking right now. Where do you have BJ ranked? I’m sure highly, as would I, but doesn’t have a ton of fights at lw recently.

Alvarez looked freaking scary against Hellboy, who is very highly ranked in most cases. Sure he has room to improve, but he is definitely a top 10 right now.

The rankings aren’t of all-time fighters or most experienced, they are usually what have you done for me lately. And he has done enough, imo.

#1 NO, but certainly ok with a top 10 ranking right now.

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26940 truth Mon, 12 May 2008 18:08:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26940 He's bringing a level of athletics and energy into the ring/cage like GSP. He's main even material. He’s bringing a level of athletics and energy into the ring/cage like GSP. He’s main even material.

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]]> By: mo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-26928 mo Mon, 12 May 2008 17:24:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/12/how-soon-is-too-soon/#comment-26928 it's a good question. his lack of fighting top guys in the weight class has been mostly out of his control, and i think he has shown enough to be in it. Put him in for now, and if something changes take him out next month. at the least you can help get him some notoriety and attn., and i certainly think you have an argument for putting him in there. Compare him to other guys in similar situations, would you consider Mike Bisping in the top 15 MW's? he has looked good there so far, i think same for Eddie and don't feel guilty throwing him in the top 10 it’s a good question. his lack of fighting top guys in the weight class has been mostly out of his control, and i think he has shown enough to be in it. Put him in for now, and if something changes take him out next month. at the least you can help get him some notoriety and attn., and i certainly think you have an argument for putting him in there. Compare him to other guys in similar situations, would you consider Mike Bisping in the top 15 MW’s? he has looked good there so far, i think same for Eddie and don’t feel guilty throwing him in the top 10

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