Comments on: How soon is too soon?

By: yenny

yenny — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:10:06 +0000

Sam,
same thought came to my mind when I saw his fight with Hansen. Since rankings aren’t really a science or often controversial… I’ll say Alvarez could be thrown in any of the currently ranked top 10 fighters and be very competitive if not win

By: Drew

Drew — Tue, 13 May 2008 18:50:05 +0000

1. BJ
2. Gomi
3. Melendez
4. Aoki
5. JZ
6. Sherk
7. Alvarez
8. Hansen
9. (t) Huerta and Florian

By: Kogepan

Kogepan — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:19:44 +0000

Yeh, Alvarez top 5. He just BEAT a top five guy in Hansen.

The TUF guys get too much credit for fighting amongst themselves. I can’t see how guys like steveson gets credit for beating punks like guillard, pellegrino. And Florian is way overrated for beating Lauzon (untested beginner), an injured Din Thomas (out of ufc), alvin robertson (can), washed up mishima.

I’d leave Ishida at the bottom end of the top 10, probably 9 or 10. I mean the guy has fought 3 times since News Years Eve, and he had a big victory over Melendez. I doubt there will be ANY UFC fighters who will fight 3 times all of 2008.

By: TFK

TFK — Tue, 13 May 2008 00:02:43 +0000

Right now Eddie should be Top 5, and when he wins the whole thing, he should be number 1.

TFK

By: Pontus

Pontus — Mon, 12 May 2008 21:03:39 +0000

He shouldn’t be top ten just yet.. beating Dida and then beating Hansen shouldn’t make him top ten.

Hansen is getting alot of hype but if you look at his record he hasn’t performed that
well in his last fights. He’s 4-5 in his last 9 fights with his wins being over worldbeaters like Boku, Miyata, Ireland and Azerado.

In a deep division like the lightweights there ought to be better candidates for the top ten other than Alvarez if he really is top ten we will soon find out instead of rushing him there based on hype.

By: john w

john w — Mon, 12 May 2008 21:02:56 +0000

eddie is a force at 155 he beat a guy that has a wins over jz and gomi and is still only 24 see you in delaware at combat in the cage ps bring me a free tshirt for my expert opinion lol!

By: Zack

Zack — Mon, 12 May 2008 19:40:46 +0000

Eddie’s got to be top 10. For an MMA fighter he has great boxing – especially his footwork and head movement – and his wrestling looks almost as good as someone like Tyson Griffin. He’s very active on the ground, always looking to pass guard or get the dominant position and shows great submission defense/escape. He’s seriously game, has great cardio, and can take a punch, as we’ve seen from the first two GP fights. The only thing he might be lacking is well-rounded Muay Thai striking, but it may only appear that way because his boxing is so good and he doesn’t need anything else (plus the headkick on Hellboy was pretty nice).

By: bjjdenver

bjjdenver — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:49:52 +0000

Where do you have BJ ranked? I’m sure highly, as would I, but doesn’t have a ton of fights at lw recently.

Alvarez looked freaking scary against Hellboy, who is very highly ranked in most cases. Sure he has room to improve, but he is definitely a top 10 right now.

The rankings aren’t of all-time fighters or most experienced, they are usually what have you done for me lately. And he has done enough, imo.

#1 NO, but certainly ok with a top 10 ranking right now.

By: truth

truth — Mon, 12 May 2008 18:08:04 +0000

He’s bringing a level of athletics and energy into the ring/cage like GSP. He’s main even material.

By: mo

mo — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:24:23 +0000

it’s a good question. his lack of fighting top guys in the weight class has been mostly out of his control, and i think he has shown enough to be in it. Put him in for now, and if something changes take him out next month. at the least you can help get him some notoriety and attn., and i certainly think you have an argument for putting him in there. Compare him to other guys in similar situations, would you consider Mike Bisping in the top 15 MW’s? he has looked good there so far, i think same for Eddie and don’t feel guilty throwing him in the top 10

By: johnegorham

johnegorham — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:09:55 +0000

I think Eddie proved he belongs at least ranked at 10th u r going to hear it here kawajiri is no match for Eddie while at 170 Eddie beat some pretty good fighters Arron Riely, Derrick Noble now that he is in the 155 160 weight class he is only getting better and he belongs 10th at the least he will win the Dream you heard it here.

By: michael obstaculo

michael obstaculo — Mon, 12 May 2008 16:43:22 +0000

Eddie at 155-160 is a beast period

By: Anomsdno

Anomsdno — Mon, 12 May 2008 16:25:55 +0000

Just letting your know that you are wrong about DREAM.3.

Also, whoever wins the DREAM LWGP should be ranking #1 in lightweights. Period.

By: Tony Evinger

Tony Evinger — Mon, 12 May 2008 16:17:49 +0000

Who cares how you do your LW rankings since they are so screwed up to begin with. The rankings so heavily favor the whole ex-Pride/Shooto fighters that it is a joke.

Does anyone actually think a guy like Joe Stevenson would have any trouble with at least 7 out of Caplan’s top ten? Stevenson is maybe the third best LW in the UFC, and he would destroy a guy like Ishida with no problem.

I just don’t understand how these guys are continuously ranked in the top ten by numerous sources simply because they only fight each other. If the problem was just with Caplan, I would understand, since his anti-UFC bias is obvious, as he cashes his paychecks from CBS/ProElite, which is trying to compete. But it is much more than just him, and it just seems nobody wants to recognize that the center of the LW division has shifted, and it is no longer as it was in 2005.

By: Fujin

Fujin — Mon, 12 May 2008 15:35:27 +0000

Ishida is too streaky and one dimensional to be in any top 10.

By: paddiosf

paddiosf — Mon, 12 May 2008 15:31:46 +0000

I watched that Alverez/Hansen fight online and he looks good but I have to agree with a previous comment that he needs to win this Dream Tourney to be in the TT LW’s..I still think his ground skills are alittle unproven especially against the Top Ground guys in the game…

By: William W.

William W. — Mon, 12 May 2008 14:48:16 +0000

If Sherdog can have Sherk, Stevenson, and Florian in their top 10, I can’t see any reason why Alvarez shouldn’t be in there. He has beaten two top fighters in his last two bouts. That is more than those three UFC guys have done in the last year combined.

By: davestein

davestein — Mon, 12 May 2008 14:20:03 +0000

With your current ranking of Hansen at 10, you can’t justify keeping him there after a loss, as hard fought as it was. It was a loss, and not a fluke single punch, a slip or freak injury. He was beaten, literally.
If he drops off the top 10, which he must, the guy who knocked him off, has better reason than anyone else to move onto that list.

Ishida belongs there, but drops a bit, and, while you are fiddling around, I think Calvacante drops a bit and Aoki deserves to be moved up.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Mon, 12 May 2008 13:45:06 +0000

Looking at the Lightweight rankings currently on the site, you have Ishida 4th, and Hansen 10th. I think I could easily slot Alvarez into Hansen’s spot at 10. I tend to think if you want to be in the top 10 you have to beat someone in the top 10. Beating Hansen and Dida prior to that should get him in there, especially replacing Hansen. Ishida slips a few spots but I would keep him in the top 10 still.

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 12 May 2008 13:04:23 +0000

My bad it was the affliction card, not the adreneline card. His name popped up on it on the bloodyelbow.com. I will try to post the pic here, if it doesn’t post, the link is below. let me know if you hear anything.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/story/2008/5/10/115414/240