Comments on: The Internet is a TUF crowd… or maybe not http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:25:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: weaksauce http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27816 weaksauce Sun, 18 May 2008 09:21:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27816 MAN I am so disappointed with this season so far. The quality of fighting is HORRIBLE. Last episode - that supposedly good wrestler was just that - a wrestler. He knew nothing else of MMA. All he could do was take downs and throwing - but he had no clue how to finish - which is why he got his ass kicked by a newbie. The second fight was downright a waste of time - 2 guys just flailing wildly. Hands down, telgraphed haymakers - what a joke. TUF cant fight better fighters than this??? MAN I am so disappointed with this season so far. The quality of fighting is HORRIBLE. Last episode - that supposedly good wrestler was just that - a wrestler. He knew nothing else of MMA. All he could do was take downs and throwing - but he had no clue how to finish - which is why he got his ass kicked by a newbie. The second fight was downright a waste of time - 2 guys just flailing wildly. Hands down, telgraphed haymakers - what a joke. TUF cant fight better fighters than this???

]]> By: rob enderle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27653 rob enderle Sat, 17 May 2008 01:50:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27653 I dont want to know the ‘drama’ of the house and seeing the personalities... ESPECIALLY when its nobodies. Just because you have a few familiar UFC faces around, this is still minor, minor league MMA. A few steps below IFL. I want to see again that Alvarez/Hansen fight, I want to see action. My wife wants to see the drama and reality of scripted storylines. That's ok she watches Desperate Housewives, Sex in the CIty and Oprah, but what excuse do Dana White nuthuggers have? Just leave your balls at the door next time ladies. American Idol is coming right up. I find this more insulting that Kimbo. I dont want to know the ‘drama’ of the house and seeing the personalities… ESPECIALLY when its nobodies. Just because you have a few familiar UFC faces around, this is still minor, minor league MMA. A few steps below IFL.

I want to see again that Alvarez/Hansen fight, I want to see action.
My wife wants to see the drama and reality of scripted storylines. That’s ok she watches Desperate Housewives, Sex in the CIty and Oprah, but what excuse do Dana White nuthuggers have?

Just leave your balls at the door next time ladies.
American Idol is coming right up.

I find this more insulting that Kimbo.

]]> By: Glock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27504 Glock Fri, 16 May 2008 02:28:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27504 I've heard a lot of people saying TUF is played and needs somethin new.... I dunno, I'm happy with it and think this may be my favorite season yet. Better fights and more of them. What more do we (fans) need?? Oh yeah, Kimbo that's what we need.... we need Kimbo on the show...... Click, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, plunk....... ;-) I’ve heard a lot of people saying TUF is played and needs somethin new…. I dunno, I’m happy with it and think this may be my favorite season yet. Better fights and more of them. What more do we (fans) need?? Oh yeah, Kimbo that’s what we need…. we need Kimbo on the show…… Click, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, plunk……. ;-)

]]> By: Barry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27503 Barry Fri, 16 May 2008 02:27:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27503 The first few episodes of this season had some great fights, it seems to have tapered off a bit to me. Bottom line here is, if there's some MMA action on TV I'm gonna be watching it. Beats the hell out of American Idol and Survivor. The first few episodes of this season had some great fights, it seems to have tapered off a bit to me. Bottom line here is, if there’s some MMA action on TV I’m gonna be watching it. Beats the hell out of American Idol and Survivor.

]]> By: mo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27468 mo Thu, 15 May 2008 20:02:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27468 Funny stuff. I agree with pieces of #20 and #21, I mean seriously, did anybody think people would be complaining about FREE MMA on TV a couple of years ago. I like how people say TUF needs a break, last time i checked you weren't restrained and forced to watch. Skip the season and rent the DVD's later if you want. As for myself, i can't pull myself away from it still. yes there are things they could do to improve and switch it up a bit, but I'll watch it every week regardless. Of course i also catch Iron Ring once in awhile (couldn't be moer embarrassed to say that) so my need to watch MMA on TV may be greater then others. And i love the people complaining about the fighters, everyone is fighting and making weight, right? And was Forrest vs. Griffin really a technical bout? You have guys with less experience, that is why they are on this show. Funny stuff. I agree with pieces of #20 and #21, I mean seriously, did anybody think people would be complaining about FREE MMA on TV a couple of years ago. I like how people say TUF needs a break, last time i checked you weren’t restrained and forced to watch. Skip the season and rent the DVD’s later if you want. As for myself, i can’t pull myself away from it still. yes there are things they could do to improve and switch it up a bit, but I’ll watch it every week regardless. Of course i also catch Iron Ring once in awhile (couldn’t be moer embarrassed to say that) so my need to watch MMA on TV may be greater then others. And i love the people complaining about the fighters, everyone is fighting and making weight, right? And was Forrest vs. Griffin really a technical bout? You have guys with less experience, that is why they are on this show.

]]> By: roomservicetaco http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27467 roomservicetaco Thu, 15 May 2008 19:51:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27467 I like the "more fights, less drama" version of TUF. But, the quality of fighters has been extremely low. At this point in the show, Matt Brown seems like one of the better fighters and has the intense personality to go with it. Then you realize he's something like 9-6 against regional competition. Watching BJ Penn as a lead-in to very minor league fights is just not fair. Drewplata has a good suggestion - the more training these guys get, the better product they will put on. Perhaps do 10 weeks of taping, with the first 4 strictly having the contestants train, then 6 of fighting. Or, cut the cast to 8 or 12, with 4 wks training, 4 wks tourney fighting. I like the “more fights, less drama” version of TUF. But, the quality of fighters has been extremely low. At this point in the show, Matt Brown seems like one of the better fighters and has the intense personality to go with it. Then you realize he’s something like 9-6 against regional competition. Watching BJ Penn as a lead-in to very minor league fights is just not fair.

Drewplata has a good suggestion - the more training these guys get, the better product they will put on. Perhaps do 10 weeks of taping, with the first 4 strictly having the contestants train, then 6 of fighting. Or, cut the cast to 8 or 12, with 4 wks training, 4 wks tourney fighting.

]]> By: anonymous http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27456 anonymous Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27456 For everyone complaining about the content of the show, or what you do or dont like about it, be it drama or the mansion or background, whatever, think about this> If it wasnt for this show, obviously this discussion wouldnt be happening, and more than likely there wouldnt be many(if any) forums to have this discussion, or any other discussion about mma in general. I watched the ufc personally, up till it fell to pieces, and then was taken off ppv. I gave it up, went on to other things, and with the show was revamped for the sport. Which im sure is the case for most everyone else. Also it brought new ppl in to the sport, and pretty much stamped mma on the face of popular sports today. So what if its not as dynamic as it was since TUF1, as long as its on you'll still watch it. You're free to bitch about it, not arguing that, but i promise you, if its gone you will miss it. For everyone complaining about the content of the show, or what you do or dont like about it, be it drama or the mansion or background, whatever, think about this> If it wasnt for this show, obviously this discussion wouldnt be happening, and more than likely there wouldnt be many(if any) forums to have this discussion, or any other discussion about mma in general. I watched the ufc personally, up till it fell to pieces, and then was taken off ppv. I gave it up, went on to other things, and with the show was revamped for the sport. Which im sure is the case for most everyone else. Also it brought new ppl in to the sport, and pretty much stamped mma on the face of popular sports today. So what if its not as dynamic as it was since TUF1, as long as its on you’ll still watch it. You’re free to bitch about it, not arguing that, but i promise you, if its gone you will miss it.

]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27449 Jackyl Thu, 15 May 2008 17:19:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27449 Funny how we want a little MORE house footage now. When just a few weeks ago everyone was denouncing the so called "MMA Real World". In previous seasons the show has struck a balance between house, training, and fight footage. Who doesn't remember the Mac Danzig mannequin incident, that was great. The house footage gives you an idea of how the fighters are and makes you care a little more about the fights. I must say that this season I am having a hard time connecting with any of these guys. But it's always nice to see who blossoms. Amir seems like a strong prospect in the vein of Corey Hill. Josh Koscheck went from what many considered to be a mediocore fighter to a top contender. Sure the talent pool is thinning, but there are plenty of worthy fighters out there. TUF has become an excellent farm system for the UFC. Maybe a change in format and editing and they can keep it going. Funny how we want a little MORE house footage now. When just a few weeks ago everyone was denouncing the so called “MMA Real World”. In previous seasons the show has struck a balance between house, training, and fight footage. Who doesn’t remember the Mac Danzig mannequin incident, that was great. The house footage gives you an idea of how the fighters are and makes you care a little more about the fights. I must say that this season I am having a hard time connecting with any of these guys. But it’s always nice to see who blossoms. Amir seems like a strong prospect in the vein of Corey Hill. Josh Koscheck went from what many considered to be a mediocore fighter to a top contender. Sure the talent pool is thinning, but there are plenty of worthy fighters out there. TUF has become an excellent farm system for the UFC. Maybe a change in format and editing and they can keep it going.

]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27436 Mike Wolfe Thu, 15 May 2008 16:24:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27436 I enjoy TUF, and don't mind the shift away from hi-jinks in the house. I'd watch it either way, but really, haven't we seen enough drunken adolescents already? As far as this season's critics are concerned, there's some "princess" syndrome at work. "There's not enough fighting and too much filler in the house." "No, now there's too much fighting, and not enough filler in the house." "Dana, buy me a pony! Waa!" I enjoy TUF, and don’t mind the shift away from hi-jinks in the house. I’d watch it either way, but really, haven’t we seen enough drunken adolescents already? As far as this season’s critics are concerned, there’s some “princess” syndrome at work. “There’s not enough fighting and too much filler in the house.” “No, now there’s too much fighting, and not enough filler in the house.” “Dana, buy me a pony! Waa!”

]]> By: "The Ultimate Fighter" Improves…Sort of (Bloody Elbow) http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27431 "The Ultimate Fighter" Improves…Sort of (Bloody Elbow) Thu, 15 May 2008 15:48:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/15/the-internet-is-a-tuf-crowd-or-maybe-not/#comment-27431 [...] Caplan issues a defense of the two most recent episodes of the reality show: I can find little fault with the episodes from [...] [...] Caplan issues a defense of the two most recent episodes of the reality show: I can find little fault with the episodes from [...]

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