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		<title>By: Bic</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-28079</link>
		<dc:creator>Bic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some decent points, the only thing is that I don't think the LHW division is all that easy to decipher. Chuck is a little slower these days while Wandy has less of an arsenal. Jardine shows a lot of potential but he can get caught. With the match making of the LHW division it is a little harder to know who is a number one contender and who isn't. Everyone is beating each other and not really being able to rack up a solid streak of wins all the while Rampage isn't getting challenged. I think Wandy wins this fight but not by KO. Chances are this will be another slug fest but it won't be all that interesting. The exact outcome for either fighter winning isn't set in stone either making this a little less interesting as well.  

On a side note, not very many females view these blogs so using the word rape is not going to drive them away lol. I think someone thinks they are a ladies man ;) lucky number 7 lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some decent points, the only thing is that I don&#8217;t think the LHW division is all that easy to decipher. Chuck is a little slower these days while Wandy has less of an arsenal. Jardine shows a lot of potential but he can get caught. With the match making of the LHW division it is a little harder to know who is a number one contender and who isn&#8217;t. Everyone is beating each other and not really being able to rack up a solid streak of wins all the while Rampage isn&#8217;t getting challenged. I think Wandy wins this fight but not by KO. Chances are this will be another slug fest but it won&#8217;t be all that interesting. The exact outcome for either fighter winning isn&#8217;t set in stone either making this a little less interesting as well.  </p>
<p>On a side note, not very many females view these blogs so using the word rape is not going to drive them away lol. I think someone thinks they are a ladies man <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> lucky number 7 lol</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Evinger</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Evinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, Mike.  

I think it is an excellent argument you make to consider what Joe Silva and the UFC want to happen.  But I don't really like your Diaz/Pellegrino example.  I too, thought Pellegrino was too much for Diaz before the fight.  But don't forget that until Pellegrino slammed Diaz, and then bewilderingly he decided to casually sidle into Diaz's triangle choke, Pellegrino dominated every single second of that fight.  Were it not for the dumbfounding finish, it was easily a 10-8 round for Pellegrino, and he was seconds away from a finish earlier in that round.  I don't know if the slam hurt Pellegrino, or he was disoriented, but whatever happened, it was simply not something that was predictable.  I would bet Pellegrino in a rematch any day, and I really like Diaz.

Hard to imagine Joe Silva had inside knowledge that Pellegrino would inexplicably walk into a waiting triangle choke given his grappling pedigree.  And if Joe Silva did have knowledge of this, then that is a scary thought, and I would stop betting altogether and hope the state athletic commissions would look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, Mike.  </p>
<p>I think it is an excellent argument you make to consider what Joe Silva and the UFC want to happen.  But I don&#8217;t really like your Diaz/Pellegrino example.  I too, thought Pellegrino was too much for Diaz before the fight.  But don&#8217;t forget that until Pellegrino slammed Diaz, and then bewilderingly he decided to casually sidle into Diaz&#8217;s triangle choke, Pellegrino dominated every single second of that fight.  Were it not for the dumbfounding finish, it was easily a 10-8 round for Pellegrino, and he was seconds away from a finish earlier in that round.  I don&#8217;t know if the slam hurt Pellegrino, or he was disoriented, but whatever happened, it was simply not something that was predictable.  I would bet Pellegrino in a rematch any day, and I really like Diaz.</p>
<p>Hard to imagine Joe Silva had inside knowledge that Pellegrino would inexplicably walk into a waiting triangle choke given his grappling pedigree.  And if Joe Silva did have knowledge of this, then that is a scary thought, and I would stop betting altogether and hope the state athletic commissions would look into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Evinger</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27950</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Evinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see your point Mike, but there is another aspect to weight you may have overlooked in this match-up.  I source of mine very close to the UFC (it would not be fair of me to say who, since I don't have their permission, and I'm not going to do what Tito just did to GSP with this guy) has told me that what nobody in the UFC wants to talk about publicly is how small Wanderlei looks these days.  He estimated he has dropped at least 15-20 pounds in his walking-around-weight from his days in Pride.  No longer are Wanderlei's veins and muscles bulging out, ready to burst from his skin.  

I'm not one to throw around accusations at fighters, but draw from that what conclusions you will.  Either way, Wanderlei has gone from a beast to a very under-sized LHW.  I think Jardine will be able to use this significantly to his advantage.  

Now I know you have no reason to believe me on this, or my anonymous "source", since I would usually disregard internet nonsense, as well.  But that is my two cents on the subject, and why I think Jardine will be able to impose his will as the larger, stronger fighter.

Also, remember that Wanderlei has never had the power in his hands that someone like Liddell or Houston Alexander posess.  He is a strong puncher, but a lot of his KO's came virtue of moves that UFC rules do not allow - soccer kicks and foot stomps.  I just don't think he will be testing Jardine's chin quite as much as you think he will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point Mike, but there is another aspect to weight you may have overlooked in this match-up.  I source of mine very close to the UFC (it would not be fair of me to say who, since I don&#8217;t have their permission, and I&#8217;m not going to do what Tito just did to GSP with this guy) has told me that what nobody in the UFC wants to talk about publicly is how small Wanderlei looks these days.  He estimated he has dropped at least 15-20 pounds in his walking-around-weight from his days in Pride.  No longer are Wanderlei&#8217;s veins and muscles bulging out, ready to burst from his skin.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one to throw around accusations at fighters, but draw from that what conclusions you will.  Either way, Wanderlei has gone from a beast to a very under-sized LHW.  I think Jardine will be able to use this significantly to his advantage.  </p>
<p>Now I know you have no reason to believe me on this, or my anonymous &#8220;source&#8221;, since I would usually disregard internet nonsense, as well.  But that is my two cents on the subject, and why I think Jardine will be able to impose his will as the larger, stronger fighter.</p>
<p>Also, remember that Wanderlei has never had the power in his hands that someone like Liddell or Houston Alexander posess.  He is a strong puncher, but a lot of his KO&#8217;s came virtue of moves that UFC rules do not allow - soccer kicks and foot stomps.  I just don&#8217;t think he will be testing Jardine&#8217;s chin quite as much as you think he will.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreThanUFC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27858</link>
		<dc:creator>MoreThanUFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"than you’ll writing will grow up".  Holy LOL.

Well, then cool for you Mike.  I'll keep my eyes open for your picks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;than you’ll writing will grow up&#8221;.  Holy LOL.</p>
<p>Well, then cool for you Mike.  I&#8217;ll keep my eyes open for your picks.</p>
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		<title>By: ultmma</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27850</link>
		<dc:creator>ultmma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 16:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 great logic. If you use the word often than its ok. sarcasm. 

I stand by my statement may be lucky with your bets batting .860 but not where it counts with the ladies if you talk like that. 

great  blog just step up your vocab and than you'll writing will grow up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 great logic. If you use the word often than its ok. sarcasm. </p>
<p>I stand by my statement may be lucky with your bets batting .860 but not where it counts with the ladies if you talk like that. </p>
<p>great  blog just step up your vocab and than you&#8217;ll writing will grow up</p>
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		<title>By: Diego Baeza C.</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27834</link>
		<dc:creator>Diego Baeza C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. I don´t know why you're overlooking Jardine that much. Jardine's chin has absolutely no question marks. The guy can take a punch and doesn't get dazed. I had forgotten the slip mentioned above in the Alexander fight. Jardine is going to come extremely well prepared for this fight. Anyways, we'll see what happens on the 24th.

On the Roy Nelson/Brad Imes fight I have to agree with you. Though I wouldn't take much pride in saying beforehand that Nelson would raope Imes. Who has Imes really beat that would make you think other way? Of course Nelson was going to rape him. On a side note, Ron Cruck (I believe that's his name, the guy from HDNET) calling Nelson top 10 heavyweight is just plain stupid. The toughest fight for Nelson was against Rothwell which he lost (even though I think he should have won) and Rothwell isn't really among the top 10, not just yet. Beating Imes certainly doesn't put you up there either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. I don´t know why you&#8217;re overlooking Jardine that much. Jardine&#8217;s chin has absolutely no question marks. The guy can take a punch and doesn&#8217;t get dazed. I had forgotten the slip mentioned above in the Alexander fight. Jardine is going to come extremely well prepared for this fight. Anyways, we&#8217;ll see what happens on the 24th.</p>
<p>On the Roy Nelson/Brad Imes fight I have to agree with you. Though I wouldn&#8217;t take much pride in saying beforehand that Nelson would raope Imes. Who has Imes really beat that would make you think other way? Of course Nelson was going to rape him. On a side note, Ron Cruck (I believe that&#8217;s his name, the guy from HDNET) calling Nelson top 10 heavyweight is just plain stupid. The toughest fight for Nelson was against Rothwell which he lost (even though I think he should have won) and Rothwell isn&#8217;t really among the top 10, not just yet. Beating Imes certainly doesn&#8217;t put you up there either.</p>
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		<title>By: Echolocating</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27817</link>
		<dc:creator>Echolocating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jardine's got a lot more riding on this fight than Wanderlei. I think Keith Jardine is hungrier. If Jardine losses, he's gotta fight his way back up from near the bottom. But if he wins, I think it would be an injustice to not have him fight for the title.

If Wanderlei wins, he just kind of sits in a position amongst the other light heavyweights where fans expect him to be based on his past success in Pride. However, if he loses, he's going to be encouraged to lose a little bulk and drop down a weight class where he'll pretty much be an immediate contender.

This is Jardine's fight to lose, I feel. Not the other way around. I think one fight people seem to easily forget was the Griffin/Jardine one. Seriously, I don't think you're giving enough credit to Jardine, Michael. We'll see soon enough though. I can hardly wait for this one. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jardine&#8217;s got a lot more riding on this fight than Wanderlei. I think Keith Jardine is hungrier. If Jardine losses, he&#8217;s gotta fight his way back up from near the bottom. But if he wins, I think it would be an injustice to not have him fight for the title.</p>
<p>If Wanderlei wins, he just kind of sits in a position amongst the other light heavyweights where fans expect him to be based on his past success in Pride. However, if he loses, he&#8217;s going to be encouraged to lose a little bulk and drop down a weight class where he&#8217;ll pretty much be an immediate contender.</p>
<p>This is Jardine&#8217;s fight to lose, I feel. Not the other way around. I think one fight people seem to easily forget was the Griffin/Jardine one. Seriously, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re giving enough credit to Jardine, Michael. We&#8217;ll see soon enough though. I can hardly wait for this one. <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Huckaby</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27815</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Huckaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I'll also note that I'm in my mid-twenties and I own my own house in full (though the damn storm last week blew tiles off my roof).  Because of college football betting.  Namely the fact I bet on WAC and Sun Belt football a few years ago as I knew more than Vegas and Boise State is my hero before they became a sweetheart.  Granted watching UL-Monroe vs Troy isn't fun but it makes you money.

Take advantage of MMA, if you read this blog you probably know more about the sport than 99% of other people.  I'm not guaranteeing money or suggesting, just saying if this is your thing you should take advantage of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ll also note that I&#8217;m in my mid-twenties and I own my own house in full (though the damn storm last week blew tiles off my roof).  Because of college football betting.  Namely the fact I bet on WAC and Sun Belt football a few years ago as I knew more than Vegas and Boise State is my hero before they became a sweetheart.  Granted watching UL-Monroe vs Troy isn&#8217;t fun but it makes you money.</p>
<p>Take advantage of MMA, if you read this blog you probably know more about the sport than 99% of other people.  I&#8217;m not guaranteeing money or suggesting, just saying if this is your thing you should take advantage of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Huckaby</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27809</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Huckaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 - Joe Silva seriously is a key people overlook.  The future of the UFC is in his hands and again, he knows more than all of us.  Sure the occasional Kendall Grove gets by him and the rest of us.  But most of the time he makes fights that makes sense for the UFC and most of the time the guy he'd want to win does win.  Just think about the matchups and how it benefits them.  It's great for picking.

#3 - I rarely to never pick anyone at more than -200.  It's not worth it and I'm normally a big upset guy (say when I tipped Jason Day at +300).  I'm outside of BJ Penn, who I'd tip at -210 for a sure win and I've seen as small as -175.  Penn will beat Sherk.  Done and done.

#6 - All of that is valid.  Though you can't say, "well he just didn't take him seriously."  That says something about the fighter.  I can see Jardine beating Wandy, it's possible, I just don't think it will happen based on the matchup.  Jardine's chin is an incredibly big question mark and shouldn't be overlooked considering his opponent.  For the fourth time, matchups are everything.

#7 - Grow up.  I use the word "rape" frequently when I feel someone will destroy someone else.  I can only assume you were raped in prison by large people from a minority group and you're sensitive to the word.   I am sorry for that.  I hope your butt is okay.

#8 - again, fine points.  But I can watch the Jardine/Alexander fight over and over again and each time I will see a guy not taking a guy seriously and getting KTFO.  It's something to be noted that maybe he felt it wasn't a big deal but that should also be noted   Obviously that won't happen vs Wandy and perhaps that's a solid note.  Again, I can see Wandy losing a decision to him.  I however see no way in shit Wandy loses via stoppage in that fight.

#9 - I'm starting an MMA betting site with a rich betting guy I've known for about 6 years in the coming months.  It makes me uncomfortable as I hate putting peoples money on the line but it is what it is.  On the last UFC card I marked my three tips were Clementi +130, Maia -200, and Jason Day +300.  Sure I won't always be perfect (and to be fair I didn't tip Day I just said it was obvious money and the best line as Belcher -400 might be the worst line in the history of gambling).  I've made people thousands of dollars, I just feel weird tipping fights as I feel it personally if that person loses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 - Joe Silva seriously is a key people overlook.  The future of the UFC is in his hands and again, he knows more than all of us.  Sure the occasional Kendall Grove gets by him and the rest of us.  But most of the time he makes fights that makes sense for the UFC and most of the time the guy he&#8217;d want to win does win.  Just think about the matchups and how it benefits them.  It&#8217;s great for picking.</p>
<p>#3 - I rarely to never pick anyone at more than -200.  It&#8217;s not worth it and I&#8217;m normally a big upset guy (say when I tipped Jason Day at +300).  I&#8217;m outside of BJ Penn, who I&#8217;d tip at -210 for a sure win and I&#8217;ve seen as small as -175.  Penn will beat Sherk.  Done and done.</p>
<p>#6 - All of that is valid.  Though you can&#8217;t say, &#8220;well he just didn&#8217;t take him seriously.&#8221;  That says something about the fighter.  I can see Jardine beating Wandy, it&#8217;s possible, I just don&#8217;t think it will happen based on the matchup.  Jardine&#8217;s chin is an incredibly big question mark and shouldn&#8217;t be overlooked considering his opponent.  For the fourth time, matchups are everything.</p>
<p>#7 - Grow up.  I use the word &#8220;rape&#8221; frequently when I feel someone will destroy someone else.  I can only assume you were raped in prison by large people from a minority group and you&#8217;re sensitive to the word.   I am sorry for that.  I hope your butt is okay.</p>
<p>#8 - again, fine points.  But I can watch the Jardine/Alexander fight over and over again and each time I will see a guy not taking a guy seriously and getting KTFO.  It&#8217;s something to be noted that maybe he felt it wasn&#8217;t a big deal but that should also be noted   Obviously that won&#8217;t happen vs Wandy and perhaps that&#8217;s a solid note.  Again, I can see Wandy losing a decision to him.  I however see no way in shit Wandy loses via stoppage in that fight.</p>
<p>#9 - I&#8217;m starting an MMA betting site with a rich betting guy I&#8217;ve known for about 6 years in the coming months.  It makes me uncomfortable as I hate putting peoples money on the line but it is what it is.  On the last UFC card I marked my three tips were Clementi +130, Maia -200, and Jason Day +300.  Sure I won&#8217;t always be perfect (and to be fair I didn&#8217;t tip Day I just said it was obvious money and the best line as Belcher -400 might be the worst line in the history of gambling).  I&#8217;ve made people thousands of dollars, I just feel weird tipping fights as I feel it personally if that person loses.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreThanUFC</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/17/notes-around-the-blogosphere/#comment-27803</link>
		<dc:creator>MoreThanUFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I figure I hit about 86% on MMA fights"
Any proof of this?  A bank statement proving youre a multimillionaire will suffice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I figure I hit about 86% on MMA fights&#8221;<br />
Any proof of this?  A bank statement proving youre a multimillionaire will suffice.</p>
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