Comments on: Tito Ortiz offered UFC contract prior to UFC 84

By: bigman73

bigman73 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:00:46 +0000

[ UFC ] will soon start to diminish cause of other organizations,cause other’s are not afraid to make that big money fight happen,unlike ufc you have to work you way up the ladder in sometimes a requirement but they let it drag on to much,that is where it gets boooooooooooring, perfect example kenny florian should have had a title shot long time ago,there you go shitty fight selections as usual.
Dana White is a son of bitch to work for and an asshole promotor.

By: yarg

yarg — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:34:17 +0000

There is one problem with the gyms being the ones who pay the fighters.

Who will pay the gyms? The fighters are where they get their money.

By: Steve Reese

Steve Reese — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:05:18 +0000

I’m a casual fan, I’ve watched almost all the Ultimate fighter shows and I’ve seen many tapes of other fights. What you cannot help but notice is how the sport has become more refined in style and substance. While being a casual fan I am a professional business man and i can’t help but look at things in that light.
The old champions couldn’t win at the top level of todays competition. The training at very few elite gyms has elevated the game. These gyms and there owners are the silent powerhouses here and also where the fighters loyalty lies. To displace Dana White, the answer is to sell to the gyms at their managment level. In other words, make the gyms wildly profitible. They send you fighters and develop the future fighters (the product) that will follow. The best gyms will pay the highest percentage to the fighters and treat them like the pros they are or they lose them to the other big gyms.
Fighters are happy, money gets spread equitably, and everyone wins. Now even his holiness Dana White must deal with the gyms to get top talent. Seems simple.

By: Gene Simmons

Gene Simmons — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:27:54 +0000

To #19
There are a few big name investors behind the Affliction fight organization. Hint: Did anyone see Trump at UFC 84? When UFC pays fighters like Jardine $10k for a fight, it opens many eyes to the truth of the situation. These guys put their lives on the line and compared to other other sports don’t get paid sh–.
Tito, stand your ground in representing fighters’ rights because people are listening. There will always be many uneducated haters who are simply jealous!

By: HexRei

HexRei — Tue, 27 May 2008 13:29:08 +0000

@#20 : $45 is actually cheap for affliction, I’ve seen some of their shirts at $80+

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:26:53 +0000

To post # 2, if UFC can just “replace” someone with some “just as good” why has there been no one to replace Couture? Im sorry, but if the UFC is banking its hopes on Griffin, Evans, Jardine, or any of the other Ultimate Fighter guys than they are in a sad situation. Liddell is getting up there, and skills (along with mental skills) are deminishing. After 185, the youth talent pool drys up. Brandon Vera is good..but he will have trouble beating a top flight HW, and is a bit big to easily drop to 205. If he did, different story and he’d destroy everything in his path at 205. I just dont see how people can sit back and say ” who cares who leaves, UFC will be fine”. With star after star leaving because they guys get peanuts from the big corporate machine that is UFC, its only a matter of time before more guys leave and the UFC is depleted.

By: Bad Monkey

Bad Monkey — Mon, 26 May 2008 19:07:30 +0000

I don’t know, with Afflictions fucking $45 t-shirts they should be able to afford to pay a bunch of fighters.

I kid, I kid. Either way the card is looking awesome and hopefully Arlovski with end up fighting Rothwell so we can see Big Ben get KTFO’d.

By: Mike Ringer

Mike Ringer — Mon, 26 May 2008 18:50:37 +0000

It’s all great to point at Affliction and say “now there’s an operation that’s paying it’s fighters properly”. The real question is, how long can they pay that way. They had better be careful or by trying too hard to not be like the UFC they could put themselves out of business.

By: Dr. Chewseph

Dr. Chewseph — Mon, 26 May 2008 14:23:58 +0000

actually if tito just cut off his 45 pound head he would be all set…that thing is huge!

By: 124124

124124 — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:05:00 +0000

the end of ufc is coming!!! fuck yall greedy americans!!!

By: Evan

Evan — Mon, 26 May 2008 09:43:38 +0000

“tito could easily sell a show on his own. as big as the ufc name is”

Not a very big one.

By: Trust Doesn't Rust

Trust Doesn't Rust — Mon, 26 May 2008 09:08:17 +0000

tito could easily sell a show on his own. as big as the ufc name is, casual fans definitely look at the headliner first when deciding whether to buy a ppv or watch a card on tv. what the credibility of the ufc name allows is the opportunity to sell casual fans on borderline shows under the assumption that a ufc pay per view card is a big deal, and thus build new stars in the way other promotions can’t. but if the marketing is sound, tito (like kimbo) is enough to get those casual fans to buy/watch a non-ufc show, some of them likely at first mistakenly thinking that it’s a ufc show, especially if it had another big ufc name on the show like arlovski, sylvia, or couture. the one thing these other promotions potentially have on the ufc is the same thing pride had– the aura of being the outsider, that ‘these guys’ are actually better than the ufc fighters. fighting in a ring carries with it an implied openness that a cage doesn’t have (in addition to the natural flexibility offered by ropes as opposed to fencing), and this distinction can create the impression that a promotion is more open and intense than the ufc. all that’s needed is a familiar name like tito to add initial legitimacy and showcase other fighters. and if guys like fedor or even kimbo, who have an obvious look and fighting style distinctive from anybody in the ufc, can be properly showcased annihilating somebody in the unique way that they do, that other promotion can make a good case to a growing fanbase that it is the superior fighting promotion. the goal of any of these up and coming promotions should be to establish the idea that a handful of its fighters are better than anybody on the ufc roster– smaller but better, like HBO is to network tv.

By: mike wolfe

mike wolfe — Mon, 26 May 2008 05:55:00 +0000

If he loses his giant, bone-filled head, which he doesn’t seem to need or use, he could fight in lightweight.

By: E

Mon, 26 May 2008 01:14:19 +0000

thanks #12 for clearing that up

By: THORAZINE

THORAZINE — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:48:13 +0000

Didn’t u know # 7 E,… that a leg weighs more than an arm?.. it’s 1 arm for Tito Ortiz to move to Middleweight and 1 leg for Welterweight… now if he wants to fight at Lightweight its both the arm and leg!

Hope that clear things up..

By: Evan

Evan — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:32:50 +0000

“what the hell is three commas in a row supposed to signify?”

Emphasis on stupidity

By: HexRei

HexRei — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:21:23 +0000

what the hell is three commas in a row supposed to signify?

By: the one

the one — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:18:01 +0000

all you fuckers!!!!
you will see,,, ufc will go down baby!!!!

By: red

red — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:28:18 +0000

bad news for mma..all this is showing is that the world of mma is UFC… common.. everybody else is loosing money too bad.one company for the whole sport… its like the boston celtics is the only company in the NBA or its only top rank promotion in boxing…it wont be a mainstream sport as predicted but its gonna be a WWE thing. big once a month event….too bad

By: E

Sun, 25 May 2008 23:04:56 +0000

Tito move to middleweight?

Geez, I didn’t realize Tito wanted cut off an arm/leg in order to fight.