Comments on: Tito Ortiz offered UFC contract prior to UFC 84 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:45:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bigman73 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-38495 bigman73 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:00:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-38495 [ UFC ] will soon start to diminish cause of other organizations,cause other's are not afraid to make that big money fight happen,unlike ufc you have to work you way up the ladder in sometimes a requirement but they let it drag on to much,that is where it gets boooooooooooring, perfect example kenny florian should have had a title shot long time ago,there you go shitty fight selections as usual. Dana White is a son of bitch to work for and an asshole promotor. [ UFC ] will soon start to diminish cause of other organizations,cause other’s are not afraid to make that big money fight happen,unlike ufc you have to work you way up the ladder in sometimes a requirement but they let it drag on to much,that is where it gets boooooooooooring, perfect example kenny florian should have had a title shot long time ago,there you go shitty fight selections as usual.
Dana White is a son of bitch to work for and an asshole promotor.

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]]> By: yarg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-31100 yarg Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:34:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-31100 There is one problem with the gyms being the ones who pay the fighters. Who will pay the gyms? The fighters are where they get their money. There is one problem with the gyms being the ones who pay the fighters.

Who will pay the gyms? The fighters are where they get their money.

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]]> By: Steve Reese http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-30873 Steve Reese Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:05:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-30873 I'm a casual fan, I've watched almost all the Ultimate fighter shows and I've seen many tapes of other fights. What you cannot help but notice is how the sport has become more refined in style and substance. While being a casual fan I am a professional business man and i can't help but look at things in that light. The old champions couldn't win at the top level of todays competition. The training at very few elite gyms has elevated the game. These gyms and there owners are the silent powerhouses here and also where the fighters loyalty lies. To displace Dana White, the answer is to sell to the gyms at their managment level. In other words, make the gyms wildly profitible. They send you fighters and develop the future fighters (the product) that will follow. The best gyms will pay the highest percentage to the fighters and treat them like the pros they are or they lose them to the other big gyms. Fighters are happy, money gets spread equitably, and everyone wins. Now even his holiness Dana White must deal with the gyms to get top talent. Seems simple. I’m a casual fan, I’ve watched almost all the Ultimate fighter shows and I’ve seen many tapes of other fights. What you cannot help but notice is how the sport has become more refined in style and substance. While being a casual fan I am a professional business man and i can’t help but look at things in that light.
The old champions couldn’t win at the top level of todays competition. The training at very few elite gyms has elevated the game. These gyms and there owners are the silent powerhouses here and also where the fighters loyalty lies. To displace Dana White, the answer is to sell to the gyms at their managment level. In other words, make the gyms wildly profitible. They send you fighters and develop the future fighters (the product) that will follow. The best gyms will pay the highest percentage to the fighters and treat them like the pros they are or they lose them to the other big gyms.
Fighters are happy, money gets spread equitably, and everyone wins. Now even his holiness Dana White must deal with the gyms to get top talent. Seems simple.

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]]> By: Gene Simmons http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-29331 Gene Simmons Thu, 29 May 2008 15:27:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-29331 To #19 There are a few big name investors behind the Affliction fight organization. Hint: Did anyone see Trump at UFC 84? When UFC pays fighters like Jardine $10k for a fight, it opens many eyes to the truth of the situation. These guys put their lives on the line and compared to other other sports don't get paid sh--. Tito, stand your ground in representing fighters' rights because people are listening. There will always be many uneducated haters who are simply jealous! To #19
There are a few big name investors behind the Affliction fight organization. Hint: Did anyone see Trump at UFC 84? When UFC pays fighters like Jardine $10k for a fight, it opens many eyes to the truth of the situation. These guys put their lives on the line and compared to other other sports don’t get paid sh–.
Tito, stand your ground in representing fighters’ rights because people are listening. There will always be many uneducated haters who are simply jealous!

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-29006 HexRei Tue, 27 May 2008 13:29:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-29006 @#20 : $45 is actually cheap for affliction, I've seen some of their shirts at $80+ @#20 : $45 is actually cheap for affliction, I’ve seen some of their shirts at $80+

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]]> By: Scott http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-28924 Scott Mon, 26 May 2008 21:26:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-28924 To post # 2, if UFC can just "replace" someone with some "just as good" why has there been no one to replace Couture? Im sorry, but if the UFC is banking its hopes on Griffin, Evans, Jardine, or any of the other Ultimate Fighter guys than they are in a sad situation. Liddell is getting up there, and skills (along with mental skills) are deminishing. After 185, the youth talent pool drys up. Brandon Vera is good..but he will have trouble beating a top flight HW, and is a bit big to easily drop to 205. If he did, different story and he'd destroy everything in his path at 205. I just dont see how people can sit back and say " who cares who leaves, UFC will be fine". With star after star leaving because they guys get peanuts from the big corporate machine that is UFC, its only a matter of time before more guys leave and the UFC is depleted. To post # 2, if UFC can just “replace” someone with some “just as good” why has there been no one to replace Couture? Im sorry, but if the UFC is banking its hopes on Griffin, Evans, Jardine, or any of the other Ultimate Fighter guys than they are in a sad situation. Liddell is getting up there, and skills (along with mental skills) are deminishing. After 185, the youth talent pool drys up. Brandon Vera is good..but he will have trouble beating a top flight HW, and is a bit big to easily drop to 205. If he did, different story and he’d destroy everything in his path at 205. I just dont see how people can sit back and say ” who cares who leaves, UFC will be fine”. With star after star leaving because they guys get peanuts from the big corporate machine that is UFC, its only a matter of time before more guys leave and the UFC is depleted.

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]]> By: Bad Monkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-28899 Bad Monkey Mon, 26 May 2008 19:07:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-28899 I don't know, with Afflictions fucking $45 t-shirts they should be able to afford to pay a bunch of fighters. I kid, I kid. Either way the card is looking awesome and hopefully Arlovski with end up fighting Rothwell so we can see Big Ben get KTFO'd. I don’t know, with Afflictions fucking $45 t-shirts they should be able to afford to pay a bunch of fighters.

I kid, I kid. Either way the card is looking awesome and hopefully Arlovski with end up fighting Rothwell so we can see Big Ben get KTFO’d.

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]]> By: Mike Ringer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-28893 Mike Ringer Mon, 26 May 2008 18:50:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-28893 It's all great to point at Affliction and say "now there's an operation that's paying it's fighters properly". The real question is, how long can they pay that way. They had better be careful or by trying too hard to not be like the UFC they could put themselves out of business. It’s all great to point at Affliction and say “now there’s an operation that’s paying it’s fighters properly”. The real question is, how long can they pay that way. They had better be careful or by trying too hard to not be like the UFC they could put themselves out of business.

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]]> By: Dr. Chewseph http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-28868 Dr. Chewseph Mon, 26 May 2008 14:23:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-28868 actually if tito just cut off his 45 pound head he would be all set...that thing is huge! actually if tito just cut off his 45 pound head he would be all set…that thing is huge!

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]]> By: 124124 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/comment-page-1/#comment-28865 124124 Mon, 26 May 2008 12:05:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/25/tito-ortiz-offered-ufc-contract-prior-to-ufc-84/#comment-28865 the end of ufc is coming!!! fuck yall greedy americans!!! the end of ufc is coming!!! fuck yall greedy americans!!!

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