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		<title>By: houseminor</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-34424</link>
		<dc:creator>houseminor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joke jhon man you head red green red england busy busy</description>
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		<title>By: JuJutsuMongoose</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30465</link>
		<dc:creator>JuJutsuMongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fighter myself, I just have to say--this show set my sport back a number of months, if not years.  One decent fight all night; stopped by a doctor who is apparently afraid of blood.

The rest was nothing more than a glorified WWF production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fighter myself, I just have to say&#8211;this show set my sport back a number of months, if not years.  One decent fight all night; stopped by a doctor who is apparently afraid of blood.</p>
<p>The rest was nothing more than a glorified WWF production.
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30234</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is on point, the whore dancers reminded me of WCW or the XFL just a joke.

I think people need to remember that this was a free network television broadcast not a 50 dollar pay per view.

They designed a great card with no expected boring defensive struggles.

You can totally tell James Thompson is going to benefit from training with Couture if his ear doesn&#039;t fly off into outer space first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is on point, the whore dancers reminded me of WCW or the XFL just a joke.</p>
<p>I think people need to remember that this was a free network television broadcast not a 50 dollar pay per view.</p>
<p>They designed a great card with no expected boring defensive struggles.</p>
<p>You can totally tell James Thompson is going to benefit from training with Couture if his ear doesn&#8217;t fly off into outer space first.
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		<title>By: Kogepan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30167</link>
		<dc:creator>Kogepan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fault miragliotta.  He stepped in 1-2 punches too soon.  While Kimbo was doing alot of damage with 4-5 punches connecting, JT was not out at the moment  he stepped in.

Of course I felt the same way about GSP/Serra, after GSP sank 2-3 knees into Serra&#039;s midsection.  Of course nobody questions THAT decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fault miragliotta.  He stepped in 1-2 punches too soon.  While Kimbo was doing alot of damage with 4-5 punches connecting, JT was not out at the moment  he stepped in.</p>
<p>Of course I felt the same way about GSP/Serra, after GSP sank 2-3 knees into Serra&#8217;s midsection.  Of course nobody questions THAT decision.
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		<title>By: Jaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You watch MTV. That automatically means you cannot and should not be allowed to give an opinion on what constitutes a &#039;good show&#039;. 

I agree that there were some good fights, but the show itself was horrible. At times I felt like I was watching a combination of bodog and K-1 USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You watch MTV. That automatically means you cannot and should not be allowed to give an opinion on what constitutes a &#8216;good show&#8217;. </p>
<p>I agree that there were some good fights, but the show itself was horrible. At times I felt like I was watching a combination of bodog and K-1 USA.
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		<title>By: S.C</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you said you love that show then you are straight up saying you give 2 shits for the sport of MMA.  Worst crap I have seen in years.  Nothing good came out of last nights show.  Dont tell me it was a success because it wasnt.   And who made Adam Moron an expert.   Everything that comes out of his mouth is bull shit.  Reminds me of Fatty Shaw and the way he&#039;s promoted Kimbo...Shamfull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you said you love that show then you are straight up saying you give 2 shits for the sport of MMA.  Worst crap I have seen in years.  Nothing good came out of last nights show.  Dont tell me it was a success because it wasnt.   And who made Adam Moron an expert.   Everything that comes out of his mouth is bull shit.  Reminds me of Fatty Shaw and the way he&#8217;s promoted Kimbo&#8230;Shamfull.
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		<title>By: joho</title>
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		<dc:creator>joho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not too bad of a show .....for free but some changes should be made ,yeah dancing girls are cool but even the WWE doesnt do that not too classy.
I think the premature stoppages were planned so that it didnt show MMA as &quot;human cockfighting&quot; .they wanted it to look civilized to the new viewers not the hardcore fans..which sucked
Kimbo was gassed ,he should quit smoking weed and they can only keep him afloat only so long.He brings attention to MMA but really is he a good model to represent the sport for prime time tv
I also like the fact that Shamrock went over all the rules for the new viewers that was professional</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too bad of a show &#8230;..for free but some changes should be made ,yeah dancing girls are cool but even the WWE doesnt do that not too classy.<br />
I think the premature stoppages were planned so that it didnt show MMA as &#8220;human cockfighting&#8221; .they wanted it to look civilized to the new viewers not the hardcore fans..which sucked<br />
Kimbo was gassed ,he should quit smoking weed and they can only keep him afloat only so long.He brings attention to MMA but really is he a good model to represent the sport for prime time tv<br />
I also like the fact that Shamrock went over all the rules for the new viewers that was professional
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		<title>By: JOe K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOe K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 34  Brandon  Says:

&quot;Apparently all of the local hockey games I’ve attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion.&quot; 

Kimbo&#039;s from New Jersey?  Also, is the future of the NHL completely on the shoulders of that one Ottawa hockey game because there is a rival Hockey league that is much bigger? 

I think fixed is too strong of a term.  I just know that there was an agenda that they wanted to fulfill.  Whether it was spoken or not, I think it was expected that Carano, and Slice would be the preferred victors of the evening.  Carano and Slice both faced crtitism about being genuine fighters.  They wanted to market there products genuine.  If they both would have lost, a lot of credibility if not all of their credibility would be out the window and there show could be seen as a sideshow or media stunt.  

I&#039;m all for competition with the UFC.  I think the fighers don&#039;t get there fair share with the UFC and thats because they don&#039;t have another place to go.  

Regarding the GSP.  The same probably applied for GSP.  If that fight would have been closer he would have probably been given the nod.  

A better example is Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hammill.  Hammill owned Bisbing but because it was in the UK and Bisping was undefeated they gave him the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 34  Brandon  Says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently all of the local hockey games I’ve attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kimbo&#8217;s from New Jersey?  Also, is the future of the NHL completely on the shoulders of that one Ottawa hockey game because there is a rival Hockey league that is much bigger? </p>
<p>I think fixed is too strong of a term.  I just know that there was an agenda that they wanted to fulfill.  Whether it was spoken or not, I think it was expected that Carano, and Slice would be the preferred victors of the evening.  Carano and Slice both faced crtitism about being genuine fighters.  They wanted to market there products genuine.  If they both would have lost, a lot of credibility if not all of their credibility would be out the window and there show could be seen as a sideshow or media stunt.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for competition with the UFC.  I think the fighers don&#8217;t get there fair share with the UFC and thats because they don&#8217;t have another place to go.  </p>
<p>Regarding the GSP.  The same probably applied for GSP.  If that fight would have been closer he would have probably been given the nod.  </p>
<p>A better example is Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hammill.  Hammill owned Bisbing but because it was in the UK and Bisping was undefeated they gave him the fight.
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.

Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He’s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is? 

At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael Feijao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.</p>
<p>Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He’s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is? </p>
<p>At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael Feijao.
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.

Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo.  He&#039;s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter.  So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still  capitalize on how marketable he is? 

At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.</p>
<p>Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo.  He&#8217;s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter.  So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still  capitalize on how marketable he is? </p>
<p>At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael
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