Comments on: Pros and Cons of EXC on CBS http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: houseminor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-34424 houseminor Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:11:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-34424 joke jhon man you head red green red england busy busy joke jhon man you head red green red england busy busy

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]]> By: JuJutsuMongoose http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30465 JuJutsuMongoose Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:03:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30465 As a fighter myself, I just have to say--this show set my sport back a number of months, if not years. One decent fight all night; stopped by a doctor who is apparently afraid of blood. The rest was nothing more than a glorified WWF production. As a fighter myself, I just have to say–this show set my sport back a number of months, if not years. One decent fight all night; stopped by a doctor who is apparently afraid of blood.

The rest was nothing more than a glorified WWF production.

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]]> By: mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30234 mike Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:55:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30234 Your post is on point, the whore dancers reminded me of WCW or the XFL just a joke. I think people need to remember that this was a free network television broadcast not a 50 dollar pay per view. They designed a great card with no expected boring defensive struggles. You can totally tell James Thompson is going to benefit from training with Couture if his ear doesn't fly off into outer space first. Your post is on point, the whore dancers reminded me of WCW or the XFL just a joke.

I think people need to remember that this was a free network television broadcast not a 50 dollar pay per view.

They designed a great card with no expected boring defensive struggles.

You can totally tell James Thompson is going to benefit from training with Couture if his ear doesn’t fly off into outer space first.

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]]> By: Kogepan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30167 Kogepan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:20:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30167 I fault miragliotta. He stepped in 1-2 punches too soon. While Kimbo was doing alot of damage with 4-5 punches connecting, JT was not out at the moment he stepped in. Of course I felt the same way about GSP/Serra, after GSP sank 2-3 knees into Serra's midsection. Of course nobody questions THAT decision. I fault miragliotta. He stepped in 1-2 punches too soon. While Kimbo was doing alot of damage with 4-5 punches connecting, JT was not out at the moment he stepped in.

Of course I felt the same way about GSP/Serra, after GSP sank 2-3 knees into Serra’s midsection. Of course nobody questions THAT decision.

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]]> By: Jaq http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30112 Jaq Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:32:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30112 You watch MTV. That automatically means you cannot and should not be allowed to give an opinion on what constitutes a 'good show'. I agree that there were some good fights, but the show itself was horrible. At times I felt like I was watching a combination of bodog and K-1 USA. You watch MTV. That automatically means you cannot and should not be allowed to give an opinion on what constitutes a ‘good show’.

I agree that there were some good fights, but the show itself was horrible. At times I felt like I was watching a combination of bodog and K-1 USA.

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]]> By: S.C http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30106 S.C Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:54:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30106 If you said you love that show then you are straight up saying you give 2 shits for the sport of MMA. Worst crap I have seen in years. Nothing good came out of last nights show. Dont tell me it was a success because it wasnt. And who made Adam Moron an expert. Everything that comes out of his mouth is bull shit. Reminds me of Fatty Shaw and the way he's promoted Kimbo...Shamfull. If you said you love that show then you are straight up saying you give 2 shits for the sport of MMA. Worst crap I have seen in years. Nothing good came out of last nights show. Dont tell me it was a success because it wasnt. And who made Adam Moron an expert. Everything that comes out of his mouth is bull shit. Reminds me of Fatty Shaw and the way he’s promoted Kimbo…Shamfull.

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]]> By: joho http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30105 joho Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:50:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30105 Not too bad of a show .....for free but some changes should be made ,yeah dancing girls are cool but even the WWE doesnt do that not too classy. I think the premature stoppages were planned so that it didnt show MMA as "human cockfighting" .they wanted it to look civilized to the new viewers not the hardcore fans..which sucked Kimbo was gassed ,he should quit smoking weed and they can only keep him afloat only so long.He brings attention to MMA but really is he a good model to represent the sport for prime time tv I also like the fact that Shamrock went over all the rules for the new viewers that was professional Not too bad of a show …..for free but some changes should be made ,yeah dancing girls are cool but even the WWE doesnt do that not too classy.
I think the premature stoppages were planned so that it didnt show MMA as “human cockfighting” .they wanted it to look civilized to the new viewers not the hardcore fans..which sucked
Kimbo was gassed ,he should quit smoking weed and they can only keep him afloat only so long.He brings attention to MMA but really is he a good model to represent the sport for prime time tv
I also like the fact that Shamrock went over all the rules for the new viewers that was professional

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30044 JOe K. Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:42:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30044 # 34 Brandon Says: "Apparently all of the local hockey games I’ve attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion." Kimbo's from New Jersey? Also, is the future of the NHL completely on the shoulders of that one Ottawa hockey game because there is a rival Hockey league that is much bigger? I think fixed is too strong of a term. I just know that there was an agenda that they wanted to fulfill. Whether it was spoken or not, I think it was expected that Carano, and Slice would be the preferred victors of the evening. Carano and Slice both faced crtitism about being genuine fighters. They wanted to market there products genuine. If they both would have lost, a lot of credibility if not all of their credibility would be out the window and there show could be seen as a sideshow or media stunt. I'm all for competition with the UFC. I think the fighers don't get there fair share with the UFC and thats because they don't have another place to go. Regarding the GSP. The same probably applied for GSP. If that fight would have been closer he would have probably been given the nod. A better example is Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hammill. Hammill owned Bisbing but because it was in the UK and Bisping was undefeated they gave him the fight. # 34 Brandon Says:

“Apparently all of the local hockey games I’ve attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion.”

Kimbo’s from New Jersey? Also, is the future of the NHL completely on the shoulders of that one Ottawa hockey game because there is a rival Hockey league that is much bigger?

I think fixed is too strong of a term. I just know that there was an agenda that they wanted to fulfill. Whether it was spoken or not, I think it was expected that Carano, and Slice would be the preferred victors of the evening. Carano and Slice both faced crtitism about being genuine fighters. They wanted to market there products genuine. If they both would have lost, a lot of credibility if not all of their credibility would be out the window and there show could be seen as a sideshow or media stunt.

I’m all for competition with the UFC. I think the fighers don’t get there fair share with the UFC and thats because they don’t have another place to go.

Regarding the GSP. The same probably applied for GSP. If that fight would have been closer he would have probably been given the nod.

A better example is Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hammill. Hammill owned Bisbing but because it was in the UK and Bisping was undefeated they gave him the fight.

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]]> By: Chris http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30042 Chris Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:41:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30042 The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights. Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He’s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is? At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael Feijao. The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.

Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He’s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is?

At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael Feijao.

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]]> By: Chris http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30041 Chris Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:40:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30041 The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights. Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He's still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is? At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael The early stoppages definitely hurt the show, but it was still a good night of fights.

Elite is in a tough spot with Kimbo. He’s still a very green prospect, but he is also there most marketable fighter. So how do you continue to bring him along slowly, but still capitalize on how marketable he is?

At this point in his development he probably loses a fight to Brett Rogers, Dave Herman, or Rafael

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]]> By: MMA SKOOL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30028 MMA SKOOL Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:48:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30028 Except for the first fight when the guy was going for a single on the ref after the stoppage, all the other fights were stopped early. This is why MMA doesn't belong on Primetime. Thompson's ear was much grosser than a few extra punches would've been to finish each fight. Except for the first fight when the guy was going for a single on the ref after the stoppage, all the other fights were stopped early. This is why MMA doesn’t belong on Primetime.

Thompson’s ear was much grosser than a few extra punches would’ve been to finish each fight.

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]]> By: brutus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30019 brutus Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:14:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30019 I agree that the dancers are an awful part of the show, but for you to call them whores is just as bad. I agree that the dancers are an awful part of the show, but for you to call them whores is just as bad.

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]]> By: lil4alot http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-30010 lil4alot Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:31:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-30010 Terrible night of fights. If you thought these were good fights, please reconsider if you are a fan of a sport. Terrible night of fights.

If you thought these were good fights, please reconsider if you are a fan of a sport.

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]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29980 ryan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:00:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29980 dancing whores? do you have a problem with NFL and NBA cheerleaders as well? dancing whores? do you have a problem with NFL and NBA cheerleaders as well?

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]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29957 Ronin Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:09:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29957 dancing whores??? Man you must hate women? Got some mother issues.. dancing whores???
Man you must hate women?
Got some mother issues..

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]]> By: Brandon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29951 Brandon Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:52:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29951 Apparently all of the local hockey games I've attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion. I think people are REALLLY stretching it when they say paper signs = fixed fights. For the record when I was in Montreal for the UFC , they had contests and were giving away GSP merchandise... therefore apparently that fight was fixed as well. Apparently all of the local hockey games I’ve attended here in Ottawa are fixed because they always give away free Senators souvenirs (flags and other gear) to help support the home promotion.

I think people are REALLLY stretching it when they say paper signs = fixed fights. For the record when I was in Montreal for the UFC , they had contests and were giving away GSP merchandise… therefore apparently that fight was fixed as well.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29937 JOe K. Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:12:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29937 That is a blatant promotion of one fighter to win over the other. Fixed is too strong of word. A more accurate term would be "slanted in favor of" That is a blatant promotion of one fighter to win over the other. Fixed is too strong of word. A more accurate term would be “slanted in favor of”

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]]> By: Adam Morgan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29936 Adam Morgan Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:10:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29936 So it was fixed because they handed out signs? They handed out signs at the Tank Abbot fight, too. So what? So it was fixed because they handed out signs? They handed out signs at the Tank Abbot fight, too. So what?

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29933 JOe K. Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:08:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29933 For all of you who didn't think the fight was a fix goto www.mmapayout.com and look down at EliteXC coverage to the "I Saw the Sign" article. If thats not slanted I don't know what is. For all of you who didn’t think the fight was a fix goto http://www.mmapayout.com and look down at EliteXC coverage to the “I Saw the Sign” article.

If thats not slanted I don’t know what is.

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]]> By: jeff the drunk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/comment-page-1/#comment-29932 jeff the drunk Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:06:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/05/31/pros-and-cons-of-exc-on-cbs/#comment-29932 other than the bullshit stoppage of the lawler fight the card was about what i expected, not great but pretty damn decent. i was there in the mezzanine sec 101, and before it went live they encouraged everybody to move down as far as we could to fill the lower seats, which was cool for us nosebleeders. the women's fight was probably the best, but if they didn't stop the lawler fight it might have been best of the night. and for all the people complaining, you say it was so horrible but it looks like you watched the whole show anyway. other than the bullshit stoppage of the lawler fight the card was about what i expected, not great but pretty damn decent.
i was there in the mezzanine sec 101, and before it went live they encouraged everybody to move down as far as we could to fill the lower seats, which was cool for us nosebleeders. the women’s fight was probably the best, but if they didn’t stop the lawler fight it might have been best of the night. and for all the people complaining, you say it was so horrible but it looks like you watched the whole show anyway.

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