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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m officially ready for UFC 85</title>
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		<title>By: Kogepan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30980</link>
		<dc:creator>Kogepan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm...after Rogan and Goldberg were practically begging for hughes to retire after 79, I find it laughable that they CHARGING for a PPV featuring this guy as the main event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;after Rogan and Goldberg were practically begging for hughes to retire after 79, I find it laughable that they CHARGING for a PPV featuring this guy as the main event.</p>
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		<title>By: Hardcharger</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30825</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardcharger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if Fitch-Alves isn&#039;t a good fight to judge by because it was almost 2 years ago, then GSP-Hughes 2 isn&#039;t a real good fight to judge by either, because it was also quite a while ago.

I&#039;m sure Alves has improved.  He was a purple belt then, and got destroyed by Fitch (who has improved himself).  It will take a great deal of improvement from Alves to fend off Hughes TDs and the GNP from Hughes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if Fitch-Alves isn&#8217;t a good fight to judge by because it was almost 2 years ago, then GSP-Hughes 2 isn&#8217;t a real good fight to judge by either, because it was also quite a while ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Alves has improved.  He was a purple belt then, and got destroyed by Fitch (who has improved himself).  It will take a great deal of improvement from Alves to fend off Hughes TDs and the GNP from Hughes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30743</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im ranking this fight as a  -&quot;go to the bar and watch for free&quot;-
unlike the last WEC card wich was a &quot;get a 
6 pack,watch live while  tivoing  the fight, and watch again the next day&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im ranking this fight as a  -&#8221;go to the bar and watch for free&#8221;-<br />
unlike the last WEC card wich was a &#8220;get a<br />
6 pack,watch live while  tivoing  the fight, and watch again the next day&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: king mah mah</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30735</link>
		<dc:creator>king mah mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hughes loses to gsp (the champion) and everyone thinks he&#039;s over the hill. BULLSHIT! Look for hughes to submit alves in the 2nd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hughes loses to gsp (the champion) and everyone thinks he&#8217;s over the hill. BULLSHIT! Look for hughes to submit alves in the 2nd.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelthebox</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30733</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaelthebox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitch/Alves isn&#039;t a very good fight to judge by, considering it was almost two years ago.  He&#039;s improved a lot since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitch/Alves isn&#8217;t a very good fight to judge by, considering it was almost two years ago.  He&#8217;s improved a lot since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C.</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s weird that everyone is so down on this card. I am really excited for it. No marquee matchups but a lot of good ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s weird that everyone is so down on this card. I am really excited for it. No marquee matchups but a lot of good ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Hardcharger</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30725</link>
		<dc:creator>Hardcharger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone thinks Hughes looked terrible against Chris Lytle, they didn&#039;t watch the fight. 

Lytle is better off his back than Alves, by far.  Lytle is nearly impossible to finish on the mat, and has very good subs and strength.  Hughes passed his guard, got the crucifix, and beat up Lytle with elbows and gave Lytle a nice gash over his eye.  He didn&#039;t stop Lytle, but he dominated him.

Hughes has just looked bad against GSP.  Alves is no GSP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone thinks Hughes looked terrible against Chris Lytle, they didn&#8217;t watch the fight. </p>
<p>Lytle is better off his back than Alves, by far.  Lytle is nearly impossible to finish on the mat, and has very good subs and strength.  Hughes passed his guard, got the crucifix, and beat up Lytle with elbows and gave Lytle a nice gash over his eye.  He didn&#8217;t stop Lytle, but he dominated him.</p>
<p>Hughes has just looked bad against GSP.  Alves is no GSP.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great card considering the circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great card considering the circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30719</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The jury is definitely out on the Hughes/Alves matchup.  Arguably Hughes has looked pretty terrible in his last three matches against GSP twice (who obviously has his number) and Chris Lytle.  It seems to be pretty obvious that Hughes is interested in going out with a couple of decent wins under his belt (to erase the GSP shellacking and cement his legacy as a HOF welterweight) so he can go on to retire and run his gym full time.  This should provide some pretty serious motivation for him to take the fight seriously and move on to clobber Serra.

While the rest of the fights aren&#039;t exactly going to restructure their respective divisions in terms of fight outcomes the matchups are all pretty compelling.  I don&#039;t see any gross mismatches and the style and talent level all seem to be on a pretty level playing field.  That&#039;ll either provide for some really great tactical battles or boring standoffs where both guys are afraid to commit for fear of getting caught making a mistake.  Looking forward to it either way.  The last month or so has been an awesome time to be a MMA fan with UFC 84, EliteXC, WEC, and now UFC 85 all sandwiched together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The jury is definitely out on the Hughes/Alves matchup.  Arguably Hughes has looked pretty terrible in his last three matches against GSP twice (who obviously has his number) and Chris Lytle.  It seems to be pretty obvious that Hughes is interested in going out with a couple of decent wins under his belt (to erase the GSP shellacking and cement his legacy as a HOF welterweight) so he can go on to retire and run his gym full time.  This should provide some pretty serious motivation for him to take the fight seriously and move on to clobber Serra.</p>
<p>While the rest of the fights aren&#8217;t exactly going to restructure their respective divisions in terms of fight outcomes the matchups are all pretty compelling.  I don&#8217;t see any gross mismatches and the style and talent level all seem to be on a pretty level playing field.  That&#8217;ll either provide for some really great tactical battles or boring standoffs where both guys are afraid to commit for fear of getting caught making a mistake.  Looking forward to it either way.  The last month or so has been an awesome time to be a MMA fan with UFC 84, EliteXC, WEC, and now UFC 85 all sandwiched together.</p>
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		<title>By: JoHn</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30714</link>
		<dc:creator>JoHn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jackson and forrest had, what like a minute of rivalry, and then all of the sudden they were squirting eachother with water guns and shooting nets,,, harmless flirting if you ask me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jackson and forrest had, what like a minute of rivalry, and then all of the sudden they were squirting eachother with water guns and shooting nets,,, harmless flirting if you ask me</p>
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		<title>By: ultmma</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30709</link>
		<dc:creator>ultmma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good card from top to bottom but 45.00 of my hard earned dollar worthy??

 far from it 

about the contrived rivalry /hate....Sam does the UFC know any other way to hype up their PPV

Penn vs. Sherk Ill &quot;we hate each other &quot; Will

Gsp vs. Serra

Lesnar vs. Mir Gsp vs. Hughes etc. etc. 

and Jackson and Forrest suddenly have a bitter rivalry after being on a reality show together lol Please?

Hmm how can GSP and Fitch hate one another to drive up PPV sales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good card from top to bottom but 45.00 of my hard earned dollar worthy??</p>
<p> far from it </p>
<p>about the contrived rivalry /hate&#8230;.Sam does the UFC know any other way to hype up their PPV</p>
<p>Penn vs. Sherk Ill &#8220;we hate each other &#8221; Will</p>
<p>Gsp vs. Serra</p>
<p>Lesnar vs. Mir Gsp vs. Hughes etc. etc. </p>
<p>and Jackson and Forrest suddenly have a bitter rivalry after being on a reality show together lol Please?</p>
<p>Hmm how can GSP and Fitch hate one another to drive up PPV sales?</p>
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		<title>By: Zack</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30708</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going through and picking my fantasy picks for Saturday and realized the same thing bjjdenver - these matchups are all very close and feature elite athletes.  

The only reason the headliner isn&#039;t more exciting is we&#039;ve just seen Hughes look like a fighter that is on the verge of no longer being relevant, a la Kerr, Coleman, Randleman, in the early part of the decade, and now Tito and perhaps Hughes.  Gone are the days when he could bully opponents or out-cardio them. His standup is seriously lacking and the UFC has reached a level where everyone seems to be training cardio at an elite level (Lutter excluded, obviously).  I expect Alves to pound him out on the ground or beat him up over a couple rounds and choke him out.

Vera vs Werdum could be the fight of the night.  You&#039;d think Vera would have a significant advantage standing, but Werdum&#039;s boxing looked sharp against Gonz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going through and picking my fantasy picks for Saturday and realized the same thing bjjdenver &#8211; these matchups are all very close and feature elite athletes.  </p>
<p>The only reason the headliner isn&#8217;t more exciting is we&#8217;ve just seen Hughes look like a fighter that is on the verge of no longer being relevant, a la Kerr, Coleman, Randleman, in the early part of the decade, and now Tito and perhaps Hughes.  Gone are the days when he could bully opponents or out-cardio them. His standup is seriously lacking and the UFC has reached a level where everyone seems to be training cardio at an elite level (Lutter excluded, obviously).  I expect Alves to pound him out on the ground or beat him up over a couple rounds and choke him out.</p>
<p>Vera vs Werdum could be the fight of the night.  You&#8217;d think Vera would have a significant advantage standing, but Werdum&#8217;s boxing looked sharp against Gonz.</p>
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		<title>By: JoHn</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30707</link>
		<dc:creator>JoHn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the thing is fitch has better stand up than hughes, which he used in setting up the take down... hopefully hughes can do the same, but i do think hughes will be the victor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing is fitch has better stand up than hughes, which he used in setting up the take down&#8230; hopefully hughes can do the same, but i do think hughes will be the victor</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30706</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll probably watch it, being a MMA fool and all.  But this card doesn&#039;t compare favorably to the Faber/Pulver WEC card last weekend, and that was free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll probably watch it, being a MMA fool and all.  But this card doesn&#8217;t compare favorably to the Faber/Pulver WEC card last weekend, and that was free.</p>
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		<title>By: paddiosf</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddiosf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not sure if I&#039;m getting this fight..The Countdown show was really good.. I&#039;m more interested in seeing the Marquardt/Thales fight..This card has the potential to be really good or really bad..I&#039;m hoping if I get this fight, they&#039;ll show 9 fights like UFC84, that makes having a few bad fights make you feel like you got your money&#039;s worth..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not sure if I&#8217;m getting this fight..The Countdown show was really good.. I&#8217;m more interested in seeing the Marquardt/Thales fight..This card has the potential to be really good or really bad..I&#8217;m hoping if I get this fight, they&#8217;ll show 9 fights like UFC84, that makes having a few bad fights make you feel like you got your money&#8217;s worth..</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itz gonna be a good card...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itz gonna be a good card&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JTM</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30702</link>
		<dc:creator>JTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cursed card came good.  Much as I love watching the ol&#039; Irish Hand Grenade, and he&#039;s unbeaten in 6 UFC fights, I wish the UFC would bring a few new faces over, that&#039;s all the recent UK shows bar one he&#039;s fought in.    

Asides from my usual hope for a wingding on the undercard that gets shown on the PPV, Werdum-Vera looks like it could be interesting if Vera can handle the jet lag and decides to make it competetive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cursed card came good.  Much as I love watching the ol&#8217; Irish Hand Grenade, and he&#8217;s unbeaten in 6 UFC fights, I wish the UFC would bring a few new faces over, that&#8217;s all the recent UK shows bar one he&#8217;s fought in.    </p>
<p>Asides from my usual hope for a wingding on the undercard that gets shown on the PPV, Werdum-Vera looks like it could be interesting if Vera can handle the jet lag and decides to make it competetive.</p>
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		<title>By: woooburn</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30700</link>
		<dc:creator>woooburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn, i completely forgot the alves/fitch fight. yet another reason i shouldnt try to predict anything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, i completely forgot the alves/fitch fight. yet another reason i shouldnt try to predict anything</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/03/im-officially-ready-for-ufc-85/comment-page-1/#comment-30699</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those countdown shows can really get you. they really suckered me in when they did the countdown for the Babalu vs. Chuck countdown. they gave such a convincing argument for Babalu that i bet money on him, and well we know how the rest of that went. the show definately helps sell the pay per views. and myself, i am looking forward to seeing how Martin Kampmann and Thiago Tavares look. both of these guys, i think, have good potential, and i hope they come out with really good showings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those countdown shows can really get you. they really suckered me in when they did the countdown for the Babalu vs. Chuck countdown. they gave such a convincing argument for Babalu that i bet money on him, and well we know how the rest of that went. the show definately helps sell the pay per views. and myself, i am looking forward to seeing how Martin Kampmann and Thiago Tavares look. both of these guys, i think, have good potential, and i hope they come out with really good showings.</p>
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		<title>By: woooburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>woooburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aaaafffftttteeeerrrnoon delight. 

i&#039;m not the best at making predictions, but i foresee hughes getting defeated. he really underwhelmed me against gsp (though most people look bad in that matchup), while alves has shown nothing but promise. i think thiago will be too fast and too well rounded for him. 

vera/werdum is exciting in the sense that it will probably be one of the fastest paced hw fights in a while, seeing as they&#039;re both on the lower end of the division weight-wise. barring another broken hand slow dance i suppose. wonder what vera&#039;s fate will be if he loses his second straight. i hope they &quot;encourage&quot; him to fight at 205. 

after swick&#039;s last fight, i dont have much interest in watching him anymore. hopefully davis wins and they match him up with alves, or another rising star that&#039;ll really test him. or even karo if he pulls off a quick finish without taking too much punishment. 

and i anticipate a quick finish for bisping. but who they&#039;ll put him up against next is anyone&#039;s guess. maybe leben once his legal issues are resolved? that fight was pretty intriguing when announced. 

i&#039;m looking too far ahead. gotta enjoy the fights at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaaafffftttteeeerrrnoon delight. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m not the best at making predictions, but i foresee hughes getting defeated. he really underwhelmed me against gsp (though most people look bad in that matchup), while alves has shown nothing but promise. i think thiago will be too fast and too well rounded for him. </p>
<p>vera/werdum is exciting in the sense that it will probably be one of the fastest paced hw fights in a while, seeing as they&#8217;re both on the lower end of the division weight-wise. barring another broken hand slow dance i suppose. wonder what vera&#8217;s fate will be if he loses his second straight. i hope they &#8220;encourage&#8221; him to fight at 205. </p>
<p>after swick&#8217;s last fight, i dont have much interest in watching him anymore. hopefully davis wins and they match him up with alves, or another rising star that&#8217;ll really test him. or even karo if he pulls off a quick finish without taking too much punishment. </p>
<p>and i anticipate a quick finish for bisping. but who they&#8217;ll put him up against next is anyone&#8217;s guess. maybe leben once his legal issues are resolved? that fight was pretty intriguing when announced. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m looking too far ahead. gotta enjoy the fights at hand.</p>
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