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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/09/elitexcs-future-plans-at-light-heavyweight-include-title-and-possibly-ortiz/#comment-32145</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, i forgot that eddie was fighting LW only in DREAM.  I would love to see that fight of Daley v. Alvarez, though at WW some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, i forgot that eddie was fighting LW only in DREAM.  I would love to see that fight of Daley v. Alvarez, though at WW some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did add Berry above Shamrock.
Look at the new revised list above.

I have Eddie below Paul because Eddie is only fighting LW right now in DREAM, and I am not sure he is fighting WW anymore. Under LW, I have Alvarez as #1 contender.  Plus, I am not so sure Alvarez can beat Paul Daley, if Paul is really dedicated and wont retire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did add Berry above Shamrock.<br />
Look at the new revised list above.</p>
<p>I have Eddie below Paul because Eddie is only fighting LW right now in DREAM, and I am not sure he is fighting WW anymore. Under LW, I have Alvarez as #1 contender.  Plus, I am not so sure Alvarez can beat Paul Daley, if Paul is really dedicated and wont retire.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph:
I would move Buzz Berry ahead of Ken Shamrock due to his recent win at Cage Rage.  I might move Eddie Alvarez ahead of Paul Daley because of his recent victories compared to Daley's "retirement."  I think the 205's could be shaken up if Cole beats Feijao Sat. night.  Otherwise, I think you did a great job, particularly given the fact that it's so hard sometimes to remember who is signed to EXC and who is signed to Strikeforce.  The rankings would really get interesting if they could be combined, thereby adding in talents like Cung Le and Gilbert Melendez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph:<br />
I would move Buzz Berry ahead of Ken Shamrock due to his recent win at Cage Rage.  I might move Eddie Alvarez ahead of Paul Daley because of his recent victories compared to Daley&#8217;s &#8220;retirement.&#8221;  I think the 205&#8217;s could be shaken up if Cole beats Feijao Sat. night.  Otherwise, I think you did a great job, particularly given the fact that it&#8217;s so hard sometimes to remember who is signed to EXC and who is signed to Strikeforce.  The rankings would really get interesting if they could be combined, thereby adding in talents like Cung Le and Gilbert Melendez.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^

Sam and Matt,

I revised the lists a bit and added Matt Makowski.
Let me know if you have any other opinions about my rankings or if I am missing anyone else.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^</p>
<p>Sam and Matt,</p>
<p>I revised the lists a bit and added Matt Makowski.<br />
Let me know if you have any other opinions about my rankings or if I am missing anyone else.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

Hahaha...I did this by hand and off the top of my head.
Give me a little break here.

These are the CURRENT and FUTURE CHAMPS (IMO), for those that are wondering:

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]HW:[/B][/COLOR] Antonio Silva (Future Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Brett Rogers
2) Ricco Rodriguez
3) Dave "Pee Wee" Herman
4) Kimbo Slice
5) Rob Broughton	
5) Neil Grove
6) Robert "Buzz" Berry
7) Ken Shamrock
8) Ron "H2O" Waterman
9) James "The Colossus" Thompson
10) John Murphy

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]LHW:[/B][/COLOR] Rafael Feijao (Future Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Po'ai Suganuma 
2) Cyrille "Snake" Diabate
3) Wayne Cole
4) Jared Hamman
5) Shane Del Rosario
6) Jaime Fletcher
7) Aaron Rosa
8) John Doyle 
9) Analu Brash

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]MW:[/B][/COLOR] Robbie Lawler (Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Scott "Hands of Steel" Smith
2) Murilo "Ninja" Rua
3) Hector Lombard
4) Joey "Smokin' Joe" Villasenor
5) Frank Shamrock
6) Kala Hose
7) Phil "NY Badass" Baroni
8) Giva "The Arm Collector" Santana
9) Paul Bradley
10) Kyle Noke
11) Seth Kleinbeck

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]WW:[/B][/COLOR] Jake Shields (Future Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Drew Fickett
2) Paul Daley
3) Eddie Alvarez
4) Fabricio Camoes
5) Mark Weir
6) Renato Verissimo
7) Ross "The Boss" Ebanez
8) Matt Makowski
9) Joe Camacho
10) Jae Suk Lim

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]LW:[/B][/COLOR] KJ Noons (Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Eddie Alvarez
2) Yves Edwards
3) Nick Diaz
4) Mushin Corbbrey
5) Edson Berto
6) Mike Aina
7) Victor "Joe Boxer" Valuenzela
8) Charles "Crazy Horse" Bennett
9) Conor Heun
10) Thomas "Wildman" Denny
11) Malaipet

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]FW:[/B][/COLOR] Wilson Reis (Future Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Masakazu Imanari
2) Bao Quach
3) Jean Silva
4) Mark "The Shark" Oshiro
5) Doug Evans
6) Zach Makovsky
7) Robbie Olivier
8) Bobby McMasters
9) Andres Soares
10) Justin Robbins

[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]Womens:[/B][/COLOR] Gina Carano (Future Champ)[/SIZE]

[B]Contenders:[/B] 
1) Shayna Baszler
2) Cris Cyborg
3) Kaitlin Young
4) Debi Purcell
5) Carina Damm
6) Tonya Evinger
7) Julie Kedzie
8) Melanie Lacroix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Hahaha&#8230;I did this by hand and off the top of my head.<br />
Give me a little break here.</p>
<p>These are the CURRENT and FUTURE CHAMPS (IMO), for those that are wondering:</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]HW:[/B][/COLOR] Antonio Silva (Future Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Brett Rogers<br />
2) Ricco Rodriguez<br />
3) Dave &#8220;Pee Wee&#8221; Herman<br />
4) Kimbo Slice<br />
5) Rob Broughton<br />
5) Neil Grove<br />
6) Robert &#8220;Buzz&#8221; Berry<br />
7) Ken Shamrock<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Ron &#8220;H2O&#8221; Waterman<br />
9) James &#8220;The Colossus&#8221; Thompson<br />
10) John Murphy</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]LHW:[/B][/COLOR] Rafael Feijao (Future Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Po&#8217;ai Suganuma<br />
2) Cyrille &#8220;Snake&#8221; Diabate<br />
3) Wayne Cole<br />
4) Jared Hamman<br />
5) Shane Del Rosario<br />
6) Jaime Fletcher<br />
7) Aaron Rosa<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> John Doyle<br />
9) Analu Brash</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]MW:[/B][/COLOR] Robbie Lawler (Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Scott &#8220;Hands of Steel&#8221; Smith<br />
2) Murilo &#8220;Ninja&#8221; Rua<br />
3) Hector Lombard<br />
4) Joey &#8220;Smokin&#8217; Joe&#8221; Villasenor<br />
5) Frank Shamrock<br />
6) Kala Hose<br />
7) Phil &#8220;NY Badass&#8221; Baroni<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Giva &#8220;The Arm Collector&#8221; Santana<br />
9) Paul Bradley<br />
10) Kyle Noke<br />
11) Seth Kleinbeck</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]WW:[/B][/COLOR] Jake Shields (Future Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Drew Fickett<br />
2) Paul Daley<br />
3) Eddie Alvarez<br />
4) Fabricio Camoes<br />
5) Mark Weir<br />
6) Renato Verissimo<br />
7) Ross &#8220;The Boss&#8221; Ebanez<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Matt Makowski<br />
9) Joe Camacho<br />
10) Jae Suk Lim</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]LW:[/B][/COLOR] KJ Noons (Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Eddie Alvarez<br />
2) Yves Edwards<br />
3) Nick Diaz<br />
4) Mushin Corbbrey<br />
5) Edson Berto<br />
6) Mike Aina<br />
7) Victor &#8220;Joe Boxer&#8221; Valuenzela<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Charles &#8220;Crazy Horse&#8221; Bennett<br />
9) Conor Heun<br />
10) Thomas &#8220;Wildman&#8221; Denny<br />
11) Malaipet</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]FW:[/B][/COLOR] Wilson Reis (Future Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Masakazu Imanari<br />
2) Bao Quach<br />
3) Jean Silva<br />
4) Mark &#8220;The Shark&#8221; Oshiro<br />
5) Doug Evans<br />
6) Zach Makovsky<br />
7) Robbie Olivier<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Bobby McMasters<br />
9) Andres Soares<br />
10) Justin Robbins</p>
<p>[SIZE="4"][COLOR="#ff8c00"][B]Womens:[/B][/COLOR] Gina Carano (Future Champ)[/SIZE]</p>
<p>[B]Contenders:[/B]<br />
1) Shayna Baszler<br />
2) Cris Cyborg<br />
3) Kaitlin Young<br />
4) Debi Purcell<br />
5) Carina Damm<br />
6) Tonya Evinger<br />
7) Julie Kedzie<br />
 <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Melanie Lacroix</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

I agree that Makowski is a great prospect, but, his absence aside, don't you think the other rankings are pretty good?  Sure, there are some things we could all debate (Ken Shamrock ranked over Buzz Berry?) but it's not a bad list for a promotion that hasn't been that forthcoming with their rankings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>I agree that Makowski is a great prospect, but, his absence aside, don&#8217;t you think the other rankings are pretty good?  Sure, there are some things we could all debate (Ken Shamrock ranked over Buzz Berry?) but it&#8217;s not a bad list for a promotion that hasn&#8217;t been that forthcoming with their rankings.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any EliteXC welterweight ranking that doesn't have Matt Makowski on it is a faulty list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any EliteXC welterweight ranking that doesn&#8217;t have Matt Makowski on it is a faulty list.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list, everyone loves a list and ranking. I think you are pretty close to right on. If EliteXC was smart they would take this group of up and comers and mix in a few known guys from the UFC and Dream and they would have a legit roster.

They should also bring in the champs and top contenders from their various other holdings like King of the Cage, Cage Rage, etc. 

They are on the right track but they have a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list, everyone loves a list and ranking. I think you are pretty close to right on. If EliteXC was smart they would take this group of up and comers and mix in a few known guys from the UFC and Dream and they would have a legit roster.</p>
<p>They should also bring in the champs and top contenders from their various other holdings like King of the Cage, Cage Rage, etc. </p>
<p>They are on the right track but they have a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph:  

That's the type of lists I was looking for.  Thanks very much.  BTW, how did you come up with your rankings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph:  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the type of lists I was looking for.  Thanks very much.  BTW, how did you come up with your rankings?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, right here:

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/elitexc-champs-future-champs-contenders-list-795224/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, right here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/elitexc-champs-future-champs-contenders-list-795224/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/elitexc-champs-future-champs-contenders-list-795224/</a></p>
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