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		<title>By: Mike Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/11/random-rant-ifl-talking-points/comment-page-1/#comment-32303</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 Man, I&#039;d love to give it a try, but the dang cable company won&#039;t work with me.


#11:  Thanks for the tip, I&#039;ll check into it.  I don&#039;t often check that site, because the decontamination process--pressure wash with harsh chemicals--is time consuming and painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 Man, I&#8217;d love to give it a try, but the dang cable company won&#8217;t work with me.</p>
<p>#11:  Thanks for the tip, I&#8217;ll check into it.  I don&#8217;t often check that site, because the decontamination process&#8211;pressure wash with harsh chemicals&#8211;is time consuming and painful.
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/11/random-rant-ifl-talking-points/comment-page-1/#comment-32280</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mike...there&#039;s a sticky on the sherdog forums you should read about hdnet with comcast. 

As awful as that site is there is some great info on that thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mike&#8230;there&#8217;s a sticky on the sherdog forums you should read about hdnet with comcast. </p>
<p>As awful as that site is there is some great info on that thread.
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		<title>By: bjjdenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjjdenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9, Mike, this is exactly what I&#039;m talking about. So many people have not had the chance to give the IFL a try again. I didn&#039;t care for it, but when they started showing the live cards in HD, I had to give it a shot, and I am happy I did.

I think if they could put their live cards on Saturday on HDNet and replay them Sunday night on FX or Fox Sports or something, it might help.

It just doesn&#039;t matter how good or bad your product is if nobody is aware of it. Unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9, Mike, this is exactly what I&#8217;m talking about. So many people have not had the chance to give the IFL a try again. I didn&#8217;t care for it, but when they started showing the live cards in HD, I had to give it a shot, and I am happy I did.</p>
<p>I think if they could put their live cards on Saturday on HDNet and replay them Sunday night on FX or Fox Sports or something, it might help.</p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t matter how good or bad your product is if nobody is aware of it. Unfortunate.
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		<title>By: mike wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time IFL moved to HDNet, it was already circling the drain. I am a Comcrap customer, and despite my repeated suggestion, it doesn&#039;t carry HDNet.  (Yeah, I know, I&#039;m shocked and outraged the company doesn&#039;t snap to attention when I make suggestions)  I watched it regularly before that, but thought its format was a problem.  The team concept never caught on, and didn&#039;t make much sense.  MMA has always a series of one-on-one contests, so teams don&#039;t resonate.  I didn&#039;t like the ring, either, because of the need for re-starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the time IFL moved to HDNet, it was already circling the drain. I am a Comcrap customer, and despite my repeated suggestion, it doesn&#8217;t carry HDNet.  (Yeah, I know, I&#8217;m shocked and outraged the company doesn&#8217;t snap to attention when I make suggestions)  I watched it regularly before that, but thought its format was a problem.  The team concept never caught on, and didn&#8217;t make much sense.  MMA has always a series of one-on-one contests, so teams don&#8217;t resonate.  I didn&#8217;t like the ring, either, because of the need for re-starts.
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		<title>By: bjjdenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjjdenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TUF 10: Free Agency!!

Seriously, I agree with this article completely. They have a great, clean product and their fighters are starting to make names for themselves. Unfortunately, it may be to late and as I&#039;ve said many times before, there just aren&#039;t enough eyes on their product.

I didn&#039;t really care for the old IFL, but their new format is great. I like their straightforward approach to the sport and always felt this would be the way to sway boxing fans over to mma.

Their 2008 shows have been consistently very good, about the level of the WEC, which most people seem to enjoy. I just think their downfall at this point, is only showing their live cards on HDNet, which is still not widely available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TUF 10: Free Agency!!</p>
<p>Seriously, I agree with this article completely. They have a great, clean product and their fighters are starting to make names for themselves. Unfortunately, it may be to late and as I&#8217;ve said many times before, there just aren&#8217;t enough eyes on their product.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really care for the old IFL, but their new format is great. I like their straightforward approach to the sport and always felt this would be the way to sway boxing fans over to mma.</p>
<p>Their 2008 shows have been consistently very good, about the level of the WEC, which most people seem to enjoy. I just think their downfall at this point, is only showing their live cards on HDNet, which is still not widely available.
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see the WEC absorb the talent and the worthwhile HW of the IFL UFC bound.  I don&#039;t think Jay Heiron could compete with the top WW of the UFC, but in the WEC he could definitely compete.  Same with alot of the IFL talent.  In my opinion, the WEC needs depth at all weightclasses and the IFL could fill those holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the WEC absorb the talent and the worthwhile HW of the IFL UFC bound.  I don&#8217;t think Jay Heiron could compete with the top WW of the UFC, but in the WEC he could definitely compete.  Same with alot of the IFL talent.  In my opinion, the WEC needs depth at all weightclasses and the IFL could fill those holes.
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say one of the biggest mistakes the IFL made was the season two opener promo &quot;SOMEONE LEAVES IN A STRETCHER&quot; or something like that. It really turned me and a lot of other fans off..I didn&#039;t give the show another shot for awhile after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say one of the biggest mistakes the IFL made was the season two opener promo &#8220;SOMEONE LEAVES IN A STRETCHER&#8221; or something like that. It really turned me and a lot of other fans off..I didn&#8217;t give the show another shot for awhile after that.
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		<title>By: Matt C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew makes a good point. When IFL launched there was a buzz about it.  But going head to head with UFC pay-per-views and other major events for the 18-34 audience was suicide.  
I&#039;m in the boat of those saying they enjoyed the quality of the IFL, especially of late.  It&#039;s too bad they didnt hook up with HDNet from the beginning.  Hindsight is 20/20.

If Affliction has any plans to last long term, they need to snag some IFL talent ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew makes a good point. When IFL launched there was a buzz about it.  But going head to head with UFC pay-per-views and other major events for the 18-34 audience was suicide.<br />
I&#8217;m in the boat of those saying they enjoyed the quality of the IFL, especially of late.  It&#8217;s too bad they didnt hook up with HDNet from the beginning.  Hindsight is 20/20.</p>
<p>If Affliction has any plans to last long term, they need to snag some IFL talent ASAP.
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IFL killed itself earlier with their mind boggling event scheduling. Remember the IFL, scheduled an event on the same night as UFC 79 and scheduled an event during the weekend of UFC 81 and the Nascar event in Las Vegas. They could of gained some media attention and expose their product to the widest amount of people as much as possible, but they killed theirselves with choices of dates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IFL killed itself earlier with their mind boggling event scheduling. Remember the IFL, scheduled an event on the same night as UFC 79 and scheduled an event during the weekend of UFC 81 and the Nascar event in Las Vegas. They could of gained some media attention and expose their product to the widest amount of people as much as possible, but they killed theirselves with choices of dates.
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		<title>By: Zack with a ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack with a ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe what Jay says about the MMA landscape, more promotions are going to be dying off.  That said, what the fighters desperately need is a union.  If Tito wants to make his final mark on MMA, he could make it his legacy to be the one that got it started.  He has the charisma and standing in the community, and it would make Chuck eat his words about Tito only caring about himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe what Jay says about the MMA landscape, more promotions are going to be dying off.  That said, what the fighters desperately need is a union.  If Tito wants to make his final mark on MMA, he could make it his legacy to be the one that got it started.  He has the charisma and standing in the community, and it would make Chuck eat his words about Tito only caring about himself.
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