Comments on: EliteXC Weigh-In Results: Diaz over by 9 lbs! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:51:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Beef http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-33151 Beef Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:46:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-33151 I like that % of the purse (including $ for the win and any "bonuses" a ala UFC) for each poung over the limit. It seems like all these peeps just don't want to suffer like Lutter did. He put himself through hell and it took away a lot from him for the fight. These guys figure that, as long as they're going to miss weight, then they might as well forget about the weight cut and focus on the win. That plan worked out great for Alves who also got the KO of the night bonus. At -10% per pound, Alves would have lost 30% (since they would have allowed 171) and Dias would have lost 80% of his purse... Sounds fair to me. I like that % of the purse (including $ for the win and any “bonuses” a ala UFC) for each poung over the limit.

It seems like all these peeps just don’t want to suffer like Lutter did. He put himself through hell and it took away a lot from him for the fight. These guys figure that, as long as they’re going to miss weight, then they might as well forget about the weight cut and focus on the win. That plan worked out great for Alves who also got the KO of the night bonus.

At -10% per pound, Alves would have lost 30% (since they would have allowed 171) and Dias would have lost 80% of his purse… Sounds fair to me.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32888 mike wolfe Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:07:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32888 Fine 'em 10% of their purse for every pound over, and it all goes to the opponent if he makes weight. If both fighters in a match are overweight, the discounts are split between all other fighters on the card who did make weight. Hit somebody hard in the wallet and everybody will learn the lesson. Fine ‘em 10% of their purse for every pound over, and it all goes to the opponent if he makes weight. If both fighters in a match are overweight, the discounts are split between all other fighters on the card who did make weight. Hit somebody hard in the wallet and everybody will learn the lesson.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32884 Patrick Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:10:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32884 9 pounds is completely unacceptable... and everyone thought 4 pounds was bad for Thiago (4 pounds is also unacceptable, don't get me wrong). They made a weight class for him and Gina, and neither of them can make the weight. Seriously, get on the god damn treadmill in the sauna. It's disrespectful to your opponent, organization, training camp, and the fans to not show up at the weight you agreed to show up at. It's common sense that you come prepared the way you said you would be coming prepared. Absolutely ridiculous. 9 pounds is completely unacceptable… and everyone thought 4 pounds was bad for Thiago (4 pounds is also unacceptable, don’t get me wrong).

They made a weight class for him and Gina, and neither of them can make the weight. Seriously, get on the god damn treadmill in the sauna.

It’s disrespectful to your opponent, organization, training camp, and the fans to not show up at the weight you agreed to show up at. It’s common sense that you come prepared the way you said you would be coming prepared.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Rex http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32880 Rex Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:54:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32880 Elite XC continues to be a circus act, its like Shaw doesnt even care if MMA is accepted as a professional sport. Weight classes are used for a reason, fans want to see who the best fighters are in their respective weight classes. I am a huge Diaz fan, but fights like these wont solidify his place in any division. Elite XC needs to enforce the rules in order to help move the sport forward, not take two steps back. Elite XC continues to be a circus act, its like Shaw doesnt even care if MMA is accepted as a professional sport. Weight classes are used for a reason, fans want to see who the best fighters are in their respective weight classes. I am a huge Diaz fan, but fights like these wont solidify his place in any division. Elite XC needs to enforce the rules in order to help move the sport forward, not take two steps back.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Steve http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32868 Steve Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:45:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32868 169? Seriously? How can you possibly weigh in 9 POUNDS OVER? I want to hear from Diaz about this; I could understand 163, even 165, but 169 sounds like he just "fuck it, I'm not cutting at all for this fight." 169?

Seriously?

How can you possibly weigh in 9 POUNDS OVER? I want to hear from Diaz about this; I could understand 163, even 165, but 169 sounds like he just “fuck it, I’m not cutting at all for this fight.”

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: KOB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32867 KOB Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:37:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32867 These organizations need to start making stiffer fines or holding people back for not making weight. Especially since they are trying to market mma as a sport and get mainstream media coverage. It is ridiculous that one fighter spends hours making weight, while another can just ride it easy going into a fight. I could see a pound or 2 but any more than that is just plain stupid. Those fighters should not deserve anything they ask for. Alves should go have fun w/ the middlweights who will destroy him. Diaz is just a joke, this is just another reason why he's no longer fighter he used to be. And I used to be a HUGE Diaz fan. Let's hope his brother is taking notes because Diaz could have been great minus all the distractions. Carano is going to get whatever she wants because she will sell tickets. Shaw doesn't care about extra divisions. More belts = more main events. Look how well it's worked in boxing right? LAME. These organizations need to start making stiffer fines or holding people back for not making weight. Especially since they are trying to market mma as a sport and get mainstream media coverage.

It is ridiculous that one fighter spends hours making weight, while another can just ride it easy going into a fight. I could see a pound or 2 but any more than that is just plain stupid. Those fighters should not deserve anything they ask for.

Alves should go have fun w/ the middlweights who will destroy him. Diaz is just a joke, this is just another reason why he’s no longer fighter he used to be. And I used to be a HUGE Diaz fan. Let’s hope his brother is taking notes because Diaz could have been great minus all the distractions. Carano is going to get whatever she wants because she will sell tickets. Shaw doesn’t care about extra divisions. More belts = more main events. Look how well it’s worked in boxing right? LAME.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Nick Diaz comes in 2 Caranos over weight http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32858 Fightlinker » Blog Archive » Nick Diaz comes in 2 Caranos over weight Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:13:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32858 [...] was Thiago Alves at 4 pounds over. Pretty bad huh? Well not as bad as Nick Diaz, who just came in 9 POUNDS OVER in his 160 pound fight against Muhsin Corbbrey. There’s a bit of confusion over the [...] [...] was Thiago Alves at 4 pounds over. Pretty bad huh? Well not as bad as Nick Diaz, who just came in 9 POUNDS OVER in his 160 pound fight against Muhsin Corbbrey. There’s a bit of confusion over the [...]

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: jball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32844 jball Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:04:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32844 #5 not tryin to hate or talk crap… but i believe the reason or the point of fighters cutting weight is to try to be as big and as strong as you can at your weight class, fighters choose what weight they want to fight at and have the choice to fight at heavier weight… ( mike swick, micheal bisping ) both were successful at heavier weight, just had problems with bigger fighters in there weight class. now that they cut down, they are the bigger fighters… did you see bisping, he looks massive at 185 where he looked small at 205, feel free to tear me apart… ;-) #5 not tryin to hate or talk crap… but i believe the reason or the point of fighters cutting weight is to try to be as big and as strong as you can at your weight class, fighters choose what weight they want to fight at and have the choice to fight at heavier weight… ( mike swick, micheal bisping ) both were successful at heavier weight, just had problems with bigger fighters in there weight class. now that they cut down, they are the bigger fighters… did you see bisping, he looks massive at 185 where he looked small at 205, feel free to tear me apart… ;-)

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32841 Michael Huckaby Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:37:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32841 Yeah, it's clear Carano and Diaz didn't get the memo about their special weight classes. I don't see what's stopping them from upping the weight of their special weight classes again. Yeah, it’s clear Carano and Diaz didn’t get the memo about their special weight classes. I don’t see what’s stopping them from upping the weight of their special weight classes again.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]> By: cyph http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/comment-page-1/#comment-32840 cyph Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:23:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/14/elitexc-weigh-in-results-diaz-over-by-9-lbs/#comment-32840 Wait, let me get this straight. EliteXC made up a 160 lb division just for Nick Diaz, then he's weighs in over by 9 lbs? Dude, why don't you fight in the damn 170 lb division? That's like saying Anderson Silva will fight at catch weight of 200 lbs, so technically he's still the middleweight champ. There are weight divisions for a reason! If you're too big, you don't fight in the lower weight division. If Nick Diaz, a welterweight beats the lightweight, then what does it really matter? It's sham! EliteXC = Shaw = Boxing = Bad for MMA. Wait, let me get this straight. EliteXC made up a 160 lb division just for Nick Diaz, then he’s weighs in over by 9 lbs? Dude, why don’t you fight in the damn 170 lb division? That’s like saying Anderson Silva will fight at catch weight of 200 lbs, so technically he’s still the middleweight champ. There are weight divisions for a reason! If you’re too big, you don’t fight in the lower weight division. If Nick Diaz, a welterweight beats the lightweight, then what does it really matter? It’s sham!

EliteXC = Shaw = Boxing = Bad for MMA.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

]]>