Comments on: 5 Oz. Feature: Jesse Taylor still belongs in TUF 7 middleweight final

By: DamonO

DamonO — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:05:18 +0000

The prior incidents are maybe why Dana made the decision he did. I think he is sending a message out to everyone that he will not tolerate those situations anymore. When it comes down to it, it is bad for business. I believe that anyone who destroys anything from the show should be kicked off the show. I really don’t think it’s funny to see a bunch of guys all wrecking a house. They’re giving intelligent fighters a bad name when they allow these guys to do that crap. It’s not good entertainment. If I wanted to see that kind of show then I would go rent the latest episode of bum fights. That’s all they are is a bunch of drunk dumb asses wreaking havoc on a very nice house that was supplied to them to stay in while they work towards a greater future.

Maybe the UFC wants them to wreck the house because it helps the ratings. Well I am not one who wants to see these guys do that. I would rather watch them do some good and maybe go and serve some food to the homeless.

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By: bjjdenver

bjjdenver — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:05:40 +0000

“CB Dollaway was shown in the video with Jesse Taylor as they walked into a lobby area. If Dana talked about character, then why should CB be given an opportunity to fight. Shouldn’t you be judged by who you associate with? If he’s associating with Jesse that night, didn’t stop him from acting like a fool and didn’t stop him from harassing women why should Dollaway be allowed back into the tournament? What was Dollaway doing as Jesse kicked out the window of the limo? Egging him on? We don’t know cause we weren’t there, but he wasn’t stopping him. If he was trying to stop him, they wouldn’t have strolled into the casino like nothing happened. Dollaway would have pulled him aside and they would have left the area. Dollaway isn’t to blame, but he certainly should not be rewarded. Taylor should still be in the finals and I really think Dana missed the boat on this.”

Absolutely not. You don’t judge someone by who they associate with, which, by the way, was one night on the town after the wrap. If CB had a questionable background, then MAYBE you question him. You said it yourself, we don’t know what happened, so you just want to assume the worst? Maybe CB did tell him to settle down, but if you have been paying attention, JT is a wildman when he drinks and nothing is goint to change that. CB distanced himself from JT when it became apparent that he was in self destruct mode. You need to research this incident a little more and also realize, what they show you is an edited version. We have no idea what else may have happened that night and who was questioned about it at the time. Bottom line, JT was a jackass and as an adult, faces the consequences.

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By: Mikemick

Mikemick — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:23:06 +0000

Remember when Chris Leben got in trouble for breaking a door down in the house in season 1? It seems the show has changed a lot since then. Oh wait, it used to be about fighting, now I remember.

I have no problem with Dana punishing JT. I do have a problem with the inconsistencies that Dana has shown with his punishments. If the line to be crossed was a little more black and white, maybe you wouldn’t have some of these screw-ups.

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By: dohfil

dohfil — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:33:46 +0000

Give JT a break Dana.

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By: DPK

DPK — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:23:39 +0000

They should send him to WEC for a few fights, that way he can still earn his way in, and prove that he is sticking with his AA meetings. I am not against UFC enforcing a public conduct policy, even if this is just a start. It seems to be working for the NFL, when guys act stupid in public they get suspended.

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By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:36:22 +0000

CB Dollaway was shown in the video with Jesse Taylor as they walked into a lobby area. If Dana talked about character, then why should CB be given an opportunity to fight. Shouldn’t you be judged by who you associate with? If he’s associating with Jesse that night, didn’t stop him from acting like a fool and didn’t stop him from harassing women why should Dollaway be allowed back into the tournament? What was Dollaway doing as Jesse kicked out the window of the limo? Egging him on? We don’t know cause we weren’t there, but he wasn’t stopping him. If he was trying to stop him, they wouldn’t have strolled into the casino like nothing happened. Dollaway would have pulled him aside and they would have left the area. Dollaway isn’t to blame, but he certainly should not be rewarded. Taylor should still be in the finals and I really think Dana missed the boat on this.

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By: joe

joe — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:46:32 +0000

#56: “First of all: I have not read any comments so this might or might not have been said already but here I go.”

you dont read anyones comments up to this point and were supposed to read yours like your the voice of reason. funny stuff man. u can atleast browse what we been discussing

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By: saerbarnet

saerbarnet — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:48:50 +0000

First of all: I have not read any comments so this might or might not have been said already but here I go.

Jesse Taylor was in no way known for being a great fighter. And he was certainly not known to be a UFC-fighter when he pulled the stunts he did after the last episode. What you seem to forget in your article is that this did not happen this week. It happened a while back when no one knew who the fuck Jesse Taylor was.
If you ran a company would you like if someone you might hire ran around doing stupid things(while drunk to the boot) screaming that he worked for your company? I don’t think so.
However I see no problem if the UFC decides to bring Jesse Taylor back in to the octagon when he has matured to the point where he doesn’t piss himself or harass women while drunk.
I see the same talent that everyone else does in Jesse Taylor. I also see that he needs to visit a fucking psychiatrist to get a fucking grip of his drinking and acting like a little kid pissing himself and doing stupid shit expecting not to get reprimanded for it.
If it was any other idiot doing these things on youtube instead of Spike TV you would all call him an idiot and expect him to be fired. Just because he’s on a reality show it doesn’t make it more okay.

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By: ManOfSteele

ManOfSteele — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:01:53 +0000

That was the worst articles Sam has written. First JT is not a UFC fighter. Second he carried himself in a manner that is unprofessional and dangerous. Sam don’t start feeling for the idiots. Your articles are better than that.

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By: Tom S.

Tom S. — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:23:21 +0000

Fitting punishment,I heard about this incident here in vegas before the show even aired.After kicking out the window that night he fought two security gaurds in the palace station,then when vegas metro got there he started fighting the first cop on the scene.the ufc just did not release that info for some reason.

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By: JOe K.

JOe K. — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:50:32 +0000

I agree, whether or not JT deserved to get kicked off, I’m glad he did. If I was Dana I would have been looking for any excuse to get him off of the show. It’s his style of fighting that gives the ground game a bad (or boring of which it is totally not) public image. If I wanted to see a Jesse Taylor fight, I would just go to my local highschool and watch 2 fat wrestlers lay on each other. He was the most boring one dimensional fighter.

I thought CB was a little boring as well until that last fight. Now I think CB is a welcomed addition to the UFC roster.

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By: sven

sven — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:54:54 +0000

I really dont care if Jesse deserves to be there or not. I’m just glad he’s gone. He’s jsut too damned boring.

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By: joe

joe — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:16:36 +0000

how dare u dissrespect CB Dalloway! CB Dalloway will kick your fat ass with his hands tied behind his back !

regards,
CB Dalloway

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By: Zack with a ck

Zack with a ck — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:45:25 +0000

Mike – go over to Sherdog and you’ll see tons of people calling CB boring and overrated. I don’t think he was boring, but he was definitely overrated. Jesse would have kept him warm for 15 minutes if they had fought.

I also think Jesse had a pretty active gnp, and was definitely damaging guys. However, if I speak for myself, I have to say I’m over the Tito/Hughes style of fighting – wrestling, strength, and gnp. Thankfully, once you reach the top 10 of any weight class these days it doesn’t cut it anymore.

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By: Mike Wolfe

Mike Wolfe — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:38:02 +0000

I can’t believe people are criticizing Jesse as boring and not CB. Nothing Jesse did on the show, whether in or out of the octagon, was boring. What did CB do in the octagon that was exciting? His fight with Credeur was sloppy striking and lay and pray. (Somebody please tell me why Credeur chose not try a few submissions, for pity’s sake). Same with CB’s first fight with Amir. The only thing CB did outside the octagon that was noteworthy was talk about himself in the third person, and that was annoying, and not even interesting.

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By: bjjdenver

bjjdenver — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:37:06 +0000

Bradley signed with EXC.

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By: joe

joe — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:29:20 +0000

anyone hear if theyre going to bring Bradley back?

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By: Derek B

Derek B — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:19:57 +0000

They should have had CB fight Paul Bradley to see who goes to the finale.

I bet if they didn’t kick Paul Bradley off the show for his outbreak…he would have been one of the fighters to make it to the finale.

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By: bjjdenver

bjjdenver — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:19:20 +0000

Responding to the comments about me questioning JT being boring.

Sure, he isn’t the most exciting, and not my style of fighter, but he was usually very active striking from guard or wherever.

Bradley and Dante basically didn’t strike.

I just didn’t think he was that “boring”, that they would look for a reason to drop him.

And whoever mentioned Sherk, i think he gets a bed rap for being boring. Basically the same story, gets you down and pounds on you.

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By: Davey D

Davey D — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:19:02 +0000

#27 TMAC. That is very, very well put and I feel exactly the same.

In any situation in life. I feel you need to weigh the positives and negatives with what we come across in our life. If the negetives out weigh the postives, then there is no reason to consider going that route.

In Jesse Taylor’s case. Dana had to decide should I keep someone who, on camera, destroys a limo…harasses female patrons at a Casino that is owned by Executives (his closest friend’s BTW) who also own the league JT is dreaming of being a part of…and finally, tells security that he’s a UFC fighter and the whole bit. There are NO positive outcomes resulting of those issue’s at the current moment (then) so Dana did what he had to.

In the end, this is all on Jesse Taylor. He has to change and apparently already has started. This is good. Over time, he’ll be accepted if he can stay sober. In my opinon, he deserves a chance to compete in the UFC at some point in time, just not tomorrow night. He earned it yes, however, simply squandered that chance by acting like like he did.

Dana White and his crew will decide when the time is right, we can only guess that will be. That’s just some things are and that is the way it should be.

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