Comments on: Pros and Cons: TUF 7 Finale http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 01:29:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: chris http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-49506 chris Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:14:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-49506 R.I.P Evan Tanner R.I.P Evan Tanner

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-35196 darkmetal Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:43:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-35196 I don't think anyone can say that the next UFN will feature the "can" Anderson Silva, no? As for calling out Kimbo, this all started happening when Kimbo called out Chuck Liddell, and I think knowing full well that Liddell couldn't fight him outside of the UFC. Heck, anyone could call out the Iceman the same way. However, some of these fighters like Monson CAN fight Kimbo in EliteXC, and it should be interesting if Kimbo will make the same bold statements as he did with Liddell....somehow I doubt it. Poor Tanner, he went from Guida like hair, to shaved head, and now to a Nick Nolte homeless man beard. It seems that his days in the UFC may finally be drawing to an end. I don’t think anyone can say that the next UFN will feature the “can” Anderson Silva, no?

As for calling out Kimbo, this all started happening when Kimbo called out Chuck Liddell, and I think knowing full well that Liddell couldn’t fight him outside of the UFC. Heck, anyone could call out the Iceman the same way. However, some of these fighters like Monson CAN fight Kimbo in EliteXC, and it should be interesting if Kimbo will make the same bold statements as he did with Liddell….somehow I doubt it.

Poor Tanner, he went from Guida like hair, to shaved head, and now to a Nick Nolte homeless man beard. It seems that his days in the UFC may finally be drawing to an end.

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]]> By: Procannonfodder http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34890 Procannonfodder Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:47:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34890 #53 Are you kidding? If Gary Shaw had Tanner, he would be promoted as a legendary mma champion and pioneer and we might never had even heard of Kimbo in that case....hmmmm Damn, I wish Tracksuit had Tanner in EliteXC. #53 Are you kidding? If Gary Shaw had Tanner, he would be promoted as a legendary mma champion and pioneer and we might never had even heard of Kimbo in that case….hmmmm Damn, I wish Tracksuit had Tanner in EliteXC.

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34880 stevefiji Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:27:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34880 A gigantic 'I second that motion' for your PRO to July 19th UFC..... Affliction less Fedor is a whitewash of UFC cast-offs....It's a B- card at best....remove Barnett and its C+. The UFC is smart. What is MMA itself but 'survival of the fittest' and 'by any means necessary'. So why can't managements play the same way? Let's keep it as one belt that really matters. Let Fedor and Barnett step into the Octagon and stop ducking the best for whatever bogus reasons they wanna convey. Penn, Liddell, A Silva, Jackson, and GSP will fight anyone, anywhere, anytime for any price and that's why we love them... and that my friends is why Fedor and the UFC castaway island crew will not sell. Cheers Mates! A gigantic ‘I second that motion’ for your PRO to July 19th UFC…..
Affliction less Fedor is a whitewash of UFC cast-offs….It’s a B- card at best….remove Barnett and its C+. The UFC is smart. What is MMA itself but ‘survival of the fittest’ and ‘by any means necessary’. So why can’t managements play the same way?

Let’s keep it as one belt that really matters. Let Fedor and Barnett step into the Octagon and stop ducking the best for whatever bogus reasons they wanna convey. Penn, Liddell, A Silva, Jackson, and GSP will fight anyone, anywhere, anytime for any price and that’s why we love them… and that my friends is why Fedor and the UFC castaway island crew will not sell. Cheers Mates!

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]]> By: Kogepan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34862 Kogepan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:47:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34862 Last Fight Night sucked hard, and so will UFN14. For all the talk of the UFC cutting fighters etc they are STILL putting on cards with various stiffs and tomato cans. Grove vs Tanner as the main event? That wouldn't have even been on the televised card of the last ELITEXC event for chrissakes. And now they have James 'the Gimp' Irvin in the next main event as cannon fodder for Anderson Silva at 205? WTF. Youtube material at best. Last Fight Night sucked hard, and so will UFN14. For all the talk of the UFC cutting fighters etc they are STILL putting on cards with various stiffs and tomato cans. Grove vs Tanner as the main event? That wouldn’t have even been on the televised card of the last ELITEXC event for chrissakes. And now they have James ‘the Gimp’ Irvin in the next main event as cannon fodder for Anderson Silva at 205? WTF. Youtube material at best.

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34849 Michael Huckaby Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:51:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34849 And Keith Smart and Reggie Miller. You are a saint Vern. And Keith Smart and Reggie Miller. You are a saint Vern.

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]]> By: Vern http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34848 Vern Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:35:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34848 On the 8th day God created Peyton Manning and Bobby Knight. So it was written On the 8th day God created Peyton Manning and Bobby Knight. So it was written

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34845 Michael Huckaby Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:30:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34845 It would be a very different book. It would be a very different book.

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]]> By: Vern http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34844 Vern Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:03:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34844 Huckaby is the best writer ever. I wish he would write the bible. Huckaby is the best writer ever. I wish he would write the bible.

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]]> By: Brandon Sanchez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34824 Brandon Sanchez Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:15:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34824 #35, come on. Writing on the site has not taken a nose dive. You know what articles are going to have a 'serious' tone. You also know in the 'Rantings/Reviews' that most of the guys do, they are voicing their sole opinions, and showing another side of themselves. If you don't agree with their opinions and don't want to hear them, I would suggest not reading these types of articles. #35, come on. Writing on the site has not taken a nose dive. You know what articles are going to have a ‘serious’ tone. You also know in the ‘Rantings/Reviews’ that most of the guys do, they are voicing their sole opinions, and showing another side of themselves. If you don’t agree with their opinions and don’t want to hear them, I would suggest not reading these types of articles.

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34820 screwface Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:52:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34820 fully enjoyed your rant, laughed lots. Comment on tanner and kimbos beard tho. Unfair advantage, its like a shock absorber for your face, if you can knock out a guy with zz top beard, then you def have some knockout hands :) fully enjoyed your rant, laughed lots. Comment on tanner and kimbos beard tho. Unfair advantage, its like a shock absorber for your face, if you can knock out a guy with zz top beard, then you def have some knockout hands :)

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34819 Michael Huckaby Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:36:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34819 Nah there's not. He would. He would. Nah there’s not. He would. He would.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34811 HexRei Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:59:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34811 @#42 I think there's a verb missing from that sentence. @#42 I think there’s a verb missing from that sentence.

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]]> By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34810 Ken Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:43:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34810 p.s. but...the affliction card is so juicy i may have to fly to LA for it. p.s.

but…the affliction card is so juicy i may have to fly to LA for it.

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]]> By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34809 Ken Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:42:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34809 it think ufc counter-programming affliction can only diminish affliction's event. now, whenever affliction is mentioned in the news or promos, they will also mention the UFC card which, by the way, is free. and free is a very good price. when it comes to marketing, "free" is the best word there is. it think ufc counter-programming affliction can only diminish affliction’s event. now, whenever affliction is mentioned in the news or promos, they will also mention the UFC card which, by the way, is free. and free is a very good price. when it comes to marketing, “free” is the best word there is.

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]]> By: sharaab http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34808 sharaab Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:38:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34808 sorry, but monson would kimbo. sorry, but monson would kimbo.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34800 Evan Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:43:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34800 Thanks Bofa, that very interesting!!!! Thanks Bofa, that very interesting!!!!

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]]> By: Bofa Dees http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34792 Bofa Dees Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:03:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34792 #33 I know this because I saw it first hand. Fighters on the upcoming Affliction card were handing out promotion cards for it. Other than these sites I havent heard anything about the fights and they are in 3 weeks. We hear about UFC events months in advance. If they are shooting for the hardcore audience, they will be missing out. #33 I know this because I saw it first hand. Fighters on the upcoming Affliction card were handing out promotion cards for it. Other than these sites I havent heard anything about the fights and they are in 3 weeks. We hear about UFC events months in advance. If they are shooting for the hardcore audience, they will be missing out.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34791 HexRei Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:01:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34791 doding = dodging doding = dodging

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/comment-page-1/#comment-34790 HexRei Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:01:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/06/23/pros-and-cons-tuf-7-finale/#comment-34790 On the last one: "Calling out Kimbo" Fighters do it because they are frustrated at having put in years in the sport but seeing Kimbo get on the cover of ESPN with 2 fights against cans. They call him out in public because the problem is public perception in the first place. They want to change that perception, so they call him out. It's a win win situation for a fighter like Monson because if they are ignored and then Kimbo fights yet another can, it's clear that Shaw and Kimbo are doding yet another tough but affordable competitor, and if they actually get taken up, they get to the show the world that Kimbo is 99% hype. Why shoudn't these fighters call out Kimbo in the media? That's just intelligent marketing and the more it happens the more likely it is that Kimbo and/or Shaw will make a mistake and actually take on someone that is too much for him to handle. And then the house of cards comes tumbling down. On the last one: “Calling out Kimbo” Fighters do it because they are frustrated at having put in years in the sport but seeing Kimbo get on the cover of ESPN with 2 fights against cans. They call him out in public because the problem is public perception in the first place. They want to change that perception, so they call him out.

It’s a win win situation for a fighter like Monson because if they are ignored and then Kimbo fights yet another can, it’s clear that Shaw and Kimbo are doding yet another tough but affordable competitor, and if they actually get taken up, they get to the show the world that Kimbo is 99% hype.

Why shoudn’t these fighters call out Kimbo in the media? That’s just intelligent marketing and the more it happens the more likely it is that Kimbo and/or Shaw will make a mistake and actually take on someone that is too much for him to handle. And then the house of cards comes tumbling down.

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